What is a mega-campaign?

ZinZan · Post by **ZinZan** » Fri Mar 02, 2001 4:04 am

Sorry to ask what seems to be an obvious question, but what is the mega campaign?

I played SPI, II and III, but never online and have never come across this before.

BTW, I've been dying to ask this question but felt foolish as everyone else seemed to know all about it

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mogami · Post by **mogami** » Fri Mar 02, 2001 4:09 am

Hi, I will try to field this one...a mega campaign is where the player takes a core force (assigned by designer at start) and then plays a series of battles with the next battle detirmined by the outcome of the last (and some input from player) The player can upgrade his core units after battles. There are 2 currently in the works one for North Africa 41 the other for Russia 41 (both will have follow ups done at some point to continue war). All the battles are designed scenarios (no computer generated ones)

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ZinZan · Post by **ZinZan** » Fri Mar 02, 2001 4:17 am

ok maybe I'm being stupid but how is this different from campaigns like Wild Bill's U2R? It seems to give different battles depending on results?

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mogami · Post by **mogami** » Fri Mar 02, 2001 4:20 am

I think U2R is a mega campaign.
except there you get points to buy core with and deploy yourself before each battle. In the newer ones the units are already set up (better to make a design that way)
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David Heath · Post by **David Heath** » Fri Mar 02, 2001 5:35 am

Mega Campaigns are special hard coded campaigns for Steel Panthers World At War v5.0 or greater. Mike Wood has programmed special features found nowhere else. These are not linear, and branch into dozens of directions, depending on the victory level achieved by the player and also on choices he makes during play.

They contain documentation in the form of photographs, hand drawn maps, articles and other graphics, which are associated with individual battles within the campaign and can be viewed from within the SPWaW game. The user makes decisions, such as whether to attack now or wait until reinforcements arrive, to attack at night or wait until dawn, to send recon in before the main force and these decisions effect the battle he then plays. Unlike ordinary campaigns in which the player selects a core force, in the Mega Campaign the player is assigned a force to command. Although Mega Campaign uses the SPWaW game for combat resolution, the Mega Campaign itself is a role playing game which allows the player to receive medals, promotions and accolades from higher echelons.

Mega Campaign has been modified to run the product in a seamless fashion. For those of you who have played Mega Campaigns, they have been improved and expanded, and for those of you who have not, you are in for a lot of fun.

mogami · Post by **mogami** » Fri Mar 02, 2001 5:59 am

Hi yeah what he said.....I can't wait to play one.

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ruxius · Post by **ruxius** » Fri Mar 02, 2001 6:02 pm

Originally posted by avid Heath
They contain documentation in the form of photographs, hand drawn maps, articles and other graphics, which are associated with individual battles within the campaign and can be viewed from within the SPWaW game. Unlike ordinary campaigns in which the player selects a core force, in the Mega Campaign the player is assigned a force to command.
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Superbe ! I too was persuated that Mega campaign was a Long campaign designed by MAtrix..now I learn it's much moooore !
Sorry David I would like to ask to you something very important to me...Buying the CD with MegaCampaigns and SPWAW50 will let me able to design my own Mega-campaigns ? I mean is there a way for us to get such a kind of dreamful campaign editor or is this allowed only to Matrix designers ?
I would like to know it before I decide to start my campaign using SPWAW5.0 campaign editor..I am not interested in making money but having a more flexible way to design my campaigns..
I hope you will answer to my question
Regards Frank

Dedas · Post by **Dedas** » Fri Mar 02, 2001 6:07 pm

Is the mega-campaign something similar to the long world war2 camp?

Gallo Rojo · Post by **Gallo Rojo** » Fri Mar 02, 2001 9:38 pm

Originally posted by ruxius:

Buying the CD with MegaCampaigns and SPWAW50

Ups! May be I was out of the Forum for a long time and miss something important...

A CD SPWaW Version 5.0 will be available to be bought?

That’s great news except for... I’m in South America ... SPWaW CD won’t comes to here fast. And this in the case that ever comes ...

Will still possible to download the new version and the mega campaigns, or will be possible to buy them on-line?

Another secondary question...

These mega-incredible-good-campaigns will bee Nor Africa and Russia’41 but... and played from which side?

Thanks to all of you ...

Drake · Post by **Drake** » Fri Mar 02, 2001 9:42 pm

Originally posted by Dedas:
Is the mega-campaign something similar to the long world war2 camp?

Not much so, their is a lot more to the maga campaign and its a lot more historic and on like the long world war 2 campaign you will be fighting in many very will made scenarios and you will face many deffrent types of battles.

Think of it as the best elements of the scenarios, campaigns and long campaign mixed into one great thing.

Paul Vebber · Post by **Paul Vebber** » Fri Mar 02, 2001 10:44 pm

Mega campaigns are major undertakings (we have like a dozen folks working each of the ones in production) with dozens and dozens of scenario options, so no there will not be an option to build your own. It would literealtake a year or more for one person to do one. We intend to start with 2 with more hopefully to follow.

The Mega-campaigns will each be avalable for purchase, with SPWaW 5 (and probaly our other free games too) on the CD too. SPWaW 5 will be available without the Megacampaign scenarios by download (complete and upgrade).

Gallo Rojo · Post by **Gallo Rojo** » Fri Mar 02, 2001 11:32 pm

Originally posted by Paul Vebber:
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The Mega-campaigns will each be avalable for purchase, with SPWaW 5 (and probaly our other free games too) on the CD too. SPWaW 5 will be available without the Megacampaign scenarios by download (complete and upgrade). [/B]

Thanks you Paul!!

Do you know if mega campaign disk will be available to be buy on line? On Matrix Site maybe?

Don · Post by **Don** » Sat Mar 03, 2001 2:35 am

Hi Gallo,

I think you'll be able to order off of this site - if you look at the top of this page you'll see a link for "Ordering". You'll use that, pay by credit card and the CD's will be sent to you. I think.

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Wild Bill · Post by **Wild Bill** » Sat Mar 03, 2001 3:05 am

If I may interject a few thoughts here on the subject of a Mega Campaign...

The Mega Campaign is a campaign, a series of battles, ...but MUCH more.

You will take the role of a commander of a moderately sized battle group. You will take your command through a series of battles, all types of battles, from raids, to defending, to attacking, to retreating, to racing the enemy and many more.

The battles stand out because of the variation of them. You won't get bored.

With each battle comes the opportunity to choose alternate situations. You may want to fight the battle, or you may feel some air support might be a good idea. You may feel the need for more tanks and less infantry.
With Mega Campaign you can choose your fight and your forces before you start the battle.

Your victory (or defeat) level will often determine whether you miss a few battles (which costs you points) or if you will detour into another area and then return to the main battle stream.

Twisting routes through the Mega Campaign will insure that you rarely will be playing the same campaign twice. You may or may not.

You will rarely if ever get kicked out. You might wish you would. Defeats hurt you. Stunning victories will help you. (There won't be many of those, I promise!

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Medals will be given for valorous service.
Articles will be attached outlining the history of the real battle, the why, how and what of the fight.

Your force will grow in experience, though your casualties will mean new green troops will be assigned to replace them.

If the time period calls for it, you will receive upgraded units for your old ones.

A Mark IIIe might become a MarkIIIh, etc.

Your fight might be a small quick play, or you might be part of a larger offensive. You won't know till you get there.

Graphics and maps of the times and areas will further enhance your understanding of the "big picture."

There also exists the possibility of linking whole mega campaigns. For example, my team of 30 is working on North Africa, 1941. At the end of it, you can now be linked to North Africa II, 1942, and then North Africa III, Operation Torch.

The number of battles you fight depend on you. There could be 30 up to 40 in the North Africa Mega Campaign, with all sorts of possibilities.

Each Mega Campaign is combining of role playing with actual historical events. There will be a few hypothetical "what if's" in them but most is based on what really happened.

Now what is being sold is the Mega Campaign. What is being offered as a FREE bonus is the complete updated game, version 5.0, all revised scenarios plus dozens of new ones, probably 170-180 scenarios, and 3 or 4 regular campaigns.

Now THAT my friend is a package, if you enjoy SPWAW that you would not miss, no matter what the cost.

It will represent close to 30,000 man hours of work by some 50 or more individuals working over a period of 18 months.

And we promise we won't gouge your wallet!

I promise you will NEVER again find a bargain like this in the Wargaming genre of play.

So get ready. We are getting close!

Wild Bill

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Matrix Games

ruxius · Post by **ruxius** » Sat Mar 03, 2001 5:37 am

Originally posted by :Paul Vebber
so no there will not be an option to build your own. It would literealtake a year or more for one person to do one

Thanks for your answer Paul...now I understand better which is the problem...(sigh ! you're right it's a real difficult one !)
Ok I humbly go back to Spwaw45 editor..
But I confirm that Mega campaigns (as I can read from WB), are the dimension that SPWAW needed to be complete...(except obviously a 3D graphic engine..) (but I know that everything should be placed in the right time sequence..so I trust in you..)

I will never let Mega-c be lost at any cost !!!
So tell me how can I send that dollars (I changed from a bank ) to you and to which address even if you have still to work at it ...I really would like to earn time since I live very far from you !

P.S. Shall I see the great Ariete Italian division at El Alamein ?

ruxius · Post by **ruxius** » Sat Mar 03, 2001 6:00 am

P.S.2 Hey I forgot to underline that incredible WWWWWWWWWWWBill effort ! You are doing an incredible triplicated wild work to convert all that scenarios to SPWAW50 !!!
Which is the secret to do so much in so a short time ?
That work is very precious as it prevented me from taking a look to all the sceneries included in SPWAW40 and than to update my downloads from Matrix scenarios downloading page...Bravo !

Wild Bill · Post by **Wild Bill** » Sat Mar 03, 2001 10:28 am

Thanks, Ruxius. Like you, I don't want those good scenarios to get lost in the shuffle. A lot of folks put in some hard work on them and they deserve to be preserved. Thanks for saying that. It means a lot...WB

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Matrix Games

Gallo Rojo · Post by **Gallo Rojo** » Sat Mar 03, 2001 8:07 pm

Originally posted by Don:
Hi Gallo,

I think you'll be able to order off of this site - if you look at the top of this page you'll see a link for "Ordering". You'll use that, pay by credit card and the CD's will be sent to you. I think.

Cool Don! This is a great new

Thanks for the answer.

BruceAZ_MatrixForum · Post by **BruceAZ_MatrixForum** » Sun Mar 04, 2001 3:01 am

Wild Bill...

All I can say is wow!

Bruce
Semper Fi

Don Doom · Post by **Don Doom** » Sun Mar 04, 2001 3:40 am

You do not know the haft of it!

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