Greyjoy(J) vs. Obvert(A) - The air war in China- DBB, SLs, PDU OFF

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: princep01

What to do now, indeed??? A very rapid and largely successful blitz thru the DEI/Indian Ocean.

However, it seems you have stopped attending your Chinese language lessons. Will you just try and contain the Chinese while you digest the DEI/Malay/Burmese and Indians? One suspects they can do little offensively for some time to come. Eventually, they will have to be dealt with.

And those pest, the Americans? The paper Tiger will sprout real teeth by late 1942. Whatever will you do to hamper their offensives beginning in the latter half of the year?

decisions, decisions....so many decisions.

My master, the americans aren't showing themselves, just like the craggnomen of the swamps in the Neck...damned frogmen!
I'm basically trying to look for strategic goals rather than sinking ships in this match. No matter how many you sink of theirs, they will Always have more.
if India goes as i want, they will eventually have to give their british cousins an hand sooner or later

[Lowpe]

There is no one to fight in India! Wow! Great work.[&o]

[String]

Aside from securing the approaches to your empire (northern OZ, solomons, perhaps NoPac?) there should be nothing more that you should do. Take the additional time to set your perimiter and dig in. Then, until mid-late 1942 you can use at least a part of your strategic reserve to bash the chinese around.

[GreyJoy]

Yes String, probably time is too short to do anything else.
Northern Oz is still missing and will need to take care of it ASAP

[GreyJoy]

Feb 11, 1942

Nothing much happens.

CarDiv 1, after the raid in northern IO, is now trying to get back...but not less than 10/15 subs are hunting her down!...no attacks today, but we're surrounded by those pesky bastards!... We're between Karachi and Bombay... almost in the middle of nowhere... long trip back will be!

The Ceylon invasion is advancing. Car Div 2 is spotted in its cover position SE of Tricomale...

We keep on advancing in India. Tanks are approaching Dacca and Comilla. A couple of indian Brigades should be imprisoned at Chittagong now that the road to Ledo is closed by paras. Ledo keeps on piling men...won't be easy there.

Lost contact with the American CV (probably Yorktown) near Christmas Island [:@]

Mutsu and Nagato pay another visit at Wenchow, while the first 36 Helens are operating out of Shangai, pounding the damned base and keeping it closed (hopefully).

The 26th ID is leaving Shangai harbour

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

ORIGINAL: castor troy

if your opponent abandons Ledo then don't shock attack across the river but just keep a unit within 2 hexes and the base will auto switch without taking damage. Even an empty base takes damage if you shock attack into it and the 70 oil/ref there is a nice catch for the Empire. If he leaves it lightly garissoned, just bomb them to death, it's a clear hex.

Ledo is jungle terrain, and he's already massing there at least 8 units. Possibly some Chinese too. Won't be that easy to conquer... I will need to shock attack there I'm afraid...

hmm, do we have a different map? [&:]

edit: ah, nvm, silly me. I mixed up Ledo with another base

[ny59giants]

CarDiv 1, after the raid in northern IO, is now trying to get back...but not less than 10/15 subs are hunting her down!...no attacks today, but we're surrounded by those pesky bastards!... We're between Karachi and Bombay... almost in the middle of nowhere... long trip back will be!

When Mr Kane landed at Diamond Harbor with KB in support, he placed all his Vals and Kates on ASW patrols. I lost over 6 subs to that many planes. [:(] So, if you don't think CarDiv1 is going to find any shipping, then try to kill his subs.

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

CarDiv 1, after the raid in northern IO, is now trying to get back...but not less than 10/15 subs are hunting her down!...no attacks today, but we're surrounded by those pesky bastards!... We're between Karachi and Bombay... almost in the middle of nowhere... long trip back will be!

When Mr Kane landed at Diamond Harbor with KB in support, he placed all his Vals and Kates on ASW patrols. I lost over 6 subs to that many planes. [:(] So, if you don't think CarDiv1 is going to find any shipping, then try to kill his subs.

Already doing that...not many hits so far tough

[GreyJoy]

Feb 12-13, 1942

INDIA: we are advancing to Madras. Recon confirms: only 3 units present. Less than 10,000 men [X(].
The Ceylon invasion force is 2 days from landing. So far nothing big to report. Kaga and Akagi are supporting the operation with CVL Zuiho and 4 BBs
CarDiv 1 keeps on dancing against what seem to be a 20 subs group! very risky here...sweating
The 55th ID proceeds to advance north, while the 33 and the 2nd are moving to Ledo now.

Java: the 16th Army is now closing on Batavia. Tomorrow will begin the preparation bombings.

China: we ambushed a couple of bombing missions in Central China. 22 Blenheims and Lisander shot down for no loss [:D]
The BBs paid another visit to Wenchow.

Luzon: more bombers are transferred here from Malaya. So far the AVG seems to have moved away. Spotted at least 50 fighters in China and 30 more at Ledo.

PACIFIC: We keep on chasing down the Yorktown north of Christmas Island...without success so far but we track her down every day. More subs are gathering...let's hope for a lucky hit

[MrKane]

My setup was:
Val - 30% asw, 30% search alt 10k with range 4
Kate - 60% asw, 20% search alt 1k with range 5

However I did not know it works so well until now

[Zubnik]

Don't know what these troops where doing on ships. They didn't come from Aden, nor from CT (i have placed 2 CL+3DDs TFs next to the approaches, with subs all around them and the KB right in the middle... those troops must have been loaded at Karachi...but in front of the KB?!?!?! pretty strange!

Good Afternoon,

I just re-joined the forum and have enjoyed watching your game!

I have been playing against the AI since game release, but never played against another player.

Don't you think that "camping" the map entry hexes is a bit rude?

Also, just for my education, how did you get your para units to India so fast?

TY

Max

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: MrGrooves

Don't know what these troops where doing on ships. They didn't come from Aden, nor from CT (i have placed 2 CL+3DDs TFs next to the approaches, with subs all around them and the KB right in the middle... those troops must have been loaded at Karachi...but in front of the KB?!?!?! pretty strange!

Good Afternoon,

I just re-joined the forum and have enjoyed watching your game!

I have been playing against the AI since game release, but never played against another player.

Don't you think that "camping" the map entry hexes is a bit rude?

Also, just for my education, how did you get your para units to India so fast?

TY

Max

Hi - the way the entry hex works is that it is actually an entry 'band' of hexes. The Allied player can control where a TF enters the map by setting its destination hex. So if you have a TF at Cape Town that you want to send to Bombay, you can actually set the destination for some place down by Australia and it will enter on a line with that destination hex. This flexibility greatly mitigates the concept of camping out at entry hexes.

I realize that I have not directly answered your question, but I think that understanding this mechanical issue has a great bearing on the matter.

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: MrGrooves

Don't know what these troops where doing on ships. They didn't come from Aden, nor from CT (i have placed 2 CL+3DDs TFs next to the approaches, with subs all around them and the KB right in the middle... those troops must have been loaded at Karachi...but in front of the KB?!?!?! pretty strange!

Good Afternoon,

I just re-joined the forum and have enjoyed watching your game!

I have been playing against the AI since game release, but never played against another player.

Don't you think that "camping" the map entry hexes is a bit rude?

Also, just for my education, how did you get your para units to India so fast?

TY

Max

Welcome aboard Max!

Glad you're enjoying our match!

Don't think i've camped the inbound hexes. My 2 SCTFs used (1 CL + 3 DDs each) arrived with the KB. They splitted from the main Group when the KB reached Scoodra, then patrolled those hexes for two turns and then moved back when Tanaka sunk those two liners full of troops. Basically they were part of the same KB's operation.

Moreover, what witps said is very true. Now you can enter the map wherever you want


The paras?The real question would be how did i get them to Malaya so fast!
The third day the first Para Group was in Thailand ready to be paradropped in Malaya.
If i am not mistaken the first 2 units start at Kagi (Formosa). I used planes to transfer it to Taiwan first and then to Thailand, while the other Group was immediately loaded on fast transport TF and moved to the front. Then They arrived in India with the main body of the 25th Army

[GreyJoy]

Feb 14, 1942

Comilla is taken by tanks. Dacca is automatically occupied. The march towards Ledo continues.
The 55th ID is approaching Patna in central India.
The march towards Madras continues too.
the 25th Army invasion TF is in position: Tomorrow we will land at Tricomalee. Let's hope his CD guns don't perform too well!

In the Pacific, there is another CV which is escorting the Yorktown! One of my Glen was shot down by CAP!... more subs are gathering there (we're now between Line Islands and PH), while every day one gets damaged by the HUGE ASW assets he has (at least 5 ASW TFs, plus a CVTF providing air ASW)

Batavia is well defended. 400 AVs there. We will need 3 divisions. Imperial, 4th and 56th are closing on the city. In one week we should be able to attack.

Till now, not a single sip of fuel has been conquered in India...[8|][8|][8|][:o] that little HI i've managed to captured intact isn't working[:(]

[Encircled]

I'd like to know how he has managed that.

He must be stockpiling it in Bombay and Karachi, but I'd still expect you to grab a bit as you advance

[ny59giants]

Colombo holds a fair amount of fuel at start. You should get a good amount there.

[Zubnik]

Don't know what these troops where doing on ships. They didn't come from Aden, nor from CT (i have placed 2 CL+3DDs TFs next to the approaches, with subs all around them and the KB right in the middle... those troops must have been loaded at Karachi...but in front of the KB?!?!?! pretty strange!

The paras?The real question would be how did i get them to Malaya so fast!
The third day the first Para Group was in Thailand ready to be paradropped in Malaya.
If i am not mistaken the first 2 units start at Kagi (Formosa). I used planes to transfer it to Taiwan first and then to Thailand, while the other Group was immediately loaded on fast transport TF and moved to the front. Then They arrived in India with the main body of the 25th Army
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Thank You - I hope to learn a lot from this experience!!!!

Max

[CaptBeefheart]

Hello GJ: Well done on your subcontinental adventures. I'm curious as to why you are attacking Trincomalee directly. I'm sure you have excellent reasons, but I would have thought hitting one of those smaller bases on the north or south end would be safer.

Cheers,
CC

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

Hello GJ: Well done on your subcontinental adventures. I'm curious as to why you are attacking Trincomalee directly. I'm sure you have excellent reasons, but I would have thought hitting one of those smaller bases on the north or south end would be safer.

Cheers,
CC

I can think of one, big, immediate advantage: instant access to a large port and airfield. The north and south ends of the island are backwaters.

If I ever invade Ceylon, I'll probably choose Colombo as my entry point. The terrain is better for the attacker (Trincomalee is jungle, right?) and it denies my opponent access to the facilities there. Plus it effectively cuts off the rest of the island.

If you bring enough, it doesn't matter where you land. Japan has that luxury for a limited amount of time.

[Mike McCreery]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Colombo holds a fair amount of fuel at start. You should get a good amount there.

When I played against NJP I moved the fuel to the mainland so when he took Ceylon he got about 6K ;]