Screenshot comparison 1.9.5.0 vs 1.9.5.1

[Locarnus]

Needs to be optional.
Preferable in options, if necessary in game (like info panel) or settings file.
I have a low dpi monitor for a reason, it worked well with the game i bought,
and making this unoptional is unacceptable for users who select their hardware based on their preferred scaling.

Its not like I can increase my dpi in any reasonable way, shape or form.
Otherwise I start writing like this in the forum, isnt pretty...

Sorry, but I cant imagine how this was released unoptional.

[Darkspire]

ORIGINAL: Locarnus

Needs to be optional.
Preferable in options, if necessary in game (like info panel) or settings file.
I have a low dpi monitor for a reason, it worked well with the game i bought,
and making this unoptional is unacceptable for users who select their hardware based on their preferred scaling.

Its not like I can increase my dpi in any reasonable way, shape or form.
Otherwise I start writing like this in the forum, isnt pretty...

Sorry, but I cant imagine how this was released unoptional.

+100

A simple check box in options, 'Increase Font Size' would have been a better idea and would have shown that you care for all the customers, these put up or shut up updates really do not go down that well.

Darkspire

[OzoneGrif_slith]

You should say what you prefered about the small font instead of complaining about the new font.

What is it then, it had more lines displayed? The visible text was longer?
Maybe they can continue improving it.

Try to think further than just your habits.

[Hawawaa]

omg thank you! Many will be thankful for this. [&o]

[Darkspire]

ORIGINAL: OzoneGrif

You should say what you prefered about the small font instead of complaining about the new font.

What is it then, it had more lines displayed? The visible text was longer?
Maybe they can continue improving it.

Try to think further than just your habits.

If I had made any comment about the old font then your argument would be valid. I did not.

I am merely stating that that it would have been better for those of us who are not blessed with a larger monitor or were fine with the font as it was to have the option to choose whether or not to enable the new font size increase.

Try to think further than just your habits.

What is that supposed to mean?

Darkspire

[nedcorleone1]

ORIGINAL: OzoneGrif

You should say what you prefered about the small font instead of complaining about the new font.

What is it then, it had more lines displayed? The visible text was longer?
Maybe they can continue improving it.

Try to think further than just your habits.

How about this... You give me a list of reasons why you think the new font size shouldn't be optional.

Edited for clarity.

[Wizaerd]

Any screenshot comparisons of the box in the left hand side of the screen?

[badken]

ORIGINAL: Wizaerd

Any screenshot comparisons of the box in the left hand side of the screen?

I don't think it changed.

[Spidey]

So the moment the damn fonts are readable for those of us who aren't good at reading 2mm tall letters from 18 inches away (yes, I literally measured using a ruler), we have a new wave of people complaining that the font is too big? Come on. Tell me which is a bigger problem, that fonts are so big you could read them from even further away or that fonts are so small that a good chunk of people literally can't read the damn things without wiping their noses in their monitors?

Sure, making it optional would be nice but I'd definitely prefer they err on the side of usability and functionality rather than on style.

And yeah, it's really funny that some of you people can joke about a handicap other people have. That's absolutely amazing behavior, isn't it? You truly should feel proud about that.

[pycco]

ORIGINAL: Spidey


And yeah, it's really funny that some of you people can joke about a handicap other people have. That's absolutely amazing behavior, isn't it? You truly should feel proud about that.

i know right, i says so much about the persons in question, sad really

[nedcorleone1]

ORIGINAL: Spidey

So the moment the damn fonts are readable for those of us who aren't good at reading 2mm tall letters from 18 inches away (yes, I literally measured using a ruler), we have a new wave of people complaining that the font is too big? Come on. Tell me which is a bigger problem, that fonts are so big you could read them from even further away or that fonts are so small that a good chunk of people literally can't read the damn things without wiping their noses in their monitors?

Sure, making it optional would be nice but I'd definitely prefer they err on the side of usability and functionality rather than on style.

And yeah, it's really funny that some of you people can joke about a handicap other people have. That's absolutely amazing behavior, isn't it? You truly should feel proud about that.

Nobody is asking for a feature rollbacks as evident by every corresponding post in this thread. Those of us who liked the font size the way it was are merely asking for an option. I don't see a problem with that.

Also...

You should say what you prefered about the large font instead of complaining about the old font.

What is it then, it had less lines displayed? The visible text was smaller?
Maybe they can continue improving it.

Try to think further than just your habits.

The above seems sort of silly no? Maybe even slightly rude?

[Spidey]

There's requesting politely an optional toggle between the new and the old font and there's demanding (!!) to not have to give up two lines in the news ticker box in order to let those with worse eyesight play the game without getting a headache from constant squinting. Which would you say has been used so far in this topic, Flappypants?

And do you think your response wasn't the tiniest bit rude? That "made font size large enough for you to read." bit isn't you having a go at everyone who can't see a relatively tiny and gnarly font with poor contrast? Yeah, I know, you just wanted to hit back at a comment that looked a bit arrogant, but was it necessary to make fun of anyone who had a hard time with the old font?

[DPimentel]

This is only a beta patch. Maybe the developers will add the option to the final version of the patch assuming people stay civil about it.

[Shark7]

As one of the people who weren't having problems with the font pre-fix, all I can say is it should be optional. For me, the new font size is over-powering. I like it a bit smaller. Though I agree that for folks with worse eye sight than mine, the option for bigger fonts is a must.

[Draakon]

Agreed, I also prefer the smaller font. So please, can we have a tick-able box to turn it on and off?

[Osito]

Speaking as someone who has been moaning about the readability of the text ever since I bought this game, I do see why people who had no problems with the font might have preferred the old system, particularly with regard to the message box, where the number of messages displayed is lower. Personally, I'd rather have the readability, but I see the point.

Just to be clear, for those who are making this point, presumably your main gripe is with the message area, rather than any of the other areas?

ORIGINAL: Wizaerd

Any screenshot comparisons of the box in the left hand side of the screen?

I didn't notice any change to the left hand side: the menu down the left hand side is still a bit difficult, for me at least, but I appreciate the efforts that have been made in other areas. Also, I didn't bother trying to show the bottom left box, since this was in effect fixed by the 'enlarge' button.

Finally, one point I would make on the diplomacy screen is that the race names are still pretty difficult to make out, but some of them are clear (eg Terran Federation and Ackdarian republic.). I wonder whether this could be fixed by an adjustment of the way this is coloured, rather than a size change.

Osito

[Rahal]

From the screenshots it looks like we're only losing 1 message line out of 5 (20%). It's not as big a change as it looks except in legibility.

[Darkspire]

Finally, one point I would make on the diplomacy screen is that the race names are still pretty difficult to make out, but some of them are clear (eg Terran Federation and Ackdarian republic.). I wonder whether this could be fixed by an adjustment of the way this is coloured, rather than a size change.

The diplomacy screen mid game is not difficult but not easy to read with the smaller font, as you have pointed out it is the color. The other problem though is the general formatting of the text, trying to read it with the smaller font when a race has advanced a fair amount leads to clipping lines all over, the larger font will only make that worse.

Regards the message box, it is more the case that even with the smaller font there was clipping of lines, now the clipping is much more noticeable and leads to constantly having to go into the messages screen to read the full info of a message, with the small font I hardly ever had to go into that screen.

I am more than happy that the small font issue is being addressed again, it did put a lot of folk off and if it means more folks joining in on all the fun I will quite happily give it a thumbs up.

All I ask though is that it be made optional, I feel like I am playing a console port every time I look at the message box.

Darkspire

[morelyn]

Add another vote for the _option_ to retain the old text size, but it's not a huge deal for me.

[nedcorleone1]

ORIGINAL: Spidey

There's requesting politely an optional toggle between the new and the old font and there's demanding

You really think the way we've voiced our desire for an 'option' is bad? The font was finally 'dealt with' after an overwhelming number of demands were made with a level of 'whine and entitlement' that would make your jaw hit the floor. Take a few minutes to peruse those then come back here and remind me again about how 'impolite' our requests have actually been.