Game randomly scrolls the map

[Retreat1970]

Very sad to report the 1952 patch did not fix this. I had hopes. Looking forward to 1953 Same behavior. 1.2gb dw.exe mem usage and auto scroll top left.

[Raap]

Does adding the LAA flag to the game executable(and possible distantworldres.exe) fix the issue?

[infiniteboat]

ORIGINAL: Raap

Does adding the LAA flag to the game executable(and possible distantworldres.exe) fix the issue?

Hi Raap, could you please explain what this is and/or how to do it? I would love to try it but I'm not quite sure how to implement it. Is it in the steam launch options? Do I need a dash? Etc...

Thanks.

[Raap]

I've no idea if it'll make any difference mind you, so just take this as a random suggestion. You can find a utility to change the flag here: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threa ... re.112556/

From what I can tell here, distantworlds.exe has LAA activated already. In that case you could try to disabling it to see if it makes any difference.

[Retreat1970]

Thx for the idea Raap but it's still a no go

[elliotg]

ORIGINAL: Retreat1970
Very sad to report the 1952 patch did not fix this. I had hopes. Looking forward to 1953 Same behavior. 1.2gb dw.exe mem usage and auto scroll top left.

Thanks for the feedback.

We've made additional changes in the final version of 1.9.5.2 that attempts to resolve this issue.

So give that a try when it comes out.

Thanks
Elliot

[Retreat1970]

Thanks Elliot looking forward to trying it

[Chocoma]

Alas, still no luck. Soon?

[Retreat1970]

Chocoma is correct. Same behavior as before.

[Erik Rutins]

Hi guys,

A few follow-up questions:

1. If you are running the minimum size galaxy, does this issue ever happen to you?
2. What kind of video card do you have and how much memory does it have?
3. If you edit the startup.ini to run DW in windowed mode, does this issue still happen?

Regards,

- Erik

[Retreat1970]

Hi Erik,

1. Smallest I've run was 700. In any game it all seems to center around dw.exe hitting 1.2gb memory usage in task manager. Smaller games takes longer for this to happen but it eventually happens (Vista x64).

2. GTX 660Ti 2GB

3. Did not know I could do this. I will try ASAP.

Thanks

Edit: Different behavior in windowed mode. When 1.2GB dw.exe is reached the game does not auto scroll to the top left. However when using the mouse wheel to zoom in it wants to zoom in to the top left no matter where your mouse curser is located. Zooming out is normal. Holding the right mouse button down and moving the map does not work when this is happening. Also when clicking on screen buttons lines appear like you are drawing out a selection box (hold left mouse button and drag mouse, you know). The top left corner of said selection box is centered on the button you are clicking.

Hope that helps somewhat.

[7thcircle]

1. Haven't tried.
2. ATI Radeon HD 4870 1GB
3. It slightly changed how the cursor was broken. When the error occurred in windowed mode, it did not scroll, however zooming in acts like the cursor is in the top left corner and zooms in on that location.

(Edited because what I first wrote wasn't correct) Everything else about the cursor was the same as full screen. Clicking on the main view registers as clicking in the top left corner. Menus work correctly. I can click on menus and icons such as the navigation tool, selection panel, action buttons, summary screen, and any other parts of the interface that aren't part of the main view with no issues. When I click on a planet or ship, zoom in, or right click to give orders it acts like the cursor is on the top left corner instead of where it appears.

I'm new to the thread, but I'm in the same boat as everyone else. Vista64, scrolls to the top-left when memory usage is high, and saving the game fixes it for a while but eventually I have to restart it.

Thanks!

[Beastro]

1. If you are running the minimum size galaxy, does this issue ever happen to you?
2. What kind of video card do you have and how much memory does it have?
3. If you edit the startup.ini to run DW in windowed mode, does this issue still happen?

1: Haven't tried.
2. Radeon 7900 3gb
3: Yes. Tt takes longer it seems, took an hour or so to occur this time and it only scrolled straight to the left, but it's only happened once to me since I got back into the game after sitting back and waiting for a fix, I'll play more and edit in my developments, if any.

Edit: Happened again. Like what others described above with the scroll wheel zooming into the upper left corner and no arrow scrolling, but I can't click and drag to box ships nor click on anything specific be it a ship on the screen or a tech in the research window.

Sigh, was hoping I could work around around the simple zoom bug but the lack of click keeps the game unplayable when this hits.

Edit edit: Seems to be happening just as frequently as before now with as little as 10 minutes or so between spaz outs...

[Retreat1970]

Beastro - Saving the game and playing seems to drop dw.exe mem usage only by 50 - 100mb or so. That's why you hit 1.2gb mem usage within 10 minutes and the scroll happens. A complete restart of the game will load in your save game at a 700-800mb dw.exe usage and you will be able to play alot longer. Not the ideal solution, but the devs have this on their radar.

[Kilravock]

I might as well join in on this. I have been experiencing this same bug since the Legends expansion, but it didn't become game breaking until Shadows which caused me to shelve the game out of frustration. I was not going to buy the new expansion, but the discounts and the Steam key availability changed my mind.

I have not tried the new patch or played a full game with the new expansion, but the experiences of Retreat1970 is the same as mine with Shadows. I play games on max map and star density sizes so the bug always showed up mid game when the empires are expanding and fighting wars. Saving the game would fix it for awhile. Reloading the game also worked, but after two or three times of this I had to restart the game.

All drivers are current. Vista 64 bit, 8 GB RAM, ATI video card (2GB i think), Intel 3.2 dual core chip. Also I have tried three different keyboards and mice which had no effect.

I will try and answer those questions when I have the time. Do you need any save game files?

[Retreat1970]

This is definately a Vista x64 issue. If all the XP, 7, and 8 users had this problem the forums would implode. The plus side is that Universe is so much more optimized than Shadows. Game restarts aren't painfully slow anymore, and the memory usage improvements the Devs did are wonderful. If it wasn't for those two things the game would be shelved. I have faith and patience. Until a fix I have to restart a game every so often. Could be worse...

[Beastro]

ORIGINAL: Retreat1970

This is definately a Vista x64 issue. If all the XP, 7, and 8 users had this problem the forums would implode. The plus side is that Universe is so much more optimized than Shadows. Game restarts aren't painfully slow anymore, and the memory usage improvements the Devs did are wonderful. If it wasn't for those two things the game would be shelved. I have faith and patience. Until a fix I have to restart a game every so often. Could be worse...

It makes learning the game as a newbie very hard and frustrating as it keeps interrupting you're train of though while you're busy enough as it is processing everything new going on.

[Kilravock]

OK, I have an update. I just tried playing a pirate game with no mods and it happen. This game was a max game, 1400 stars, 15x15 map, 20 empires, and few pirates. Year 7 and one hour in it happened while I was attacking a home world. Saved the game and it was fine again. This was the quickest that this bug has happen to me, but I was on 4x speed the whole time.

For your questions.

1. I have not tried it with a smaller map.
2. ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series 1 GB (Looks like my rig is the oldest one reporting this bug but it still runs modern games fine)
3. It happens in both modes.

[Croder]

Hi there,

Just purchased this game and I'm also encountering this issue. Hitting it shortly into my first Introductory Game.

Running Vista x64, Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 Ti.

[Erik Rutins]

We are still researching this and believe it to likely be specific to some differences in how Vista 64-bit handles memory. However, to provide us with some more information, a few more questions:

1. What kind (brand and model) of mouse and keyboard do you all have?
2. If you set the autosave to 10 minute intervals in the options, does that reduce the frequency of this issue, especially when playing in smaller galaxies?

Regards,

- Erik