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- FeurerKrieg
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RE: May 26th, 1942
So I'm sitting at work thinking about AE. Over the next couple months I expect to have several R&D factories finish their planned early war advances and become available to switch to something else. I have a lot of R&D on the 'lines' of planes that can be used to repair the factories quickly (Zero/Zeke, Tojo, Oscar, Tony), so now that it is midway through 42, I'm looking to put the rest of my R&D onto models that might take a while to repair since they are late war models with no 'entry' into their line to take advantage of.
If you had to pick say, less than 5 models of late war (45-46) aircraft as being the most important to advance, what would they be? Some reasoning would be nice too.
If you had to pick say, less than 5 models of late war (45-46) aircraft as being the most important to advance, what would they be? Some reasoning would be nice too.
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RE: May 26th, 1942
I didn't stick with 44 because so many good lines begin sooner than that.
Anyway, here are a few thoughts.
Assuming you are using the babes updated Air Values
1. IJN CAP- J2M3- Uses the same engine as Betty and Sally. If you converted over to Nell from Betty, and Sally to Helen, you have a lot of factories to build engines for Jack. J2M3 arrives in 5/43 but the real nice version is the J2M3 which has 4x20mm and SL2. It arrives in 4/44 and with some RnD can be ready in early enough and in enough strength to battle the 4e before the onslaught because TOO overwhelming.
N1K1 line is nice but arrives later. The SL2 crate has an arrival of 11/44 which is too late unless you can RnD a ton of it. I’d build both in parallel but this argument can be made to use Jack as the primary IJN CAP aircraft and to RnD it over the N1K1.
N1K2 and J2M3 are the last SL2 IJN fighters besides all models of the Zero. I’d much rather build those and forget the Zero completely, using them as I would a SL2 fighter with a bit more rotation to the rear as needed. What about the CV capable aircraft? How many CVs will you have in late 44?
2. IJN CV Capable Fighter- A7M2 SL2 but will your fighters and ships remain in fighting shape after the first day? This plane measures to Jack and George statistically so if you choose to RnD some in case you have CVs and then lose said CVS, they will not go to waste in what were Zero squadrons later.
3. IJA CAP- Ki84 is a given of course and for good reason, but a case can be made to upgrade the Ki100-I which is SL1 and has 2x20mm on the centerline. 3/45 arrival.
4. Very late war IJN CAP- Shinden. Inaccurate guns but centerline mounted. Great speed and high altitude performance.
5. IJA Multi-role- Ki-83. Fast, long ranged, very high altitude capable, great gun package all with centerline accuracy.
Naturally, I’d do some other things but you ask for a limited list and there is plenty of factories around to work with the rest in groups of 30 or so.
Anyway, here are a few thoughts.
Assuming you are using the babes updated Air Values
1. IJN CAP- J2M3- Uses the same engine as Betty and Sally. If you converted over to Nell from Betty, and Sally to Helen, you have a lot of factories to build engines for Jack. J2M3 arrives in 5/43 but the real nice version is the J2M3 which has 4x20mm and SL2. It arrives in 4/44 and with some RnD can be ready in early enough and in enough strength to battle the 4e before the onslaught because TOO overwhelming.
N1K1 line is nice but arrives later. The SL2 crate has an arrival of 11/44 which is too late unless you can RnD a ton of it. I’d build both in parallel but this argument can be made to use Jack as the primary IJN CAP aircraft and to RnD it over the N1K1.
N1K2 and J2M3 are the last SL2 IJN fighters besides all models of the Zero. I’d much rather build those and forget the Zero completely, using them as I would a SL2 fighter with a bit more rotation to the rear as needed. What about the CV capable aircraft? How many CVs will you have in late 44?
2. IJN CV Capable Fighter- A7M2 SL2 but will your fighters and ships remain in fighting shape after the first day? This plane measures to Jack and George statistically so if you choose to RnD some in case you have CVs and then lose said CVS, they will not go to waste in what were Zero squadrons later.
3. IJA CAP- Ki84 is a given of course and for good reason, but a case can be made to upgrade the Ki100-I which is SL1 and has 2x20mm on the centerline. 3/45 arrival.
4. Very late war IJN CAP- Shinden. Inaccurate guns but centerline mounted. Great speed and high altitude performance.
5. IJA Multi-role- Ki-83. Fast, long ranged, very high altitude capable, great gun package all with centerline accuracy.
Naturally, I’d do some other things but you ask for a limited list and there is plenty of factories around to work with the rest in groups of 30 or so.
Sometimes things said in Nitwit sound very different in English.
- FeurerKrieg
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RE: May 26th, 1942
Thanks -
The reason I was looking at 45/46 was because the models that I can get to via 42/43 models such as the J2M3 and Ki-100 I already have a fair bit of factories on since they repair faster due to the first model of the line not being very far out.
However, you did help answer my question.
Maybe I should have asked the question this way - are there any 45/46 models, that are better than the Ki-100/J2M/N1K lines. A7M2 is a given, so I appreciate your opinions on the Ki-84, Shinden and Ki-83. Thanks!
The reason I was looking at 45/46 was because the models that I can get to via 42/43 models such as the J2M3 and Ki-100 I already have a fair bit of factories on since they repair faster due to the first model of the line not being very far out.
However, you did help answer my question.
Maybe I should have asked the question this way - are there any 45/46 models, that are better than the Ki-100/J2M/N1K lines. A7M2 is a given, so I appreciate your opinions on the Ki-84, Shinden and Ki-83. Thanks!
RE: May 26th, 1942
I don't know what the latest changes made for DBB are but...
P1Y2-S - best IJN Night Fighter
Ki-102c - best IJA Night Fighter even though it doesn't get radar until late
Ki-83 or Ki-94-II - each has its benefits, Ki-94-II is half the price but half the weapons. Ki-94-II has awesome altitude (but lousy climb) and Ki-83 has great range.
Ki-115b (via Ki-115a) lets you upgrade all the 1E IJA bombers just in time to meet the Soviet hordes or before that as killer Kamikaze.
J7W1 - impressive IJN interceptor.
However, think about how many you want to research. With these long lead time platforms you can get more value out of having more factories on each. Because there is a spread of how long they take to get completely fixed the first fixed factory advances the delivery date which makes the not yet fixed factories fix quicker. So, rather than putting say 3 factories on each of 5 you may be better off with 5 factories on 3.
P1Y2-S - best IJN Night Fighter
Ki-102c - best IJA Night Fighter even though it doesn't get radar until late
Ki-83 or Ki-94-II - each has its benefits, Ki-94-II is half the price but half the weapons. Ki-94-II has awesome altitude (but lousy climb) and Ki-83 has great range.
Ki-115b (via Ki-115a) lets you upgrade all the 1E IJA bombers just in time to meet the Soviet hordes or before that as killer Kamikaze.
J7W1 - impressive IJN interceptor.
However, think about how many you want to research. With these long lead time platforms you can get more value out of having more factories on each. Because there is a spread of how long they take to get completely fixed the first fixed factory advances the delivery date which makes the not yet fixed factories fix quicker. So, rather than putting say 3 factories on each of 5 you may be better off with 5 factories on 3.
- FeurerKrieg
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RE: May 26th, 1942
However, think about how many you want to research. With these long lead time platforms you can get more value out of having more factories on each. Because there is a spread of how long they take to get completely fixed the first fixed factory advances the delivery date which makes the not yet fixed factories fix quicker. So, rather than putting say 3 factories on each of 5 you may be better off with 5 factories on 3.
Agree with this - which is why I'm trying to decide which few I want to really focus on with these extra factories that are going to free up soon.
RE: May 26th, 1942
KI 201 Karyu. How you last long enough to actually get it, and the cost in factories boggles the mind, but I think this plane is a game changer if you can get it. I have seen it in action in Ironman nasty and it is nasty.[:D] Really, really, nasty.
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May 27th, 1942
May 27th, 1942
India/Burma
Bettys escorted by Zeros and Oscars attack some small ships at Trivandrum. A second wave of Mabels and Kates also attack. In total, 1 Minelayer and 2 xAKLs are sunk. A couple Hurricanes and Mohawks are shot down in the process too.
The 124th Regiment catches up to the troops that retreated from Mandalay and launches a deliberate attack. The regiment gets 1:1 results (55:34). We'll try again, but the enemy troops will probably retreat to Lashio before the next attack goes off.
Pacific
We score one hit on an enemy sub today as some of our KB Vals are set to ASW.
China
It is all about Chengtu today. We send Sallys with Oscar escort to hit the two enemy units there. The Chinese try to defend with 9x I-15-III. Our Oscars get the bombers through and they do about 240 casualties of damage.
On the ground at Chengtu, the 22nd Division, 13th Ind Mixbrigade and 26th Recon Regiment (light armor) attack the 40th Chinese Corp and the 3rd Chinese Base Force. We do well and capture the base on the first go with a 3:1 result against level 1 forts. We destroy 4 I-15-III and 25(!) SB-IIIs on the ground. The production facilities take nearly no damage, although there isn't enough fuel to run the HI. Until the Chinese arrive we should have about 200 supply a day being produced here.
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An important capture at Chengtu that removes a lot of supply from the Chinese[/center]
Other
Fukuoka expands the airfield to size 5.
India/Burma
Bettys escorted by Zeros and Oscars attack some small ships at Trivandrum. A second wave of Mabels and Kates also attack. In total, 1 Minelayer and 2 xAKLs are sunk. A couple Hurricanes and Mohawks are shot down in the process too.
The 124th Regiment catches up to the troops that retreated from Mandalay and launches a deliberate attack. The regiment gets 1:1 results (55:34). We'll try again, but the enemy troops will probably retreat to Lashio before the next attack goes off.
Pacific
We score one hit on an enemy sub today as some of our KB Vals are set to ASW.
China
It is all about Chengtu today. We send Sallys with Oscar escort to hit the two enemy units there. The Chinese try to defend with 9x I-15-III. Our Oscars get the bombers through and they do about 240 casualties of damage.
On the ground at Chengtu, the 22nd Division, 13th Ind Mixbrigade and 26th Recon Regiment (light armor) attack the 40th Chinese Corp and the 3rd Chinese Base Force. We do well and capture the base on the first go with a 3:1 result against level 1 forts. We destroy 4 I-15-III and 25(!) SB-IIIs on the ground. The production facilities take nearly no damage, although there isn't enough fuel to run the HI. Until the Chinese arrive we should have about 200 supply a day being produced here.
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An important capture at Chengtu that removes a lot of supply from the Chinese[/center]
Other
Fukuoka expands the airfield to size 5.
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May 28th, 1942
May 28th, 1942
India/Burma
Bettys attack at Trivandrum again and take out xAKL Haiyang and xAK Santa Elisa. I'm surprise he hasn't moved these ships yet. Four more Mohawks go down trying to defend the strike.
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Air attack on Trivandrum[/center]
We also get a couple aerial hits on enemy subs in the Ceylon area.
Pacific
At Pago Pago, the 21st Division TF arrives. SS S-47 is thwarted and also is hit with two depth charges. We then begin unloading. In the first phase the enemy fires 511 Coastal Gun shots. Our battleships and cruisers to take a few shots that might have otherwise hit transports, so that helped since their armor can handle it. Unfortunately a couple of our destroyers take hits as well, but I think they will be able to make it back to Suva.
In the next phase, the enemy fires 274 shots, and two our our xAK's are hit hard. Maya takes 12 hits though, probably saving another xAK for another phase. Yamashiro takes 3 as well. All the hits on the capital ships are non-penetrating.
During the final phase, 97 shots are fired and we lose one more xAK. Not too bad for the first day. There are still a few more squads to unload and then supplies, but most of the division is unloaded and in not too terrible shape.
China
Enemy Lancers and H81-A3s sweep Chengtu, but we don't have any CAP up.
At Chengtu, we send the recon unit east to try and open a hexside from the Kienko hex. We will likely get intercepted, but it is worth a try since we would then be free to move units through Kienko into the valley.
We finally have some supply, and try a DA at Tuyun. Another enemy unit has arrived and this time we lose two tanks with 24 disabled. We'll send these back down the road a bit to continue to block supply. One of the tanks will go further on and attempt to get on the road between Kweilin and Liuchow.
Nothing major, but a Chinese unit has attempted to come up from Ichang and then march up the road to Ankang. Thankfully we had a couple armor units standing guard there so we own the hex still. We did try a counterattack, but only got 1:4 results. It is a clear hex and some air power should fix this problem.
Submarines
Near Pearl Harbor, I-25 takes a shot at AVD Hulbert and misses.
India/Burma
Bettys attack at Trivandrum again and take out xAKL Haiyang and xAK Santa Elisa. I'm surprise he hasn't moved these ships yet. Four more Mohawks go down trying to defend the strike.
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Air attack on Trivandrum[/center]
We also get a couple aerial hits on enemy subs in the Ceylon area.
Pacific
At Pago Pago, the 21st Division TF arrives. SS S-47 is thwarted and also is hit with two depth charges. We then begin unloading. In the first phase the enemy fires 511 Coastal Gun shots. Our battleships and cruisers to take a few shots that might have otherwise hit transports, so that helped since their armor can handle it. Unfortunately a couple of our destroyers take hits as well, but I think they will be able to make it back to Suva.
In the next phase, the enemy fires 274 shots, and two our our xAK's are hit hard. Maya takes 12 hits though, probably saving another xAK for another phase. Yamashiro takes 3 as well. All the hits on the capital ships are non-penetrating.
During the final phase, 97 shots are fired and we lose one more xAK. Not too bad for the first day. There are still a few more squads to unload and then supplies, but most of the division is unloaded and in not too terrible shape.
China
Enemy Lancers and H81-A3s sweep Chengtu, but we don't have any CAP up.
At Chengtu, we send the recon unit east to try and open a hexside from the Kienko hex. We will likely get intercepted, but it is worth a try since we would then be free to move units through Kienko into the valley.
We finally have some supply, and try a DA at Tuyun. Another enemy unit has arrived and this time we lose two tanks with 24 disabled. We'll send these back down the road a bit to continue to block supply. One of the tanks will go further on and attempt to get on the road between Kweilin and Liuchow.
Nothing major, but a Chinese unit has attempted to come up from Ichang and then march up the road to Ankang. Thankfully we had a couple armor units standing guard there so we own the hex still. We did try a counterattack, but only got 1:4 results. It is a clear hex and some air power should fix this problem.
Submarines
Near Pearl Harbor, I-25 takes a shot at AVD Hulbert and misses.
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May 29th, 1942
May 29th, 1942
India/Burma
Today the 2nd Raiding Reg paratroops drop on Dimapur and capture the empty base. This will give our paras in Tezpur a place to retreat to when the Indians finally come and kick us off the rail line.
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Another successful paratroop attack[/center]
Pacific
Tabiteuea reaches size four airfield. A 27 planes Sentai of Betty's will fly in to provide some coverage of that corner of the Pacific. Ships at Canton are now in range of torpedo attack from the Bettys here.
Buna also reaches size four, providing some overlapping coverage of Port Moresby from the inevitable heavy bomber attacks.
At Pago Pago, the enemy gun fire has lessened although we still end up with a sunk xAK and two more damaged ones today. We catch S-43 at Pago Pago and catch a couple hits on the sub, but no sinking is confirmed. Three P-40E's attack and one scores a hit on one of our transports as well.
China
The Chinese unit ont he road to Ankang shock attacks our two small armored units today and gets a 1:7 results due to lots of negative mods. We lose 2 tanks and they lose about 240 men.
Submarines
In between Canton and the Line Islands, I-24 takes a shot at DD Perkins - twice! Unfortunately it misses on both occasions.
India/Burma
Today the 2nd Raiding Reg paratroops drop on Dimapur and capture the empty base. This will give our paras in Tezpur a place to retreat to when the Indians finally come and kick us off the rail line.
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Another successful paratroop attack[/center]
Pacific
Tabiteuea reaches size four airfield. A 27 planes Sentai of Betty's will fly in to provide some coverage of that corner of the Pacific. Ships at Canton are now in range of torpedo attack from the Bettys here.
Buna also reaches size four, providing some overlapping coverage of Port Moresby from the inevitable heavy bomber attacks.
At Pago Pago, the enemy gun fire has lessened although we still end up with a sunk xAK and two more damaged ones today. We catch S-43 at Pago Pago and catch a couple hits on the sub, but no sinking is confirmed. Three P-40E's attack and one scores a hit on one of our transports as well.
China
The Chinese unit ont he road to Ankang shock attacks our two small armored units today and gets a 1:7 results due to lots of negative mods. We lose 2 tanks and they lose about 240 men.
Submarines
In between Canton and the Line Islands, I-24 takes a shot at DD Perkins - twice! Unfortunately it misses on both occasions.
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May 30th, 1942
May 30th, 1942
India/Burma
Today the 3rd Yokosuka SNLF Paratroops drop into Comilla and capture the empty base. We'll flying additional units here soon and then the 3rd Yokosuka will march southwest to cut off the retreat patch from Chittagong. This also will stop any flow of non-air transported supplies from getting to Chittagong as well.
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Another good airdrop[/center]
Port Blair goes to size three. Once it hit size 4, that will be it.
Pacific
Our SNLF Barge group occupies Wallis Island today. They will turn south towards Niuafo'ou next. They get a bit of action today as SS Permit comes by and sinks one of the barges with its 4" deck gun.
At Pago Pago, just a few ships are still unloading and it is just supplies as this point. We lose wo of the damage xAKs today.
Other
Aircraft A6M8 Zero advances R&D
Pilot Okamoto, H. is reported as to have escaped capture
India/Burma
Today the 3rd Yokosuka SNLF Paratroops drop into Comilla and capture the empty base. We'll flying additional units here soon and then the 3rd Yokosuka will march southwest to cut off the retreat patch from Chittagong. This also will stop any flow of non-air transported supplies from getting to Chittagong as well.
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Another good airdrop[/center]
Port Blair goes to size three. Once it hit size 4, that will be it.
Pacific
Our SNLF Barge group occupies Wallis Island today. They will turn south towards Niuafo'ou next. They get a bit of action today as SS Permit comes by and sinks one of the barges with its 4" deck gun.
At Pago Pago, just a few ships are still unloading and it is just supplies as this point. We lose wo of the damage xAKs today.
Other
Aircraft A6M8 Zero advances R&D
Pilot Okamoto, H. is reported as to have escaped capture
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May 31th, 1942
May 31th, 1942
India/Burma
We get a hit on an enemy sub near Ceylon via air attack.
We do a Zero sweep of Trivadrum today and find some Mohawks and Hurricanes on station. No Zeros are lost, but we do shoot down 1 Hurricane and 9 Mohawks.
DEI/N Australia
Tjilatjap airfield goes to size 4 and it will switch to forts.
Also, another of our SNLF units occupies Gelb.
Pacific
At Pago Pago we try an attack. We maange to get 1:1 odds and take forts down from level 3 to level 2. Casualties are still lopsided in the Allies favor, but the dropping forts gives me some hope. Battleship Yamato and company will be here to bombard in coordinate with the next attack. Hopefully that will convince them to surrender.
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Thank goodness for bad detonators[/center]
India/Burma
We get a hit on an enemy sub near Ceylon via air attack.
We do a Zero sweep of Trivadrum today and find some Mohawks and Hurricanes on station. No Zeros are lost, but we do shoot down 1 Hurricane and 9 Mohawks.
DEI/N Australia
Tjilatjap airfield goes to size 4 and it will switch to forts.
Also, another of our SNLF units occupies Gelb.
Pacific
At Pago Pago we try an attack. We maange to get 1:1 odds and take forts down from level 3 to level 2. Casualties are still lopsided in the Allies favor, but the dropping forts gives me some hope. Battleship Yamato and company will be here to bombard in coordinate with the next attack. Hopefully that will convince them to surrender.
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Thank goodness for bad detonators[/center]
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RE: May 31th, 1942
Still alive here. Game is cruising along, up to June 15th now. I've bee a bit busy with summer stuff hence the delay in updates. Went to a street festival in Frisco, CO last Friday, it was quite good food. My son can really eat - he had a cheesesteak, shark on a stick, some of my ribs, part of gyro, cotton candy, a snowcone, and a giant cheesecake on a stick. Oh, and two skewers of bbq shrimp and kielbasa sausage.
It was a nice day, great weather. Interestingly enough, there was a band playing Talking Heads songs. I never really thought of the Talking Heads as the type of band that could generate a tribute band... to each their own I guess. Maybe my son and I can do a Type O Negative tribute band after all.
Anyway - last night I was reviewing my production stuff since it was the 15th, and I realized that the oil and fuel from Burma is happily moving to Hong Kong every three turns. If you might recall, the refineries in Rangoon got wiped out, but the oil (and small refinery) in Magwe was in perfect condition. This is pretty good since my oil stocks are slowly declining in the Home Islands. Fuel is on the rise, but oil is slowly dropping. This Hong Kong oil is about 1800 units a day, so that will certainly help slow the drop in oil at home. I will set up a CS convoy to get the oil and fuel from Hong Kong on my next turn. Not having to send ships to Rangoon is a great help to my economic efforts.
Another 30 days and my important engines will hit stockpiles of 500 which will really accelerate my R&D efforts. Plus, I should be able to stop expanding engine factories for a bit so I can start building my stockpile of supply.
It was a nice day, great weather. Interestingly enough, there was a band playing Talking Heads songs. I never really thought of the Talking Heads as the type of band that could generate a tribute band... to each their own I guess. Maybe my son and I can do a Type O Negative tribute band after all.
Anyway - last night I was reviewing my production stuff since it was the 15th, and I realized that the oil and fuel from Burma is happily moving to Hong Kong every three turns. If you might recall, the refineries in Rangoon got wiped out, but the oil (and small refinery) in Magwe was in perfect condition. This is pretty good since my oil stocks are slowly declining in the Home Islands. Fuel is on the rise, but oil is slowly dropping. This Hong Kong oil is about 1800 units a day, so that will certainly help slow the drop in oil at home. I will set up a CS convoy to get the oil and fuel from Hong Kong on my next turn. Not having to send ships to Rangoon is a great help to my economic efforts.
Another 30 days and my important engines will hit stockpiles of 500 which will really accelerate my R&D efforts. Plus, I should be able to stop expanding engine factories for a bit so I can start building my stockpile of supply.
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May Summary
Another month comes to an end. A little less action, but no less important than prior months. The only change in the capital ship list is that CA Northhampton came off the list. CV Formidable is still on there, but I'm quite sure it didn't sink so I haven't included it below.
In Burma we capture Rangoon and mostof the other bases that matter. All the remains is a bit of clean up in the eastern most bases. In India, some paradrops have helped slow down Allied reinforments to the fight developing at Chittagong. We have a few more divisions on the way, and will hopefully move past Chittagong towards Calcutta in June.
China saw some nice gains. We recovered Nanning and have again built a stalemate at Liuchow, although with the lack of supply for the Chinese we will eventually be able to take Liuchow. In the Chunking valley we managed a break through and managed to capture Chengtu and some valuable supply producing factories, as well as some nice light urban defensive terrain. Also we grabbed a couple more of the far northern bases. In the center, we have Shaoyang and Siantan firmly under control, and units are in the planning stages of an offensive to catpure Hengyang, thus mostly isolating Changsha.
In the Pacific, we capture the important base of Suva and the writing is on the wall at Pago Pago. From there all that remains is Canton Island and we will be finished with all offensive action in that theater.
Some numbers for May -
Bases captured: 41
VP Ratio May 1: 2.729:1 (Japan)
VP Ratio June 1: 3.350:1 (Japan)
Air losses: 260 Japan, 212 Allies
Ships lost - Allies: 10 Ships, 232 Points
Ships lost - Japan: 24 Ships, 59 Points
Capital Ships lost (entire war):
Allies
CV Enterprise
CV Indomitable
CV Lexington
CV Saratoga
CV Yorktown
BB Prince of Wales
BB Resolution
BB Ramillies
BB Revenge
BB Royal Sovereign
BC Repulse
CA Australia
CA Canberra
CA Chester
CA Chicago
CA Cornwall
CA Dorsetshire
CA Exeter
CA Indianapolis
CA Pensacola
CA San Francisco
CL Achilles
CL Adelaide
CL Caledon
CL Ceres
CL Colombo
CL Danae
CL De Ruyter
CL Dragon
CL Enterprise
CL Hobart
CL Java
CL Leander
CL Marblehead
CL Mauritius
CL Perth
Japan
CV Shokaku
CVL Zuiho
CA Mogami
CL Kashii
CL Kashima
CL Sendai
Here is the current submarine scoreboard. No subs were lost in May. I-159 takes the lead away from I-165.
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In Burma we capture Rangoon and mostof the other bases that matter. All the remains is a bit of clean up in the eastern most bases. In India, some paradrops have helped slow down Allied reinforments to the fight developing at Chittagong. We have a few more divisions on the way, and will hopefully move past Chittagong towards Calcutta in June.
China saw some nice gains. We recovered Nanning and have again built a stalemate at Liuchow, although with the lack of supply for the Chinese we will eventually be able to take Liuchow. In the Chunking valley we managed a break through and managed to capture Chengtu and some valuable supply producing factories, as well as some nice light urban defensive terrain. Also we grabbed a couple more of the far northern bases. In the center, we have Shaoyang and Siantan firmly under control, and units are in the planning stages of an offensive to catpure Hengyang, thus mostly isolating Changsha.
In the Pacific, we capture the important base of Suva and the writing is on the wall at Pago Pago. From there all that remains is Canton Island and we will be finished with all offensive action in that theater.
Some numbers for May -
Bases captured: 41
VP Ratio May 1: 2.729:1 (Japan)
VP Ratio June 1: 3.350:1 (Japan)
Air losses: 260 Japan, 212 Allies
Ships lost - Allies: 10 Ships, 232 Points
Ships lost - Japan: 24 Ships, 59 Points
Capital Ships lost (entire war):
Allies
CV Enterprise
CV Indomitable
CV Lexington
CV Saratoga
CV Yorktown
BB Prince of Wales
BB Resolution
BB Ramillies
BB Revenge
BB Royal Sovereign
BC Repulse
CA Australia
CA Canberra
CA Chester
CA Chicago
CA Cornwall
CA Dorsetshire
CA Exeter
CA Indianapolis
CA Pensacola
CA San Francisco
CL Achilles
CL Adelaide
CL Caledon
CL Ceres
CL Colombo
CL Danae
CL De Ruyter
CL Dragon
CL Enterprise
CL Hobart
CL Java
CL Leander
CL Marblehead
CL Mauritius
CL Perth
Japan
CV Shokaku
CVL Zuiho
CA Mogami
CL Kashii
CL Kashima
CL Sendai
Here is the current submarine scoreboard. No subs were lost in May. I-159 takes the lead away from I-165.
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[/center]- FeurerKrieg
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June 1st, 1942
June 1st, 1942
India/Burma
We hit a sub near Colombo from the air. In the same area, our DMS ships on ASW report a single depth charge hit on SS Truant.
Pacific
We get three hits on subs between Suva and Pago Pago with aerial ASW. Additionally, there are lots of sub attacks by the Allied subs, but they all either miss or dud. Probably over a half dozen attacks in that area.
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Lots of enemy sub around[/center]
We sweep Pago Pago, but no enemy planes are flying. On land we continue to rest. Yamato and company are still two days away. I expect we will be able to attack in conjunction with the bombardment on June 3rd.
China
Sian goes to fort level 3. I think I'll stop it for now. Maybe resume at a later date.
More importantly Chengtu goes to level 2 forts. This is important since it may be a while until we can get reinforcements to that base.
Submarines
I-8 fires at AVD Hulbert near Hawaii and misses.
Other
Our G3M2 Nell factory at Maebashi upgrades to G3M3 Nell.
AG Ban Hong Liong is reported to have been sunk near Port Blair on Dec 29, 1941
India/Burma
We hit a sub near Colombo from the air. In the same area, our DMS ships on ASW report a single depth charge hit on SS Truant.
Pacific
We get three hits on subs between Suva and Pago Pago with aerial ASW. Additionally, there are lots of sub attacks by the Allied subs, but they all either miss or dud. Probably over a half dozen attacks in that area.
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Lots of enemy sub around[/center]
We sweep Pago Pago, but no enemy planes are flying. On land we continue to rest. Yamato and company are still two days away. I expect we will be able to attack in conjunction with the bombardment on June 3rd.
China
Sian goes to fort level 3. I think I'll stop it for now. Maybe resume at a later date.
More importantly Chengtu goes to level 2 forts. This is important since it may be a while until we can get reinforcements to that base.
Submarines
I-8 fires at AVD Hulbert near Hawaii and misses.
Other
Our G3M2 Nell factory at Maebashi upgrades to G3M3 Nell.
AG Ban Hong Liong is reported to have been sunk near Port Blair on Dec 29, 1941
- FeurerKrieg
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June 2nd, 1942
June 2nd, 1942
India/Burma
An enemy sub is hit from the air near Ceylon.
11 Buffalos strafe our paratroops at Comilla. Additionally, 3 Hudson IIIa, 16 Wellingtons, and 2 Hudson I's come in as well. In total we suffer about 300 casualties - all disabled squads, no kills.
We launch another attack south of Chittagong and get 1:1 (1208:663) results. So close to 2:1 but not quite. Although we take more casualties, the enemy loses are more in destroyed squads than we do, including 90 lost vehicles, of which 54 were destroyed.
DEI/N Australia
South of Singapore, the 1st Sasebo Coy captures Lingga.
Philippines
Surigao, on Mindanao, flips back to our control. This one has flip flopped a couple times.
Pacific
We are all set to try and bombard and attack Pago Pago tomorrow. I think the big ships will reach the island base during the day, so hopefully they do well.
China
The Allies try a shock attack at the crossroads southwest of Nanyang, but only get 1:2 odds against my two small armor units.
Other
xAP Chaumont is reported to have been sunk near Derby on Jan 19, 1942
AG Vyner Brooke is reported to have been sunk near Sabang on Jan 04, 1942
India/Burma
An enemy sub is hit from the air near Ceylon.
11 Buffalos strafe our paratroops at Comilla. Additionally, 3 Hudson IIIa, 16 Wellingtons, and 2 Hudson I's come in as well. In total we suffer about 300 casualties - all disabled squads, no kills.
We launch another attack south of Chittagong and get 1:1 (1208:663) results. So close to 2:1 but not quite. Although we take more casualties, the enemy loses are more in destroyed squads than we do, including 90 lost vehicles, of which 54 were destroyed.
DEI/N Australia
South of Singapore, the 1st Sasebo Coy captures Lingga.
Philippines
Surigao, on Mindanao, flips back to our control. This one has flip flopped a couple times.
Pacific
We are all set to try and bombard and attack Pago Pago tomorrow. I think the big ships will reach the island base during the day, so hopefully they do well.
China
The Allies try a shock attack at the crossroads southwest of Nanyang, but only get 1:2 odds against my two small armor units.
Other
xAP Chaumont is reported to have been sunk near Derby on Jan 19, 1942
AG Vyner Brooke is reported to have been sunk near Sabang on Jan 04, 1942
- FeurerKrieg
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June 3rd, 1942
June 3rd, 1942
India/Burma
Dimapur manages to get forts up to level one. We don't have the supplies to burn for fort level 2, so we'll stop there.
DEI/North Australia
CV Soryu is back to fully repaired status and sets sail from Hong Kong to join up with Hiryu and a CVE to cover the invasion of Broome.
Pacific
The small base midway between Suva and Pago Pago, called Niuafo'ou, is occupied by our SNLF Coy today. Also, Suva goes to fort level 3.
SS Seawolf duds on BB Yamashiro as the big ship returns to Suva. Escorts do manage to score a depth charge hit on Seawolf though.
At Pago Pago, we again sweep and even send in some Vals to help with the effort. They don't do much apparent damage, but maybe add to disruption. Nells from Suva attack as well. Most importantly, in broad daylight, as hoped, our we bombard the island with the battleships Yamato, Kirishima and Hiei, as well as heavy cruisers Furutaka, Kinugasa, Aoba. The heavy ships don't do a ton of damage but they inflict 300 casualties and I'm guessing inflict a lot of disruption.
When our troops attack on land, they are able to capture the base decisively with an 8:1 result against fort level 2. Almost 5,000 US troops surrender to our forces, along with about 200 artillery pieces. We also capture 11 P-39D aircraft.
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Pago Pago is finally captured[/center]
China
SB-III's at Hami in the far north of China, attack our units that are marching on the base, but do no damage. A bunch of I-16-III and I-15-IIIs attack as well, also doing no damage to our tanks.
Other
CV Soryu is back to fully repaired status and sets sail from Hong Kong to join up with Hiryu and a CVE to cover the invasion of Broome.
Aircraft Ki-44-IIc Tojo advances R&D
India/Burma
Dimapur manages to get forts up to level one. We don't have the supplies to burn for fort level 2, so we'll stop there.
DEI/North Australia
CV Soryu is back to fully repaired status and sets sail from Hong Kong to join up with Hiryu and a CVE to cover the invasion of Broome.
Pacific
The small base midway between Suva and Pago Pago, called Niuafo'ou, is occupied by our SNLF Coy today. Also, Suva goes to fort level 3.
SS Seawolf duds on BB Yamashiro as the big ship returns to Suva. Escorts do manage to score a depth charge hit on Seawolf though.
At Pago Pago, we again sweep and even send in some Vals to help with the effort. They don't do much apparent damage, but maybe add to disruption. Nells from Suva attack as well. Most importantly, in broad daylight, as hoped, our we bombard the island with the battleships Yamato, Kirishima and Hiei, as well as heavy cruisers Furutaka, Kinugasa, Aoba. The heavy ships don't do a ton of damage but they inflict 300 casualties and I'm guessing inflict a lot of disruption.
When our troops attack on land, they are able to capture the base decisively with an 8:1 result against fort level 2. Almost 5,000 US troops surrender to our forces, along with about 200 artillery pieces. We also capture 11 P-39D aircraft.
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Pago Pago is finally captured[/center]
China
SB-III's at Hami in the far north of China, attack our units that are marching on the base, but do no damage. A bunch of I-16-III and I-15-IIIs attack as well, also doing no damage to our tanks.
Other
CV Soryu is back to fully repaired status and sets sail from Hong Kong to join up with Hiryu and a CVE to cover the invasion of Broome.
Aircraft Ki-44-IIc Tojo advances R&D
- FeurerKrieg
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June 4th, 1942
June 4th, 1942
India/Burma
16 Wellingtons attack our paratroops at Dimapur, but the jungle shields us from any damage.
We launch a deliberate attack near Chittagong and get 1:1 (1151:729) results. Casualties look bad, 3,600 of us to 525 of them, but most of ours are disabled and theirs are destroyed. Plus 130 enemy vehicles are taken out (60 destroyed). The 48th and 55th are on the way and I'm sure they will be enough to take this stubborn hex given they are both at over 100% TOE and have 90+ experience.
DEI/N Australia
Obi, a dot base north of Ambon, is occupied as our SNLF Coy lands on it.
Pacific
Munda and Noumea both go to size 3 airfields. I'll stop both at size 4.
I had forgotten to turn of my Nells at Suva, and they flew a mission at Savaii, attacking the Samoa Detachment there. I didn't even know there were troops on that little island. I'll load up part of the 21st Division to take care of that island before moving on to Canton. Looks like a small unit that should be easy enough to take out.
China
Over Shaoyang, the Chinese put up a fight as 6 H81-A3's are on CAP. Thankfully we have escorts for our bombers and end up killing two of the H81's while losing no Oscars.
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Token air resistance in China[/center]
A single Chinese unit moved from Hengyang to Shaoyang yesterday. All of our artillery had relocated there, so we launch an attack with lots of artillery support and air support and easily send the 65th Chinese Corp running with a 123:1 result.
India/Burma
16 Wellingtons attack our paratroops at Dimapur, but the jungle shields us from any damage.
We launch a deliberate attack near Chittagong and get 1:1 (1151:729) results. Casualties look bad, 3,600 of us to 525 of them, but most of ours are disabled and theirs are destroyed. Plus 130 enemy vehicles are taken out (60 destroyed). The 48th and 55th are on the way and I'm sure they will be enough to take this stubborn hex given they are both at over 100% TOE and have 90+ experience.
DEI/N Australia
Obi, a dot base north of Ambon, is occupied as our SNLF Coy lands on it.
Pacific
Munda and Noumea both go to size 3 airfields. I'll stop both at size 4.
I had forgotten to turn of my Nells at Suva, and they flew a mission at Savaii, attacking the Samoa Detachment there. I didn't even know there were troops on that little island. I'll load up part of the 21st Division to take care of that island before moving on to Canton. Looks like a small unit that should be easy enough to take out.
China
Over Shaoyang, the Chinese put up a fight as 6 H81-A3's are on CAP. Thankfully we have escorts for our bombers and end up killing two of the H81's while losing no Oscars.
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Token air resistance in China[/center]
A single Chinese unit moved from Hengyang to Shaoyang yesterday. All of our artillery had relocated there, so we launch an attack with lots of artillery support and air support and easily send the 65th Chinese Corp running with a 123:1 result.
- FeurerKrieg
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RE: June 4th, 1942
I haven't had to invade any atolls since the amphib bonus ended. If you fail to take the base on the first day what happens?
- offenseman
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RE: June 4th, 1942
You just have to attack next turn. If it was unoccupied it will succeed the first time around. Amphib bonus doesn't hurt you against unoccupied atolls.
Sometimes things said in Nitwit sound very different in English.
- FeurerKrieg
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RE: June 4th, 1942
Yup, I've done plenty of unoccupied ones.
I've done occupied ones as well, but it was with the bonus. So if you don't take it, any additional troops and supplies will unload the next turn and join the attack, it sounds like.



