Resupply and Ammo Selection Usage Problem?

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Resupply and Ammo Selection Usage Problem?

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I just got done battling my way through the UR Campaign.

It was awesome! I can't believe my performance go me all the way to the Ruhr. I thought for sure I would've been sacked in France somewhere by my commanding general!

Here is my question situation.

I had a core platoon of M36s systematically taking out some JagdTigers without any problem. My crews had plenty of previous kills to their credit. They remained cool under the pressure; however they were getting low on ammo, but not out. They had enough HE, AP and APCR ammo to engage any target for a couple of turns.

Taking advantage of the lull in their sector, they began to replenish from the ammo truck in their area.

While this was going on, they were set upon by some Panthers during the AI turn, my defensive turn. My M36s, cought with their pants down replenishing began throwing any round they could into their breach. Remeber, they had plenty of AP and APCR rounds remaining before replenishing. Every round they fired was HE which merely caused the paint to scratch on the Panther's hulls.

By the end of the AI turn, I was down to 1 M36. I figured that the resupply had messed up with the crews ammo selection, so I moved the ammo truck away before engaging the Panthers again. No luck, the crew still fired HE. One shot later from the Panther, and my M36 platoon was history!

Luckily, I was able to hang on to a draw by the steadfast peformance of my infantry.

Has anyone else encountered the above problem with resupply and incorect ammo selection even when appropriate target type ammo was available? Or, was this a feature Wild Bill was able to incorporate into the campaign?

Thanks!
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Post by Warhorse »

Not sure, but it would make sense, as it always replenishes the HE first. It may have got caught in some loop or something. Did you fire at the Panthers right away after moving the ammo truck, or next turn? I have fired at units before with a ammo truck next to me, but it always has fired correct??!!

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Post by Black_Watch »

It was during the AI turn, my op fire phase, that M36s were firing the HE at the Panthers even though they had AP and APCR to choose from as well.

By my turn, I was down to one M36. I moved the supply truck before firing the M36.

When I started firing, the M36 only fired HE. There was plenty of AP and APCR ammo for the M36 to choose from

The M36 was destroyed before the end of my turn to see if the next opp fire phase would've been any different.

What was amazing was that this was occuring to all of the M36s next to the supply truck while they were alive during my first opp fire phase next to the supply truck.
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Post by ruxius »

If this can help you not to feel alone Italian wagon doesn't work at all...any sort of possible reason tested (suppression , enemy on sight , movement , ecc. )
I suppose a wagon is not designed for a specific ammo type ..so I can say it doesn't work...on the contrary Ammo dumps work fine and fast !
By now I will take a look at GE wagons..
P.s this has been found out from WB scenarios..
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Post by Bonzo »

IIRC, wagons are transport, not ammo carriers, therefore do not replenish ammo. Same story with mule teams.
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Post by ruxius »

Originally posted by Bonzo:
IIRC, wagons are transport, not ammo carriers, therefore do not replenish ammo. Same story with mule teams.
Bonzo you are right..I 've looked at the OOB and I found them classified as 'wagon' the same for pack mules..after that I asked to my english dictionary the translation for the English word Wagon..and I found what I expected..that means transport..but it seems from the translation it is not designed for humans but things..
even if I can consider wagons useful for human loading I am still wondering if it's so hard to think that basically they have been designated to be ammo carrier for rifles..I think that is much more reasonable for them ..In history they were used mainly for that purpose..that should be the right meanings fro wagons and especially for pack mules..
so I think that could be easily changed the OOB..obviously this has to be approved !

Please will you also help me in finding why
I can see in my OOB L6/40
(entries -230 -231 ecc )and ammo-carriers
but I can't see them in purchasing menu in according to their availability while I play a battle ?
Does it works in your copy of SPWAW for Italy ?
The problem is that except for ammo dumps I have no chance in to a battle to refuel my units playing the Italians...
I am waiting for your answer..thank you
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