Between the Storms
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RE: How to...
Thank YOU. I knew the 9999 part but not the other. That is an easy fix.
READERS: Michael has gotten nearly all the Allied changes for RA 7.0 completed. This will leave me to work on the Japan LCUs as well as check out the Naval Air and Kaigun.
READERS: Michael has gotten nearly all the Allied changes for RA 7.0 completed. This will leave me to work on the Japan LCUs as well as check out the Naval Air and Kaigun.

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Allied Air Groups
Had some time this morning and got the Allied Air Groups added. Here is a picture:


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RE: Allied Air Groups
Built an Australian Naval Air Line for the Melbourne. Set production of the various planes and their, unique, production path. QUERY: Do I need their 'factories' on the map or will the planes just come in as they get produced? I know with the Japanese I have to account for that but do I for the Aussies?

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Allied Air Groups
...last of the Allied Additions. Am now done with Ship Classes, Ships, and Air Groups. Have to attach art work and then this Mod is FINISHED!


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RE: Allied Air Groups
QUERY: Do I need their 'factories' on the map or will the planes just come in as they get produced? I know with the Japanese I have to account for that but do I for the Aussies?
With factories you will get that number of planes per month from them. For the Allies the main planes that use them are the P-38s after the "E" model. Since we have 5 factories, each newer model has the prior factory(s) upgrade to the newer one and steadily increases overall production rate.
If you have just a build rate of say 4 per month, then there is a possibility you will get less than the 4 or maybe more. I know with the F-4A recon of having a month when only 1 was built. Thus, there is some variability in the number you can get. The good thing here is the airframe would be produced even if Australia was totally captured by Japan.
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Think I will leave it like that then. Thanks Michael.
How goes it with you and the OOB?
How goes it with you and the OOB?

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Japanese OOB
DONE! The ships are all finished.
I spent 3-4 hours re-working the Japanese CAs/CLs as described at the beginning of the thread. Will Post examples later but it all looks good.
CA Final layout by class:
Myoko Class: Myoko, Nachi, Haguro, Ashigara, Seiki, Chishima, Miyako, and Yoshino
Takao Class: Takao, Atago, Maya, and Chokai
Hirado Class: Hirado, Suzuka, Chikuma (Building), and Otonase (Building): Improved Takao-Class.
14 to Start with 2 Building
CL Final Layout by class:
Kitakami Class (Training Cruisers): Kitakami and Oi: Armament downgraded.
Nagara Class: Nagara, Isuzu, Yura, Natori, Kinu, and Abukuma
Sendai Class: Naka, Sendai, Jintsu, and Minase
Aoba/Furutaka Classes: Furutaka, Kako, Aoba, and Kinugasa: rearmed with 3x3 6"
Mogami Class: Mogami, Mikuma, Suzuya, and Kumano: 5x3 6"
Tokoro Class: Tokoro. Teshio. Shiribetsu, Oyodo (B), Agano (B), Yahagi (B), Sakawa (B), and Noshiro (B): scaled back Mogami with 3x3 6"
23 to Start and 5 building
Converted to Fast Minelayers:
Tenryu, Tatsuta, Kuma, and Tama.
I spent 3-4 hours re-working the Japanese CAs/CLs as described at the beginning of the thread. Will Post examples later but it all looks good.
CA Final layout by class:
Myoko Class: Myoko, Nachi, Haguro, Ashigara, Seiki, Chishima, Miyako, and Yoshino
Takao Class: Takao, Atago, Maya, and Chokai
Hirado Class: Hirado, Suzuka, Chikuma (Building), and Otonase (Building): Improved Takao-Class.
14 to Start with 2 Building
CL Final Layout by class:
Kitakami Class (Training Cruisers): Kitakami and Oi: Armament downgraded.
Nagara Class: Nagara, Isuzu, Yura, Natori, Kinu, and Abukuma
Sendai Class: Naka, Sendai, Jintsu, and Minase
Aoba/Furutaka Classes: Furutaka, Kako, Aoba, and Kinugasa: rearmed with 3x3 6"
Mogami Class: Mogami, Mikuma, Suzuya, and Kumano: 5x3 6"
Tokoro Class: Tokoro. Teshio. Shiribetsu, Oyodo (B), Agano (B), Yahagi (B), Sakawa (B), and Noshiro (B): scaled back Mogami with 3x3 6"
23 to Start and 5 building
Converted to Fast Minelayers:
Tenryu, Tatsuta, Kuma, and Tama.

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Playtesters
Need a couple of highly thorough players who can look through all the changes and look for boo-boos.

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RE: Playtesters
I'm not highly thorough but I will take a look at it.
RE: Playtesters
Thanks guys.
This is/was my only day off so....therefore...I get called in. NEAT!
Let me do some art work attaching and will then send the files.
Juan: Do you think you could work your MAGIC regarding the off-map bases for aircraft purchasing with these files? We'll put it here, the new RA, and the Between the Storms Mods.
This is/was my only day off so....therefore...I get called in. NEAT!
Let me do some art work attaching and will then send the files.
Juan: Do you think you could work your MAGIC regarding the off-map bases for aircraft purchasing with these files? We'll put it here, the new RA, and the Between the Storms Mods.

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RE: Playtesters
Hey John, I'll take a look also. Let me know. GP
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RE: Playtesters
I'll be sending the files in morning. Looks good for ship art. Still need to check Red Lancer's work.

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RE: Playtesters
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
Thanks guys.
This is/was my only day off so....therefore...I get called in. NEAT!
Let me do some art work attaching and will then send the files.
Juan: Do you think you could work your MAGIC regarding the off-map bases for aircraft purchasing with these files? We'll put it here, the new RA, and the Between the Storms Mods.
I'd be happy to add the bases and base forces for them, though I would suggest planning out the squadrons and their costs before I add any of those or the leaders for them. I can throw some ideas your way on a spreadsheet about squadrons/numbers/costs when you send the files over.
RE: Playtesters
Deal! Am sending files this morning.

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RE: Playtesters
ORIGINAL: DOCUP
I'm not highly thorough but I will take a look at it.
DOCUP: My address book lost your dratted email. Could you write me and I'll send the files?
Michael, Juan, and Brian have the files currently.

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RE: Between the Storms
Hello John, I found something interesting about Japanese carriers on Japanese wiki page of Unryu class
当時の航空本部総務部長であった大西瀧治郎を中心としてまとめた『航空母艦整備方針に関する意見書』に書かれた案では、
艦橋:隼鷹型に準じたアイランド型
速力:28ノット
航続距離:15,000/18kt
搭載機:烈風24機・流星24機・彩雲6機の計54機
搭載機装備:魚雷は基本的に搭載せず、500kg爆弾のみ73個を搭載。臨時搭載の場合は、調整済の物を格納庫側壁に24本格納
防御:爆薬庫には100mmのCNC鋼板を使用するが、機銃弾火薬庫や機関室及び甲板も防御せず、代わりにできるだけ多くの逃避口を設ける
対空:高角砲を設けず、出来る限り25mm3連装機銃を装備
After the defeat of midway, someone in IJN suggested to build a simplified wartime carrier instead of more complex Unryu class.
Bridge : similar to Hiyo class
Max speed : 28kt
Endurance : 15000nm/18kt
Aircraft : A7M x 24, B7A x 24, C6N x 6, 54 in total
Bomb storage : 500kg bomb x 73 torpedo x 24
Protection : only 100mmCNC for ammunition, other place non protection at all
Antiair : no flak , only some 25mmAA
The carriers of this class could be built in less than a year and come in greater number.
I think it might be fun to see these ships in the game. Additionally, I always feel a little bit weird that players can easily accelerate the Unryu class.
Since this is a "What if" scenario, maybe you can consider to put them into the mod to replace Unryu class? Just my personal opinion.
当時の航空本部総務部長であった大西瀧治郎を中心としてまとめた『航空母艦整備方針に関する意見書』に書かれた案では、
艦橋:隼鷹型に準じたアイランド型
速力:28ノット
航続距離:15,000/18kt
搭載機:烈風24機・流星24機・彩雲6機の計54機
搭載機装備:魚雷は基本的に搭載せず、500kg爆弾のみ73個を搭載。臨時搭載の場合は、調整済の物を格納庫側壁に24本格納
防御:爆薬庫には100mmのCNC鋼板を使用するが、機銃弾火薬庫や機関室及び甲板も防御せず、代わりにできるだけ多くの逃避口を設ける
対空:高角砲を設けず、出来る限り25mm3連装機銃を装備
After the defeat of midway, someone in IJN suggested to build a simplified wartime carrier instead of more complex Unryu class.
Bridge : similar to Hiyo class
Max speed : 28kt
Endurance : 15000nm/18kt
Aircraft : A7M x 24, B7A x 24, C6N x 6, 54 in total
Bomb storage : 500kg bomb x 73 torpedo x 24
Protection : only 100mmCNC for ammunition, other place non protection at all
Antiair : no flak , only some 25mmAA
The carriers of this class could be built in less than a year and come in greater number.
I think it might be fun to see these ships in the game. Additionally, I always feel a little bit weird that players can easily accelerate the Unryu class.
Since this is a "What if" scenario, maybe you can consider to put them into the mod to replace Unryu class? Just my personal opinion.
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RE: Between the Storms
Less than a year? Uh-huh. How big was this thing supposed to be?
Also, they'd have ammunition for ONE air strike and the survivability of a soap bubble in a hurricane.
Also, they'd have ammunition for ONE air strike and the survivability of a soap bubble in a hurricane.
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RE: Between the Storms
Late war question. Does the US continue to build the ships that were historically cancelled or slowed in 45? If the war isn't going as well these ships would have been built. Same question for aircraft being built. What about the A-1 Skyraider? Did you correct the US Bogue? CVE that when they do their update all the AA guns end up as 2 blocks on the RS instead 1 block on each side?
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