[DWU] Balance Mod v0.9 (extended TechTree) [Cancelled in protest]

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RE: [DWU] Balance Mod v0.9 - 171 new projects (extended TechTree) [WIP]

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never mind :) [:D]
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ORIGINAL: Locarnus

If my landlord paints my walls black during maintenance,
I would question my mental health if I would continue to put an effort into activities which support the landlord...

Not the same scenario.

Imagine fifty people live in one room, and all but one or two of them hate the color. The landlord or whoever repaints it a new color which most of them really like, aside from the aforementioned stragglers. Did the landlord do the right thing?

Another example; a bride is getting married and needs it to not rain, and a farmer a mile away needs it to rain. No matter what happens, one person will be outta' luck.
If it doesnt bother you, others who are bothered have no right to complain or their complaints are absurd. What a great perspective.

Complain away until you go blue in the face by all means, I hope you get what you want. But don't go out of your way to sabotage both your development of a community favorite and potential development by other people "Because it's mine".
I wonder if you made those comments to people who complained about the small fonts, having 4k monitors themselves. Or telling them that their complaints are absurd and that they should buy a new low res monitor.

I've honestly never seen anyone else complain about this before, and to be quite frank I didn't even notice the difference :P
Or imagine the other way around, they started with a font size for 2K full HD monitors, and then they changed it to fit for 1K HD ready monitors. Would the people with 2K monitors have a right to complain?

Request there be accommodations made on their behalf? Yes.

Whine and be a baby? No.
They could still play the game, just sit 20cm away from the monitor for comfortable reading...

I use a 4K 50" TV as my monitor, and both sizes were/are fine. It's really not a huge deal man.
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Guy's be friendly and let it be.[;)] He dont want to work on the mod anymore. Its not be better if you all trie to "outcomment" him. Let us hope he gives other modder the permission to use his work, if so it's wonderful, if not maybe an other modder start a similiar mod from ground on. So it is the best to end this here.

Thank you Locarnus for your work.[:)]
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Post by Efaferal »

Locarnus,

Too bad to see you quit. The Tech tree is much improved with your mod. I hate to see that a minor visual difference is causing such a problem. Adjusting/choosing fonts is a rather easy setup task, although quite tedious in some instances. Perhaps if you show some screen shots of the problems that occur with the new fonts it would give a good basis for how to proceed?

If you choose not to proceed, I just want to say 'Thanks!' for all your hard work. The fact is that I was only mildly interested in Distant Worlds until I started working with your mod, but your work has definitely inspired me and moved DW onto my Classic Games list.

-E
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RE: [DWU] Balance Mod v0.9 - 171 new projects (extended TechTree) [WIP]

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At the very least, could someone else carry the flag for this mod?
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I'd love this mod being compatible with the latest patch. Because the new fonts are superb, and your mod is superb aswell, and the game in generall is superb and I want to enjoy it at it's maximum potential.
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RE: [DWU] Balance Mod v0.9 - 171 new projects (extended TechTree) [WIP]

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Somebody is just going to have to start this over..
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Already working on my own version of an extended tech tree, based on the AI improvement mod. Just give me a week or two since i am currently moving into a new house.
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ORIGINAL: Chestburster

Already working on my own version of an extended tech tree, based on the AI improvement mod. Just give me a week or two since i am currently moving into a new house.

I think you need to figure out your priorities! The Universe is waiting for you, and your new house is taking priority?! Sheesh!! [:D]
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ORIGINAL: Chestburster

Already working on my own version of an extended tech tree, based on the AI improvement mod. Just give me a week or two since i am currently moving into a new house.
That would be awesome! May I recommend the modification made by this mod... tm.asp?m=3647782

I think that choice access of planet type at the beginning would be nice and realistic.
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RE: [DWU] Balance Mod v0.9 - 171 new projects (extended TechTree) [WIP]

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This complaint is ridiculously insane all they did was increase font size to better way
its not like they changed the color of your house
its more like your glasses are old and have scratches all over we will change them to new ones so you could see better for free
wow seriously i am amazed by this dude its more like he is attention whore then anything else
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It more or less sounds like he is butthurt about something EA did and inaccurately compared that to this. I imagine ANY change that was made that he didn't like would have caused him to act like this. I'm also 100% certain that had the font been what it is now in the original and then made to be smaller he would have complained about it being changed. There's nothing we can do unfortunately. There are people like this all over the world. I DO think this is still compatible "for now" since extended wasn't updated. IF you have downloaded a copy of .87 extended before he took it down you should be fine.
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RE: [DWU] Balance Mod v0.9 - 171 new projects (extended TechTree) [WIP]

Post by Locarnus »

Thanks for the support of those interested in the mod.





Unfortunately some of the remarks in this thread have turned aggressive and depreciatory.

"Attention whore", "butthurt" in the last 2 posts...

I explained my reasons and while belittling was part of the ensuing exchange from the beginning, it didnt abate but rather turned uglier, coupled with some speculation about myself.

Which will not continue, at least not in this thread. [8|]


@ponasozis:
The discussion about the status of the project and the reasons for this status may be on topic, flaming/personal insults certainly are not.
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There isn't really much of a discussion to have. It's your mod to work on, and whether you choose to do so is your own decision to make.

However, one way to look at this is...you view the change as negative.. yet you are choosing to negatively impact the game by not developing content which was viewed as a pretty big improvement. So in an obscure sense you are contributing to the problem.

Yes a lot of our responses were flammatory in nature, but we are the guys on the opposite end of a U MAD BRO?! comment because a lot of us were looking forward to the completion of the mod, and this was taken from us by the modders obsession with a minor change in the game. You won't even allow anyone to take up the project themselves and finish it. It just seems rather selfish and to me at least, misguided. I was so hyped up about playing the game with a vastly expanded tech tree that I had decided I'd rather wait for it to be done than play without. Still haven't played, though I've also been busy IRL I admit. The most I've played of DW since I heard about this mod has been a couple pirate games, and some testing for DWOM.

At least from what I've seen the majority of your "audience" does not agree with your reasoning for taking down the mod. And the comparisons you gave were not valid in that they are not really a similar situation. A landlord painting your walls black is not the same as a game developer releasing an update that increases the font(albeit a small increase).

Mod aside, I suggest taking a look at what you are protesting and reassess whether it's THAT big of a deal. This is a great game, and your acting like the font change is game breaking when it isn't.
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RE: [DWU] Balance Mod v0.9 - 171 new projects (extended TechTree) [WIP]

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Is a font change that big of a deal? Can you please at least let one of us continue on the work?
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RE: [DWU] Balance Mod v0.9 - 171 new projects (extended TechTree) [WIP]

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That would totally defeat the purpose of the strike.

When taxi drivers strike, they dont let other people use their taxis to ferry passengers.
The taxi drivers strike because they want to continue as taxi drivers, they are just unhappy about the changed conditions.
And after protesting with words (which I did weeks ago), a strike is the last resort.
It is a pretty basic mechanic in the culture I come from.

But of course the comparison is inaccurate, since I do unpaid/voluntary work and provide a luxury good, not a basic one as one would assume based on some of the reactions to the strike here.
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ok man, its a video game. Someone else will have to reinvent the wheel which sucks :(
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This thread is ridiculous.
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Post by PsyKoSnake »

If I am a bee, a turtle, a truck driver, a sexy asian japanesse...
Damn it! Dont make a good story to justify my action...
Yeah, I have an Idea. The king of england organize a party, He paint my wall Black, then a war start between france and england...Because It's not the room of the king. IT's my room, and I am the king of France. Why does the king of england have the right to paint the wall black. Then a sexy asian japaness demand a meeting with the king of england. No she is my girlfriend and she will fall in love with me. (her favorite color is black)
Ha yes! I should use the word landlord It make more sense!
Maybe if I include a Taxi in my Story as well. Now they will understand.


To be continued...

PS, It's a joke. You have the right to stop working on your mod. Take care and I hope you come back someday, when they fix your issue.
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