Greyjoy(J) vs. Obvert(A) - The air war in China- DBB, SLs, PDU OFF
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Bullwinkle58
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RE: Carriers in the I.O.
I agree. Take everything in India which a typical game has in China, and it's a different picture.
The Moose
RE: Carriers in the I.O.
July 7, 1942
The news, and it's a big one, is that the 60th Chinese Corp seems to be retiring from the contested hex on the rivercrossing SW of Kweyiang!!! I ordered a shock attack. No matter what.Fatigue and distruption can wait. Supplies can wait. We need on their heels and not let another corp to take its place. If it is really moving that means no embedded forts are left. Time to push. And Army HQ (the 12th) and 2 IDs are immediately ordered to reinforce that sector, along with 2 more tank regiments.
Also ordered another attacknorth of Changsha. Let's see if we can wear down those pesky chinese
In india, the redeployment around Patna is working fine.
Still waitingat Hyderabad the arrival of the enemy's stack. The further he gets from his main bases, the harder will be for him to cover his units with LRCAP. Waiting for that moment to start the LCU bombing.
In the pacific, the allied attentions divert to Ocean Island. I expect a landing very soon there...
Also waiting for a movement against Ndeni in SOPAC
2 Brigades are ordered to the Kuriles. Shimushiri Jiima and Onnekotan Jiima will be their destinations.
A Nate sentai is upgraded to the KI-43 IIa in Japan. This is the last Sentai that can fit this model (3 sentais). The dreaded 260th Sentai (stuck with the KI-43 Ib) will be moved back for training duties untill we understand how to fix that problem
The news, and it's a big one, is that the 60th Chinese Corp seems to be retiring from the contested hex on the rivercrossing SW of Kweyiang!!! I ordered a shock attack. No matter what.Fatigue and distruption can wait. Supplies can wait. We need on their heels and not let another corp to take its place. If it is really moving that means no embedded forts are left. Time to push. And Army HQ (the 12th) and 2 IDs are immediately ordered to reinforce that sector, along with 2 more tank regiments.
Also ordered another attacknorth of Changsha. Let's see if we can wear down those pesky chinese
In india, the redeployment around Patna is working fine.
Still waitingat Hyderabad the arrival of the enemy's stack. The further he gets from his main bases, the harder will be for him to cover his units with LRCAP. Waiting for that moment to start the LCU bombing.
In the pacific, the allied attentions divert to Ocean Island. I expect a landing very soon there...
Also waiting for a movement against Ndeni in SOPAC
2 Brigades are ordered to the Kuriles. Shimushiri Jiima and Onnekotan Jiima will be their destinations.
A Nate sentai is upgraded to the KI-43 IIa in Japan. This is the last Sentai that can fit this model (3 sentais). The dreaded 260th Sentai (stuck with the KI-43 Ib) will be moved back for training duties untill we understand how to fix that problem
RE: Carriers in the I.O.
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
I agree. Take everything in India which a typical game has in China, and it's a different picture.
I am alreadt losing india... not so sure the strategy was as smart as it seemed
RE: Carriers in the I.O.
July 8, 1942
China: both our attacks didn't go as planned.
The shock attack with my tanks achieved only a 1-1 and several squads of the tank ID are now disabled. Supplies must be hurting in order to achieve such a bad result.
Same goes north of Changsha. Our 4 divisions of the 11th Army attacked and got a 1-2 with more than 300 squads disabled....[:o]
India: we bombed the advancing stack from 27,000 feet in order to avoid the flak and see what he has there. Nothing to really worry about.
The 70th UK Div (that still has those useless 41 brit squads), the Waristan division (another weak unit), the 6th and 7th Australian Divisions (pretty good) and several 3.7 inch gun units. If i only had some more IDs with me in India instead of China i could defeat them easily...
However Hyderabad is nowehere in danger of being conquered. Very well. We'll act accordingly.
A 12 A6M3 chutai and a 36 KI-45a Sentai just arrived at Calcutta from Rangoon. The 3rd Air Army will move to Calcutta too in a couple of weeks, while the 1st Air Army is being moved to Madras.
Sending reinforcements to Diego and Attu. Wanna have my flank well covered.
RnD: in 3 days we'll start producing the A6M3a!!!! that's good.
China: both our attacks didn't go as planned.
The shock attack with my tanks achieved only a 1-1 and several squads of the tank ID are now disabled. Supplies must be hurting in order to achieve such a bad result.
Same goes north of Changsha. Our 4 divisions of the 11th Army attacked and got a 1-2 with more than 300 squads disabled....[:o]
India: we bombed the advancing stack from 27,000 feet in order to avoid the flak and see what he has there. Nothing to really worry about.
The 70th UK Div (that still has those useless 41 brit squads), the Waristan division (another weak unit), the 6th and 7th Australian Divisions (pretty good) and several 3.7 inch gun units. If i only had some more IDs with me in India instead of China i could defeat them easily...
However Hyderabad is nowehere in danger of being conquered. Very well. We'll act accordingly.
A 12 A6M3 chutai and a 36 KI-45a Sentai just arrived at Calcutta from Rangoon. The 3rd Air Army will move to Calcutta too in a couple of weeks, while the 1st Air Army is being moved to Madras.
Sending reinforcements to Diego and Attu. Wanna have my flank well covered.
RnD: in 3 days we'll start producing the A6M3a!!!! that's good.
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HansBolter
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RE: Carriers in the I.O.
The Brit 70Th may have outdated squads but it also has 80 experience....one of the most experienced LCUs in the Allied inventory.
Hans
RE: Carriers in the I.O.
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
The Brit 70Th may have outdated squads but it also has 80 experience....one of the most experienced LCUs in the Allied inventory.
Plus as it withdraws out of theater, it's a unit I don't care if it gets smashed or not as long as it gets smashed doing something useful.
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RE: Carriers in the I.O.
They ain't that useless, pal. 300 of them AV just as well as 300 USMC '45 squads. They shoot darn near as good as the Brit top-of-the-line squads. Only place they fall short is they don't have PIATs (till they upgrade) so anti-armor is only 15 per squad instead of 75. Still and all, a 410 AV potential, at 80 experience, a poop-load of AT guns, and arty up the wazoo, should get one's attention. Just sayin' [8D]ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
The 70th UK Div (that still has those useless 41 brit squads), ....
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Bullwinkle58
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RE: Carriers in the I.O.
ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
I agree. Take everything in India which a typical game has in China, and it's a different picture.
I am alreadt losing india... not so sure the strategy was as smart as it seemed
Well, yeah, but that's a different issue. [:)]
The Moose
RE: Carriers in the I.O.
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
I agree. Take everything in India which a typical game has in China, and it's a different picture.
I am alreadt losing india... not so sure the strategy was as smart as it seemed
Well, yeah, but that's a different issue. [:)]
I think it depends on what you do with the time that India buys you.
RE: Carriers in the I.O.
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
I am alreadt losing india... not so sure the strategy was as smart as it seemed
Well, yeah, but that's a different issue. [:)]
I think it depends on what you do with the time that India buys you.
No, India is a total supply burn for Japan. This is the issue. Burning massive amount of supply to fight restricted units that can't hurt you anywhere else at this stage of the war. There is a finite amount of supply and fuel to get Japan through the war. China can't be avoided but India can. I think that two major supply burn fronts is not sustainable for Japan. There needs to be something left to fight with in 1945. I can only see one real reason to venture into India, auto victory. Otherwise I don't know if it makes sense at all.
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RE: Carriers in the I.O.
Maybe a limited offensive in India in the Calcutta basin up to Darjeeling? Thus, you rob the Allies from any air base they can resupply China from while you conquer the Chinese.
RE: Carriers in the I.O.
June 9-11, 1942
CHINA: the tanks break through!At the third attempt they manage to shock and inflict a 10-1 defeat to the chinese corp! Now the mountain hex is hours and we can expand the bridgehead. Problem is now that he is smartly trying to cut the supply lines (which are clearly fragile). Enemy troops are spotted moving from Tyung area westwards and also troops are spotted in a flanking manouvre on both sides of my tanks. We don't care. We'll keep on pushing through, just like Rommell's "Ghost Division" in France in 1940 [:)]
We've also decided to make a decisive effort against Chikkiang and Kweilling. It's now or never.
Sending several units to the west so to reinforce the tanks' efforts and to keep the LOCs safe.
INDIA: The stack has arrived at Hyderabad. I got what you say guys about the 70th UK ID. Probably i understimated it a bit, but i never had any clear success with british divisions in 1942... i always felt them simply too weak. But maybe i am now wrong and will lose this decisive battle...we'll soon see i guess.
India is costy in terms of supplies, sure. My strategy was to bag a lot of supplies and fuel and exploit its heavy industry as long as possible (possible till 1.1.1943). Unfortunately it didn't work (HIs was everywhere wreckd and ddn't find any stock in the base i conquered), so the whole strategy changed: now India is a way too keep the allies far from Burma and from China, so to be able to starve it and isolate it. However i do not plan to remain there forever. 6 more months is what i want. Then we can turtle back at Ceylon and in Burma.
The last KI-44a group (3 out of 3) has arrived at Calcutta today from Burma. Will be based at Patna, while the other 2 will operate at Hyderabad
DIEGO: on the 11th, suddenly, a DDTF pops up from the CT Channel. No air cover. No CVs. Just British DDs. 33 Vals took off from Diego. 2 DDs were sunk while 3 escaped. I need to put more efforts here. Accelerating the process of sending reinforcements to Attu and Diego.
CENTPAC:... quiet
SOPAC: ...deadly quiet
OZ:...even boring [:D]
RnD: A6M3a is online! Production is already up to 210/month!
CHINA: the tanks break through!At the third attempt they manage to shock and inflict a 10-1 defeat to the chinese corp! Now the mountain hex is hours and we can expand the bridgehead. Problem is now that he is smartly trying to cut the supply lines (which are clearly fragile). Enemy troops are spotted moving from Tyung area westwards and also troops are spotted in a flanking manouvre on both sides of my tanks. We don't care. We'll keep on pushing through, just like Rommell's "Ghost Division" in France in 1940 [:)]
We've also decided to make a decisive effort against Chikkiang and Kweilling. It's now or never.
Sending several units to the west so to reinforce the tanks' efforts and to keep the LOCs safe.
INDIA: The stack has arrived at Hyderabad. I got what you say guys about the 70th UK ID. Probably i understimated it a bit, but i never had any clear success with british divisions in 1942... i always felt them simply too weak. But maybe i am now wrong and will lose this decisive battle...we'll soon see i guess.
India is costy in terms of supplies, sure. My strategy was to bag a lot of supplies and fuel and exploit its heavy industry as long as possible (possible till 1.1.1943). Unfortunately it didn't work (HIs was everywhere wreckd and ddn't find any stock in the base i conquered), so the whole strategy changed: now India is a way too keep the allies far from Burma and from China, so to be able to starve it and isolate it. However i do not plan to remain there forever. 6 more months is what i want. Then we can turtle back at Ceylon and in Burma.
The last KI-44a group (3 out of 3) has arrived at Calcutta today from Burma. Will be based at Patna, while the other 2 will operate at Hyderabad
DIEGO: on the 11th, suddenly, a DDTF pops up from the CT Channel. No air cover. No CVs. Just British DDs. 33 Vals took off from Diego. 2 DDs were sunk while 3 escaped. I need to put more efforts here. Accelerating the process of sending reinforcements to Attu and Diego.
CENTPAC:... quiet
SOPAC: ...deadly quiet
OZ:...even boring [:D]
RnD: A6M3a is online! Production is already up to 210/month!
RE: Carriers in the I.O.
Jul 12, 42
A day of lights and shadows.
In Burma we defeated the last 2 indian brigades that survived at the japanese advance. We conquered Ramree Island and another one (well, what was left of it after a chase that lasted 3 months in the jungle).
In India we're waiting for the next allied advance.
I think he will try to use paras again, possibly against Viz. Taking the necessary countermeasures immediately.
In China everything went bad.
Our tanks finally stopped their victorious advance. No way to proceed for the moment. Too few AVs. Too few supplies. Simply too many enemies.
South of Chikkiang things didn't go any better. Another bloody nose. We're now waiting for the 1st Tank ID to change the equation here.
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Ground combat at 78,51 (near Chihkiang)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 32519 troops, 386 guns, 578 vehicles, Assault Value = 989
Defending force 36956 troops, 163 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1099
Japanese adjusted assault: 542
Allied adjusted defense: 2674
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 4
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1863 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 199 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Allied ground losses:
1130 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 108 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Assaulting units:
13th Tank Regiment
15th Division
34th Division
23rd Tank Regiment
10th Tank Regiment
13th Army
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
4th Mortar Battalion
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
Defending units:
73rd Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
70th Chinese Corps
86th Chinese Corps
7th Artillery Regiment
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Ground combat at 60,43 (near Katha)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 5424 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 209
Defending force 373 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2
Japanese adjusted assault: 23
Allied adjusted defense: 1
Japanese assault odds: 23 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(-), morale(-)
Allied ground losses:
399 casualties reported
Squads: 25 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 53 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
2nd RTA Division
Defending units:
16th Indian Brigade
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Ground combat at Ramree Island (54,48)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 7563 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 329
Defending force 2571 troops, 6 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value = 72
Japanese adjusted assault: 118
Allied adjusted defense: 15
Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Ramree Island !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 39 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Allied ground losses:
2369 casualties reported
Squads: 136 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 153 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 16 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 64 (64 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2
Assaulting units:
6th RTA Division
3rd RTA/B Division
Defending units:
46th Indian Brigade
208th RAF Adv Base Force
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Ground combat at 72,49 (near Kweiyang)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 8232 troops, 122 guns, 598 vehicles, Assault Value = 426
Defending force 46542 troops, 309 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1596
Japanese adjusted assault: 306
Allied adjusted defense: 2459
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 8
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
195 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 55 (3 destroyed, 52 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
354 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Assaulting units:
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
Guards Tank Division
Defending units:
7th Chinese Corps
14th Chinese Corps
66th Chinese Corps
1st Group Army
1st Artillery Regiment
18th Artillery Regiment
A day of lights and shadows.
In Burma we defeated the last 2 indian brigades that survived at the japanese advance. We conquered Ramree Island and another one (well, what was left of it after a chase that lasted 3 months in the jungle).
In India we're waiting for the next allied advance.
I think he will try to use paras again, possibly against Viz. Taking the necessary countermeasures immediately.
In China everything went bad.
Our tanks finally stopped their victorious advance. No way to proceed for the moment. Too few AVs. Too few supplies. Simply too many enemies.
South of Chikkiang things didn't go any better. Another bloody nose. We're now waiting for the 1st Tank ID to change the equation here.
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Ground combat at 78,51 (near Chihkiang)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 32519 troops, 386 guns, 578 vehicles, Assault Value = 989
Defending force 36956 troops, 163 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1099
Japanese adjusted assault: 542
Allied adjusted defense: 2674
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 4
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1863 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 199 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Allied ground losses:
1130 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 108 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Assaulting units:
13th Tank Regiment
15th Division
34th Division
23rd Tank Regiment
10th Tank Regiment
13th Army
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
4th Mortar Battalion
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
Defending units:
73rd Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
70th Chinese Corps
86th Chinese Corps
7th Artillery Regiment
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Ground combat at 60,43 (near Katha)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 5424 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 209
Defending force 373 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2
Japanese adjusted assault: 23
Allied adjusted defense: 1
Japanese assault odds: 23 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(-), morale(-)
Allied ground losses:
399 casualties reported
Squads: 25 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 53 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
2nd RTA Division
Defending units:
16th Indian Brigade
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Ground combat at Ramree Island (54,48)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 7563 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 329
Defending force 2571 troops, 6 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value = 72
Japanese adjusted assault: 118
Allied adjusted defense: 15
Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Ramree Island !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 39 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Allied ground losses:
2369 casualties reported
Squads: 136 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 153 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 16 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 64 (64 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2
Assaulting units:
6th RTA Division
3rd RTA/B Division
Defending units:
46th Indian Brigade
208th RAF Adv Base Force
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Ground combat at 72,49 (near Kweiyang)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 8232 troops, 122 guns, 598 vehicles, Assault Value = 426
Defending force 46542 troops, 309 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1596
Japanese adjusted assault: 306
Allied adjusted defense: 2459
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 8
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
195 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 55 (3 destroyed, 52 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
354 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Assaulting units:
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
Guards Tank Division
Defending units:
7th Chinese Corps
14th Chinese Corps
66th Chinese Corps
1st Group Army
1st Artillery Regiment
18th Artillery Regiment
RE: Carriers in the I.O.
We're now risking another statlemate in China. I need to keep on pushing inorder to move the front,but Erik simply has too many units in too good terrain to hope to advance fast. The heavy artillery can do wonders, but only when he's low on supply. Unfortunately he seems to be in a pretty good situation supply-wise. My mistake. I let him dig in there for too long...
Fast transports keep on moving in CentPac and Sopac. We'll soon have to deal with these two threatening vectors.
Another CV went for upgrades. Zuikaku now.
Producing 7 A6M3a every day. The first units will be able to upgrade very soon
Fast transports keep on moving in CentPac and Sopac. We'll soon have to deal with these two threatening vectors.
Another CV went for upgrades. Zuikaku now.
Producing 7 A6M3a every day. The first units will be able to upgrade very soon
RE: Carriers in the I.O.
ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
We're now risking another statlemate in China. I need to keep on pushing inorder to move the front,but Erik simply has too many units in too good terrain to hope to advance fast. The heavy artillery can do wonders, but only when he's low on supply. Unfortunately he seems to be in a pretty good situation supply-wise. My mistake. I let him dig in there for too long...
Fast transports keep on moving in CentPac and Sopac. We'll soon have to deal with these two threatening vectors.
Another CV went for upgrades. Zuikaku now.
Producing 7 A6M3a every day. The first units will be able to upgrade very soon
At some point you need decided what you like to have more ? China or China industry
You should remember that Nick & Lilly are great for LI destruction RE: Carriers in the I.O.
ORIGINAL: MrKane
ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
We're now risking another statlemate in China. I need to keep on pushing inorder to move the front,but Erik simply has too many units in too good terrain to hope to advance fast. The heavy artillery can do wonders, but only when he's low on supply. Unfortunately he seems to be in a pretty good situation supply-wise. My mistake. I let him dig in there for too long...
Fast transports keep on moving in CentPac and Sopac. We'll soon have to deal with these two threatening vectors.
Another CV went for upgrades. Zuikaku now.
Producing 7 A6M3a every day. The first units will be able to upgrade very soon
At some point you need decided what you like to have more ? China or China industry
[:D] I remember very well!
The point is that we have an HR that restrict strat bombing only to manpower, so the efforts needed to really destroy the chinese industry would be massive. At the same time, yes, i still have hopes to conquer some more of those precious LIs and HIs intact, so i really don't wanna intact them...not if i am not really forced to do it.
RE: Carriers in the I.O.
Jul 13-20, 42
Turns are slow recently. I am on vacation and my GF reached me here, so i have very little time to play (mainly when she's taking a shower or she's sleeping late in the morning) and even less to update the AAR...
Seven days have passed.
CHINA: more failed attacks at Kweilling and South of Chikkiang. Am not able to break through his lines, despite the heavy air bombing and the extra supplies delivered to the front. Erik is doing great in China and i strongly suggest everyone who complains about the impossibility to defend China in DBB to take a look at what he's doing here...
INDIA: the allies keep on applyin pressure here, bombing my undefended bases and i smell them paradropping in Assam very soon...
CENTPAC: the Empire tried to ambush the several convoys moving to the Gilberts. Spotted a big Cruiser TF on the 19th, along with several transport TFs. My KB was hiding in the shades... decided for a full-speed run....
Everything seemed perfect...
But weather, once again, kicked in.
Storms above the main allied bases (where i had planned several sweeps) and bad weather in the afternoon over my two CVTFs...
only small strikes in the morning... bad luck...
bagged some minor ships, but that's all...not a single warship attacked...
(((
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Ground combat at 78,51 (near Chihkiang)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 39295 troops, 414 guns, 226 vehicles, Assault Value = 1161
Defending force 41383 troops, 130 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1260
Japanese adjusted assault: 749
Allied adjusted defense: 2356
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
4375 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 389 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 38 disabled
Guns lost 36 (1 destroyed, 35 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1040 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 120 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Assaulting units:
6th Division
34th Division
60th Division
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
13th Army
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
4th Mortar Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
Defending units:
84th Chinese Corps
70th Chinese Corps
73rd Chinese Corps
86th Chinese Corps
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tabiteuea at 137,134
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
B5N2 Kate x 61
D3A1 Val x 72
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
xAKL Masayas, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS Boggs, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
APD Manley, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DMS Lamberton, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
APD Colhoun, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Zaandam, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Zealandia, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAKL Teapa
APD Schley, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
APD Litchfield
xAKL Matagalpa, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
Allied ground losses:
2615 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 72 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 18 destroyed, 9 disabled
Vehicles lost 15 (13 destroyed, 2 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Nikunau at 139,134
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
B5N2 Kate x 13
D3A1 Val x 15
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
xAK Robert Morris, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires
AM Turkey, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AVD Chincoteague, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Hirondelle, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tabiteuea at 137,134
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 7
B5N2 Kate x 12
D3A1 Val x 27
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
xAP Zaandam, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
Allied ground losses:
1936 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 133 destroyed, 45 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 18 (17 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 37 (35 destroyed, 2 disabled)
And that's all... tons of fuel wasted... lots of damage points accumulated...for some old xAPs...(((
Japan is reinforcing Port Hedland and Exmouth, while lots of units are getting to India. Planning to send there 4 Divisions ASAP
Turns are slow recently. I am on vacation and my GF reached me here, so i have very little time to play (mainly when she's taking a shower or she's sleeping late in the morning) and even less to update the AAR...
Seven days have passed.
CHINA: more failed attacks at Kweilling and South of Chikkiang. Am not able to break through his lines, despite the heavy air bombing and the extra supplies delivered to the front. Erik is doing great in China and i strongly suggest everyone who complains about the impossibility to defend China in DBB to take a look at what he's doing here...
INDIA: the allies keep on applyin pressure here, bombing my undefended bases and i smell them paradropping in Assam very soon...
CENTPAC: the Empire tried to ambush the several convoys moving to the Gilberts. Spotted a big Cruiser TF on the 19th, along with several transport TFs. My KB was hiding in the shades... decided for a full-speed run....
Everything seemed perfect...
But weather, once again, kicked in.
Storms above the main allied bases (where i had planned several sweeps) and bad weather in the afternoon over my two CVTFs...
only small strikes in the morning... bad luck...
bagged some minor ships, but that's all...not a single warship attacked...
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Ground combat at 78,51 (near Chihkiang)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 39295 troops, 414 guns, 226 vehicles, Assault Value = 1161
Defending force 41383 troops, 130 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1260
Japanese adjusted assault: 749
Allied adjusted defense: 2356
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
4375 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 389 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 38 disabled
Guns lost 36 (1 destroyed, 35 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1040 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 120 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Assaulting units:
6th Division
34th Division
60th Division
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
13th Army
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
4th Mortar Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
Defending units:
84th Chinese Corps
70th Chinese Corps
73rd Chinese Corps
86th Chinese Corps
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tabiteuea at 137,134
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
B5N2 Kate x 61
D3A1 Val x 72
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
xAKL Masayas, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS Boggs, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
APD Manley, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DMS Lamberton, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
APD Colhoun, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Zaandam, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Zealandia, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAKL Teapa
APD Schley, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
APD Litchfield
xAKL Matagalpa, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
Allied ground losses:
2615 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 72 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 18 destroyed, 9 disabled
Vehicles lost 15 (13 destroyed, 2 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Nikunau at 139,134
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
B5N2 Kate x 13
D3A1 Val x 15
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
xAK Robert Morris, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires
AM Turkey, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AVD Chincoteague, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Hirondelle, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tabiteuea at 137,134
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 7
B5N2 Kate x 12
D3A1 Val x 27
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
xAP Zaandam, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
Allied ground losses:
1936 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 133 destroyed, 45 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 18 (17 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 37 (35 destroyed, 2 disabled)
And that's all... tons of fuel wasted... lots of damage points accumulated...for some old xAPs...
(((Japan is reinforcing Port Hedland and Exmouth, while lots of units are getting to India. Planning to send there 4 Divisions ASAP
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RE: Carriers in the I.O.
My KB was hiding in the shades... decided for a full-speed run....
Your slang needs correcting here. [;)] It should be "shadows" and not "shades."
China - I would look for some shattered divisions or brigades that you can buy out cheaply to be re-deployed to other areas. You know you need to garrison too many bases with the troops you have and China is the best place to get them from.
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