You have a very unique playing style I must admit and you really love those jammers! [:D] I just put the kabosh on the northern Nail Airbase. I also sent a harm attack after the PT boats in my path but only one got hit. I'm now jamming them with my helo to try and get close enough for harpoons. They have a 25 mile advantage with their missiles, but I think I've got better attack/defense munitions and should win a shootout. And, yes, I'll save the southern bases for last with some Harms, but there are about 3 new PB's that just showed up around the Landing area. Subs are too slow to take them out so I'll arm up a few of the Harriers for attack also.
Will continue tomorrow however as right now I'm calling it a night. Audace! [;)]
SIDE: NAIL
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LOSSES:
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8x F-16C Blk 42 Falcon [Peace Vector II Upgr]
1x E-2C Hawkeye Group II
3x Mirage F.1CH-200
1x F 951 Najim Al Zafir [Jianghu Type 053H(E)]
3x MiG-25P Foxbat A
1x F 946 Abu Qir [Descubierta]
2x SH-2G(E) Seasprite
1x F 911 Mubarak [Perry]
2x SA.565MA Panther
1x L 9030 Champlain [BATRAL Class]
1x Sea King Mk47 [HAS.1]
2x Radar (AN/TPS-63)
2x Mirage F.1CH
2x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-50 PAR)
4x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-46 HPI)
2x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-55 ICWAR)
6x M192 I-HAWK
1x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-51 ROR)
1x AvGas Tank Farm (10 x 75k Liter Tank)
1x Runway Access Point (Very Large Aircraft)
Operation Folgore
Moderator: MOD_Command
RE: Operation Folgore
Magi, you are a genius![&o] As I was about to waste 6 hours re-arming the Harriers on my carrier, it occurred to me why not just try strafing THEM instead? So I refueled my Jamming Helicopter, waited for it to get dark and then sent it and 5 harriers in after the Patrol Boats in the Carriers path and strafed them all! None got sunk, but they are badly mauled and I'll wait until my Helo refuels and send in another strafing attack! Now there is something I would have NEVER thought of were it not for you! Thanks for the insight! Who knows? I might just start strafing a lot of other targets from now on! [:D]
RE: Operation Folgore
well Gboatz.... i dont know about that.... your doing good though... cool
my dash on their Hawkeye didnt go well... it was to far out there deep in their space... i literally ran into a Mig29 i have no idea where he came from... i mean he was just there... "missiles Away.. Bang".. just that fast and i lost an FA18... his 120's got the mig though.. i turned the other guy around and headed back to the group... mission killed.. bad call on my part... ill get it later.. go in with 2 two unit elements.. one to cover the assassins...
now..... my gun run attack on their 4 numchuckers whatever group was a total blazing success..... it was around 1500 local time.. i decided not to wait for dark... i separated 5ea av8b's and 2 two elements of fa18's suported with the ECW aircraft...
the plan.... the two groups of fa18's in echelon would go south head on at 2000 ft radars active followed by the ECW... they would be the faint...
2 av8b's were sent south west and 3 av8b's south east a 2000 then 1000 feet.. these were the punch...
at the edge of red groups radar.. i turned the harriers in for the attack run.. and dropped them down to 80 feet.. i assigned them targets..
on the first pass all the boats were damaged... some on fire... they were turning and fighting back... then i sent the fa18's down...
it was a slaughter... all in flames.. 3 sank almost immediately... the last was left burning and slipped beneath the green sea before you could finish a cigarette...
honestly... from the moment the attack started.. the whole thing happened in ten minutes or so... totally violent... i wished i recorded it... i cant believe i didnt loose a unit.... cool... we bad...
next im focusing on my 2 sub ambush.... they are about in position... in the path of intended motion of red surface assault group....
i am currently reducing their helo asw assets to enhance the survival of my units... this is important to the success of the mission..
with the first attack... i will try to get some of the escorts.. specifically the oh perry's... they are very able sub killers... if i had a strike group ready in time id like to hurt them and mop up with my subs... but it may be the other way around...
it will come down to timing... kinda who gets there first.... the ideal would be to strike durning my sub attack.... Hummmm......
thinking thinking thinking....... this is so much fun.......
at 1700 zulu.... this is what ive done.... ive lost 2 hornets
SIDE: NAIL
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LOSSES:
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4x 670 Ramadan
1x E-2C Hawkeye Group II
10x F-16C Blk 42 Falcon [Peace Vector II Upgr]
6x M192 I-HAWK
2x MiG-25P Foxbat A
1x MiG-29 Fulcrum C
3x Mirage F.1CH-200
1x Radar (AN/TPS-63)
2x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-46 HPI)
1x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-50 PAR)
1x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-51 ROR)
1x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-55 ICWAR)
EXPENDITURES:
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78x 40mm/70 Twin Breda Compact Burst [32 rnds]
88x 76mm/62 Compact HE Burst [4 rnds]
4x AA-11 Archer [R-73]
12x AIM-7M Sparrow III
22x AN/SSQ-62C DICASS
30x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
1x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
22x MIM-23B I-HAWK
later
my dash on their Hawkeye didnt go well... it was to far out there deep in their space... i literally ran into a Mig29 i have no idea where he came from... i mean he was just there... "missiles Away.. Bang".. just that fast and i lost an FA18... his 120's got the mig though.. i turned the other guy around and headed back to the group... mission killed.. bad call on my part... ill get it later.. go in with 2 two unit elements.. one to cover the assassins...
now..... my gun run attack on their 4 numchuckers whatever group was a total blazing success..... it was around 1500 local time.. i decided not to wait for dark... i separated 5ea av8b's and 2 two elements of fa18's suported with the ECW aircraft...
the plan.... the two groups of fa18's in echelon would go south head on at 2000 ft radars active followed by the ECW... they would be the faint...
2 av8b's were sent south west and 3 av8b's south east a 2000 then 1000 feet.. these were the punch...
at the edge of red groups radar.. i turned the harriers in for the attack run.. and dropped them down to 80 feet.. i assigned them targets..
on the first pass all the boats were damaged... some on fire... they were turning and fighting back... then i sent the fa18's down...
it was a slaughter... all in flames.. 3 sank almost immediately... the last was left burning and slipped beneath the green sea before you could finish a cigarette...
honestly... from the moment the attack started.. the whole thing happened in ten minutes or so... totally violent... i wished i recorded it... i cant believe i didnt loose a unit.... cool... we bad...
next im focusing on my 2 sub ambush.... they are about in position... in the path of intended motion of red surface assault group....
i am currently reducing their helo asw assets to enhance the survival of my units... this is important to the success of the mission..
with the first attack... i will try to get some of the escorts.. specifically the oh perry's... they are very able sub killers... if i had a strike group ready in time id like to hurt them and mop up with my subs... but it may be the other way around...
it will come down to timing... kinda who gets there first.... the ideal would be to strike durning my sub attack.... Hummmm......
thinking thinking thinking....... this is so much fun.......
at 1700 zulu.... this is what ive done.... ive lost 2 hornets
SIDE: NAIL
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LOSSES:
-------------------------------
4x 670 Ramadan
1x E-2C Hawkeye Group II
10x F-16C Blk 42 Falcon [Peace Vector II Upgr]
6x M192 I-HAWK
2x MiG-25P Foxbat A
1x MiG-29 Fulcrum C
3x Mirage F.1CH-200
1x Radar (AN/TPS-63)
2x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-46 HPI)
1x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-50 PAR)
1x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-51 ROR)
1x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-55 ICWAR)
EXPENDITURES:
------------------
78x 40mm/70 Twin Breda Compact Burst [32 rnds]
88x 76mm/62 Compact HE Burst [4 rnds]
4x AA-11 Archer [R-73]
12x AIM-7M Sparrow III
22x AN/SSQ-62C DICASS
30x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
1x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
22x MIM-23B I-HAWK
later
RE: Operation Folgore
There's an old expression: "There are old pilots and there are bold pilots. But there are NO old, bold pilots." Looks like that is what happened to your Hornet raid, but with your assertive style of play, it was certainly worth a try. Me? I am far more methodical, chipping away steadily while heading southward towards my fate. I haven't lost any assets yet, but I probably may have had it not been for us putting out heads together, particularly regarding strafing the four PB's heading for my carrier and the two coastal air bases. After my strafing attacks on the land bases, I've had no more trouble from them and despite the first strafing run on the PB's where I came in at 1000 feet and the PB's shot back aggressively,(but missed), in subsequent Harrier raids (four in all in two plane groups) I came in at 800 feet and the PB's were as tame as de-clawed house cats and I sent all 4 of them to Davy Jones locker! Now that the path in front of me is relatively clear, I've moved my AAW and refuel missions further south and have TWO Orion's in front of the carrier group and one in front of the Amphib group aggressively looking for subs. While doing so I ran into a couple of surprises, but I'll let you discover that for yourself! [:D] But first.....
*****Spoiler Alert*****
Your sub attack on the Amphib group to the south is going to work! I sent one of the subs in low and slow targeting only the Amphib ships. Fortunately, the Perry's ran right on by at 14 knots and I tagged each of the remaining three Amphibs with two torpedoes each. Strange, only ONE of the escorts even turned towards me to give chase after I went after the Amphibs and he was so close, I sent him to the bottom with a two torpedo salvo also! The remaining two Perry's took off and never looked back!
I now have 1 Day and 17 hours left and will lastly concentrate on all enemy assets to the south. There has yet to be a truly heavy or sustained air attack towards me yet. A couple of Foxbats and a few fighters came looking, but you can see from my stats they paid a price for it. So it looks like I'll spend the remaining time looking for subs and taking out their defense around the landing zone. I landed my UOE team from the Tramontana and they're giving me a lot of good data on what near the landing zone! I've got all the Hornets loaded up with Harms and Bombs and I'm moving my refuel assets further south. I'm now pretty confident that I'll get where I need to go with my Delta Amphib group although for some reason this particular scenario doesn't seem to offer any scoring? Oh well, I'll know when I get there. [;)]
So, thanks to you, strafing was the key to winning this scenario? Who knew? [:D]
SIDE: NAIL
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LOSSES:
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8x F-16C Blk 42 Falcon [Peace Vector II Upgr]
1x E-2C Hawkeye Group II
3x Mirage F.1CH-200
1x F 951 Najim Al Zafir [Jianghu Type 053H(E)]
4x MiG-25P Foxbat A
2x F 946 Abu Qir [Descubierta]
2x SH-2G(E) Seasprite
1x F 911 Mubarak [Perry]
2x SA.565MA Panther
3x L 9030 Champlain [BATRAL Class]
1x Sea King Mk47 [HAS.1]
2x Radar (AN/TPS-63)
2x Mirage F.1CH
2x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-50 PAR)
4x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-46 HPI)
2x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-55 ICWAR)
6x M192 I-HAWK
1x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-51 ROR)
1x AvGas Tank Farm (10 x 75k Liter Tank)
1x Runway Access Point (Very Large Aircraft)
1x 416 Ziyad [Pr.1234E Nanuchka II]
4x 670 Ramadan
1x LST 1179 Newport
*****Spoiler Alert*****
Your sub attack on the Amphib group to the south is going to work! I sent one of the subs in low and slow targeting only the Amphib ships. Fortunately, the Perry's ran right on by at 14 knots and I tagged each of the remaining three Amphibs with two torpedoes each. Strange, only ONE of the escorts even turned towards me to give chase after I went after the Amphibs and he was so close, I sent him to the bottom with a two torpedo salvo also! The remaining two Perry's took off and never looked back!
I now have 1 Day and 17 hours left and will lastly concentrate on all enemy assets to the south. There has yet to be a truly heavy or sustained air attack towards me yet. A couple of Foxbats and a few fighters came looking, but you can see from my stats they paid a price for it. So it looks like I'll spend the remaining time looking for subs and taking out their defense around the landing zone. I landed my UOE team from the Tramontana and they're giving me a lot of good data on what near the landing zone! I've got all the Hornets loaded up with Harms and Bombs and I'm moving my refuel assets further south. I'm now pretty confident that I'll get where I need to go with my Delta Amphib group although for some reason this particular scenario doesn't seem to offer any scoring? Oh well, I'll know when I get there. [;)]
So, thanks to you, strafing was the key to winning this scenario? Who knew? [:D]
SIDE: NAIL
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LOSSES:
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8x F-16C Blk 42 Falcon [Peace Vector II Upgr]
1x E-2C Hawkeye Group II
3x Mirage F.1CH-200
1x F 951 Najim Al Zafir [Jianghu Type 053H(E)]
4x MiG-25P Foxbat A
2x F 946 Abu Qir [Descubierta]
2x SH-2G(E) Seasprite
1x F 911 Mubarak [Perry]
2x SA.565MA Panther
3x L 9030 Champlain [BATRAL Class]
1x Sea King Mk47 [HAS.1]
2x Radar (AN/TPS-63)
2x Mirage F.1CH
2x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-50 PAR)
4x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-46 HPI)
2x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-55 ICWAR)
6x M192 I-HAWK
1x Vehicle (AN/MPQ-51 ROR)
1x AvGas Tank Farm (10 x 75k Liter Tank)
1x Runway Access Point (Very Large Aircraft)
1x 416 Ziyad [Pr.1234E Nanuchka II]
4x 670 Ramadan
1x LST 1179 Newport
RE: Operation Folgore
Good going..... Gboatz...
I still don't understand where I'm supposed to land the shore recon party rom the sub..... Is at those three locked RP's just to the north of the landing zone..??
And what do you do to disembark them... Does the AI take care of that when you surface...?
Next time we should start a our own thread when we play together like this.....
I still don't understand where I'm supposed to land the shore recon party rom the sub..... Is at those three locked RP's just to the north of the landing zone..??
And what do you do to disembark them... Does the AI take care of that when you surface...?
Next time we should start a our own thread when we play together like this.....
RE: Operation Folgore
Oh... Hellow... Your online....
RE: Operation Folgore
With regard to the recon team as soon as your sub gets close to the fixed landing point you just get a message that they've landed and then you can take off. If your sub is there it should just pop up?
RE: Operation Folgore
Ok.... Thanks.....
zulu 21:07
well.... i did make my attack with the sub Delfin.... and i lost her as i anticipted... however she took out a Perry class frigate a Batral transport and the LST Newport.. which was the alpha target as she is 3 times the tonnage of the others..... if i had handled it differently i may have saved her... it was a desperate attack... as she sprinted east to make the intercept and initiated the attack with low batteries.. against a group with group with very able ASW coverage....
i will probably make an air strike against them... which may not have sufficant force to totally destroy the group.. it will attrit them and i have another sub i can vector in to finnish the job.....
my two surface group are closing so i can join them....
managing my refueling assits is a hassle as they are so bloody slow....
later.....
zulu 21:07
well.... i did make my attack with the sub Delfin.... and i lost her as i anticipted... however she took out a Perry class frigate a Batral transport and the LST Newport.. which was the alpha target as she is 3 times the tonnage of the others..... if i had handled it differently i may have saved her... it was a desperate attack... as she sprinted east to make the intercept and initiated the attack with low batteries.. against a group with group with very able ASW coverage....
i will probably make an air strike against them... which may not have sufficant force to totally destroy the group.. it will attrit them and i have another sub i can vector in to finnish the job.....
my two surface group are closing so i can join them....
managing my refueling assits is a hassle as they are so bloody slow....
later.....
RE: Operation Folgore
Gboatz
My strike on their surface group was surprising successful.... Sunk all their ships except one transport which I finished with a sub....
Have joind my to surface groups up... I split off a strong element that will that will run 18-20 nm ahead of the main group....
Maintaining a lot of air craft with aa load out as I anticipate that when they get a fix on my location they will attempt an attack.... Considering setting up a trap by radiating with my covering force... hoping they will try to strike at the limit of their endurece range......
I still don't know where to disembark the recon party from the sub.... Have been cruising up and the coast at periscope depth in the area of the reference points..... I Don't get it what I'm doing wrong....
My strike on their surface group was surprising successful.... Sunk all their ships except one transport which I finished with a sub....
Have joind my to surface groups up... I split off a strong element that will that will run 18-20 nm ahead of the main group....
Maintaining a lot of air craft with aa load out as I anticipate that when they get a fix on my location they will attempt an attack.... Considering setting up a trap by radiating with my covering force... hoping they will try to strike at the limit of their endurece range......
I still don't know where to disembark the recon party from the sub.... Have been cruising up and the coast at periscope depth in the area of the reference points..... I Don't get it what I'm doing wrong....