Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Courtenay

It's time (or past time) to pick some US entry options. You need tension. Which options have you picked already?


OK. Your first priorities should be resources to Western Allies and resources to China. What comes next depends on how the tension is going. There are no bad options, but some are better than others. The immediate aim is to get gear up; for this you need 11 tension against both Ge/It and Ja. This might take only a few entry options, it might take a great many -- you are at the mercy of the dice. (Which frequently are not at all merciful. [:)] ) To repeat, though, you should pick the two resource options immediately.

Once you have picked resources to China, the Japanese have to decide if they are going to close the Burma road.

warspite1

Washington - July 1940

FDR's military advisor, Courtenay, has recommended some tension needs to be added re the Japanese and US Entry. FDR heeds the advice.

FDR (picks up the phone and speaks to the telephanist): Patch me through to that Japanese Mutha would you?
Telephanist: Certainly sir
FDR (hears the phone click but wastes no time on pleasantries); now listen here you little ****. What the **** do you think you are ******* playing at in ****** China? Now you listen to me and you listen real close you ****** ****. I am going to give you 24 hours to get the **** out of China or I'm gong to kick your ****** bony arse all the way from Peking to ***** Tokyo. Got that?
Sara Roosevelt (FDR's mum - sounding somewhat shocked and puzzled): Is that you Franklin?
FDR (horrified and struggling for words): Er.. no... er there's no Franklin here mom...I mean Ma'am..er and I'm definitely not the President...er...uhm...good day to you ma'am (slams the phone down).
FDR (composes himself and picks up the phone once more): I said Japanese Mutha not my mother! Whoever just put me through to my mom is sacked!!

[:D] [:D]

[Orm]

Stalin claims the Finnish borderlands and the Germans say yes.

Maybe you should fight the winter war next time? At least if there are limited Soviet forces available for this campaign.

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Sep/Oct 1940
Impulse: 3

The French seal off - at least temporarily - the gap created between the armies in the Maginot Line and those to the west. The British keep hold of Antwerp this impulse. Gort and Alexander do not have enough points to support a total retreat into France. The British units in Belgium have to hope that the presence of the RN will stop any thoughts of a German attack. Gort reorganises a Hurricane, meaning that the RAF now have two fighters in France. Georges reorganises the Armoured Corps and the French 5th Infantry Corps (carried out after this screen shot was taken).

Finally things looks better for Germany but now the summer is almost over and a early winter can save the French and Paris might hold out for next year.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Sep/Oct 1940
Impulse: 3

The French seal off - at least temporarily - the gap created between the armies in the Maginot Line and those to the west. The British keep hold of Antwerp this impulse. Gort and Alexander do not have enough points to support a total retreat into France. The British units in Belgium have to hope that the presence of the RN will stop any thoughts of a German attack. Gort reorganises a Hurricane, meaning that the RAF now have two fighters in France. Georges reorganises the Armoured Corps and the French 5th Infantry Corps (carried out after this screen shot was taken).

Finally things looks better for Germany but now the summer is almost over and a early winter can save the French and Paris might hold out for next year.

warspite1

Indeed. The Germans have had reasonable luck - particularly with ground strikes, which has meant the French have found counter-attacking, or even moving, difficult. The Germans have not had great luck with the land battles though i.e. no "monster" throws, so progress is not too bad considering.

Looks like a 1942 Barbarossa so I am considering other options if France can be despatched relatively quickly.

[Orm]

Looks like a 1942 Barbarossa so I am considering other options if France can be despatched relatively quickly.

A Balkan campaign might be doable.

[warspite1]

One thing that is more likely of course is Italian entry into the war. Now that the Germans are in a reasonable position, Il Duce may summon up the courage to declare war on the Western Allies. However, and being the big brave soldier that he is, he will want to see a little more evidence that there is no chance of a French recovery first....

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

Looks like a 1942 Barbarossa so I am considering other options if France can be despatched relatively quickly.

A Balkan campaign might be doable.

warspite1

I was thinking of something a little less Balkany, and a bit more Iberiany.....

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm

Looks like a 1942 Barbarossa so I am considering other options if France can be despatched relatively quickly.

A Balkan campaign might be doable.

warspite1

I was thinking of something a little less Balkany, and a bit more Iberiany.....

And that is a bit more fun but a lot more risky. But regardless on what Axis decides to do, or not do, in Iberia they need a Balkan strategy.

Edit: And I doubt that France will be despatched quickly. They will prevail.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm


A Balkan campaign might be doable.

warspite1

I was thinking of something a little less Balkany, and a bit more Iberiany.....

And that is a bit more fun but a lot more risky. But regardless on what Axis decides to do, or not do, in Iberia they need a Balkan strategy.

Edit: And I doubt that France will be despatched quickly. They will prevail.

warspite1

Why do the Axis need a Balkan strategy? What is the downside of leaving well alone?

[WarHunter]

ORIGINAL: warspite1
Why do the Axis need a Balkan strategy? What is the downside of leaving well alone?

This could happen.

YUGOSLAVIA The Commonwealth can declare that Yugoslavia is aligning with it
during any Allied declaration of war step if Yugoslavia is neutral and there are a
total of 4 or more Commonwealth corps in any adjacent countries.
France can declare that Yugoslavia is aligning with it during any Allied declaration of war step
if Yugoslavia is neutral and there are a total of 4 or more French corps in any adjacent countries.

[Orm]

Why do the Axis need a Balkan strategy? What is the downside of leaving well alone?

Axis prefer to align Yugoslavia with them but to do so might often be tricky. Conquering Greece is usually the toughest part and that without providing the Allies for a opportunity to align Yugoslavia themselves.

But what is important is that Yugoslavia is not in a position to align with the Allies later in the war so if aligning Yugoslavia is out then I suggest that conquering Yugoslavia is a must.



RAC:
19.7 Axis minor countries
....
Yugoslavia
An Axis major power that controls Athens can declare that Yugoslavia is aligning with it during any Axis
declaration of war step if:
• Yugoslavia is neutral; and
• Italy, Hungary, Rumania, Bulgaria, Greece and Albania are all Axis controlled.
....
19.8 Allied minor countries
Yugoslavia
The Commonwealth can declare that Yugoslavia is aligning with it during any Allied declaration of war step
if Yugoslavia is neutral and there are a total of 4 or more Commonwealth corps in any adjacent countries.
France can declare that Yugoslavia is aligning with it during any Allied declaration of war step if Yugoslavia
is neutral and there are a total of 4 or more French corps in any adjacent countries.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: WarHunter

ORIGINAL: warspite1
Why do the Axis need a Balkan strategy? What is the downside of leaving well alone?

This could happen.

YUGOSLAVIA The Commonwealth can declare that Yugoslavia is aligning with it
during any Allied declaration of war step if Yugoslavia is neutral and there are a
total of 4 or more Commonwealth corps in any adjacent countries.
France can declare that Yugoslavia is aligning with it during any Allied declaration of war step
if Yugoslavia is neutral and there are a total of 4 or more French corps in any adjacent countries.

warspite1

But that presumably means the CW invading Greece? That sounds incredibly difficult - and potentially a CW graveyard - for limited German defence, given the mountainous terrain, no?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

Why do the Axis need a Balkan strategy? What is the downside of leaving well alone?

Axis prefer to align Yugoslavia with them but to do so might often be tricky. Conquering Greece is usually the toughest part and that without providing the Allies for a opportunity to align Yugoslavia themselves.

But what is important is that Yugoslavia is not in a position to align with the Allies later in the war so if aligning Yugoslavia is out then I suggest that conquering Yugoslavia is a must.



RAC:
19.7 Axis minor countries
....
Yugoslavia
An Axis major power that controls Athens can declare that Yugoslavia is aligning with it during any Axis
declaration of war step if:
• Yugoslavia is neutral; and
• Italy, Hungary, Rumania, Bulgaria, Greece and Albania are all Axis controlled.
....
19.8 Allied minor countries
Yugoslavia
The Commonwealth can declare that Yugoslavia is aligning with it during any Allied declaration of war step
if Yugoslavia is neutral and there are a total of 4 or more Commonwealth corps in any adjacent countries.
France can declare that Yugoslavia is aligning with it during any Allied declaration of war step if Yugoslavia
is neutral and there are a total of 4 or more French corps in any adjacent countries.

warspite1

Interesting stuff - maybe I'll go for a Spanish AND a Yugoslav/Greek campaign [:)]

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: WarHunter

ORIGINAL: warspite1
Why do the Axis need a Balkan strategy? What is the downside of leaving well alone?

This could happen.

YUGOSLAVIA The Commonwealth can declare that Yugoslavia is aligning with it
during any Allied declaration of war step if Yugoslavia is neutral and there are a
total of 4 or more Commonwealth corps in any adjacent countries.
France can declare that Yugoslavia is aligning with it during any Allied declaration of war step
if Yugoslavia is neutral and there are a total of 4 or more French corps in any adjacent countries.

warspite1

But that presumably means the CW invading Greece? That sounds incredibly difficult - and potentially a CW graveyard - for limited German defence, given the mountainous terrain, no?

Or Albania, Italy or Germany. Four CW Corps in Sicily is enough trouble for Italy without having the Yugoslavian army in the rear area.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: WarHunter




This could happen.

warspite1

But that presumably means the CW invading Greece? That sounds incredibly difficult - and potentially a CW graveyard - for limited German defence, given the mountainous terrain, no?

Or Albania, Italy or Germany. Four CW Corps in Sicily is enough trouble for Italy without having the Yugoslavian army in the rear area.

warspite1

Ahhhh..... hadn't thought of Sicily / Sardinia..... Yes I see why the Germans would want to deal with that possibility in advance.

[Orm]

Ahhhh..... hadn't thought of Sicily / Sardinia..... Yes I see why the Germans would want to deal with that possibility in advance.

Only Sicily counts here. Sardinia do not count as part of the Italian home country.

[Courtenay]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: WarHunter

ORIGINAL: warspite1
Why do the Axis need a Balkan strategy? What is the downside of leaving well alone?

This could happen.

YUGOSLAVIA The Commonwealth can declare that Yugoslavia is aligning with it
during any Allied declaration of war step if Yugoslavia is neutral and there are a
total of 4 or more Commonwealth corps in any adjacent countries.
France can declare that Yugoslavia is aligning with it during any Allied declaration of war step
if Yugoslavia is neutral and there are a total of 4 or more French corps in any adjacent countries.

warspite1

But that presumably means the CW invading Greece? That sounds incredibly difficult - and potentially a CW graveyard - for limited German defence, given the mountainous terrain, no?

Any adjacent country means any adjacent country. If the CW gets four corps in Albania or Italy, that will do it too. In other words, four CW corps in Sicily will trigger the activation of Yugoslavia. It is a very rare game of WiF that does not see four Allied corps in Italy at some point.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

Ahhhh..... hadn't thought of Sicily / Sardinia..... Yes I see why the Germans would want to deal with that possibility in advance.

Only Sicily counts here. Sardinia do not count as part of the Italian home country.

warspite1

Ah yes - the MAR rule. Forgot that.

[warspite1]

Sep/Oct 1940
Impulse: 4

The Germans go for one ground strike, ordering a Stuka to attack the 7th Infantry Corps and Metz Militia northeast of Paris. There are no French fighters to intercept.

Once again the bombing is precise - what the Japanese would give for one of these!!

[warspite1]

Sep/Oct 1940
Impulse: 4

There will be two attacks this impulse:

Northeast of Paris
Rheims

For the latter attack Karl Student and his Fallschirmjager will be called into action for the third time.