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RE: Burma Bungle!
A little good news in China...


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RE: Burma Bungle!
Perth has been quiet for a long time, but fresh activity shows up...


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RE: Burma Bungle!
Pretty clever of the Allies to sweep my troops in the jungle, rather than flying into Magwe. Darn Allies are learning![:D] I will have to shorten my range, and get prepared to be bombed in the jungle at least there is good AA and terrain there.
I lost 70 victory points, got no credit for any cargo ship sunk, so some of those will trickle in I hope.
On the good news front, that really nasty long legged British bomber I posted a while back is bombing airfields at night....much better than heading for Canton or Hong Kong! Allies don't get that many, and if I can catch them that will weaken his long range threat substantially...
Where are my rocket planes? Research harder!
A nasty surprise somewhere:

I lost 70 victory points, got no credit for any cargo ship sunk, so some of those will trickle in I hope.
On the good news front, that really nasty long legged British bomber I posted a while back is bombing airfields at night....much better than heading for Canton or Hong Kong! Allies don't get that many, and if I can catch them that will weaken his long range threat substantially...
Where are my rocket planes? Research harder!
A nasty surprise somewhere:

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RE: Burma Bungle!
I really want to visit Ledo....


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Chin up!! Corsair ONLY come in at one per day. [:D]
...at first...

RE: Burma Bungle!
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
I really want to visit Ledo....
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Nells can get there, can't they? Your Helens can, from most of Burma... put together a strike force! Some of those Corsairs will shift over to Ledo right quick, and then you can just ignore them.
RE: Burma Bungle!
ORIGINAL: ny59giants
Chin up!! Corsair ONLY come in at one per day. [:D]
His sweeps really only accounted for 44 planes and he lost 20. It was the night bombing that hurt...probably a combination of a lot of low level waves, not enough flak, Dinah at wrong altitude. I can fix some of that.
We will see how the Tojo IIc does -- 2 days for the first splinter to get up and flying in Magwe.
My chin is up -- Magwe is still pumping! How cool is that?[8D]
RE: Burma Bungle!
Shortened my CAP over Magwe a little, and filled Magwe up to 350 fighter equivalents.
I expect more night bombing this turn in Burma, and most planes are moved to bases that have no detection level or lots of AA and balloons with Dinah KAI fighters on night duty.
The machine cannons are unloading in Indochina...more aviation support also on the way. Need to scrape up more boots on the ground...
But Burma will be an ugly scrum for years now...which is probably a good thing.
Still moving forward in China...70 plus Chinese units in the capitol.
I am setting up the Ledo strike, and others...
I expect more night bombing this turn in Burma, and most planes are moved to bases that have no detection level or lots of AA and balloons with Dinah KAI fighters on night duty.
The machine cannons are unloading in Indochina...more aviation support also on the way. Need to scrape up more boots on the ground...
But Burma will be an ugly scrum for years now...which is probably a good thing.
Still moving forward in China...70 plus Chinese units in the capitol.
I am setting up the Ledo strike, and others...
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RE: Burma Bungle!
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I really want to visit Ledo....
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Nells can get there, can't they? Your Helens can, from most of Burma... put together a strike force! Some of those Corsairs will shift over to Ledo right quick, and then you can just ignore them.
Just like at Madras! [:)]
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RE: Burma Bungle!
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Shortened my CAP over Magwe a little, and filled Magwe up to 350 fighter equivalents.
I expect more night bombing this turn in Burma, and most planes are moved to bases that have no detection level or lots of AA and balloons with Dinah KAI fighters on night duty.
The machine cannons are unloading in Indochina...more aviation support also on the way. Need to scrape up more boots on the ground...
But Burma will be an ugly scrum for years now...which is probably a good thing.
Still moving forward in China...70 plus Chinese units in the capitol.
I am setting up the Ledo strike, and others...
Break up all those squadrons into fragments and layer your CAP. The turn-fighters (Oscar, Zero) go low, your fast energy fighters (Tojo, KAI Dinah, Tony) go up high.
That way, when the Corsairs sweep by again, there's a good chance they'll dive onto one of the low fragments of turn fighters, leaving them open to the bounce.
You've seen it work in our Downfall PBEM: poor pilots, with poor morale in old planes, yet still able to shoot down the best the Allies have.
Think what you can do with crack pilots, with high morale and with the best planes Japan has to offer!
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RE: Burma Bungle!
I love Corsairs! But as Micheal says the first model is only 30/month and it has a SR 3. But its a fine plane! [&o]

RE: Burma Bungle!
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Shortened my CAP over Magwe a little, and filled Magwe up to 350 fighter equivalents.
I expect more night bombing this turn in Burma, and most planes are moved to bases that have no detection level or lots of AA and balloons with Dinah KAI fighters on night duty.
The machine cannons are unloading in Indochina...more aviation support also on the way. Need to scrape up more boots on the ground...
But Burma will be an ugly scrum for years now...which is probably a good thing.
Still moving forward in China...70 plus Chinese units in the capitol.
I am setting up the Ledo strike, and others...
Break up all those squadrons into fragments and layer your CAP. The turn-fighters (Oscar, Zero) go low, your fast energy fighters (Tojo, KAI Dinah, Tony) go up high.
That way, when the Corsairs sweep by again, there's a good chance they'll dive onto one of the low fragments of turn fighters, leaving them open to the bounce.
You've seen it work in our Downfall PBEM: poor pilots, with poor morale in old planes, yet still able to shoot down the best the Allies have.
Think what you can do with crack pilots, with high morale and with the best planes Japan has to offer!
CAP is layered between 20K and 10K. But I never thought to break them down into splinters.
RE: Burma Bungle!
March 23, 1943
Lots of night bombing next door to Magwe. The KAI Dinah tries to intercept, but most times can't close with the bombers, but there very presence forces unescorted bombers to withdraw.
Despite plentiful moonlight and nice weather damage is minimal. Most planes on the ground were moved to the AA haven of Magwe. Intelligence reports 4 Nicks lost on the ground there, but I don't have any Nicks there. Allies lose one 4E to flak. Damage to the runways are repaired...Allies detection level drops to 6.
Corsairs sweep the Magwe push in the jungle ridge along the dirt road, but no Japanese fighters are there to contest the skies with him.
In China, another attack on 3 isolated corps...I think they can only take 1-2 more deliberate attacks before they surrender. I don't think there are any Chinese combat squads that aren't disabled now...

Lots of night bombing next door to Magwe. The KAI Dinah tries to intercept, but most times can't close with the bombers, but there very presence forces unescorted bombers to withdraw.
Despite plentiful moonlight and nice weather damage is minimal. Most planes on the ground were moved to the AA haven of Magwe. Intelligence reports 4 Nicks lost on the ground there, but I don't have any Nicks there. Allies lose one 4E to flak. Damage to the runways are repaired...Allies detection level drops to 6.
Corsairs sweep the Magwe push in the jungle ridge along the dirt road, but no Japanese fighters are there to contest the skies with him.
In China, another attack on 3 isolated corps...I think they can only take 1-2 more deliberate attacks before they surrender. I don't think there are any Chinese combat squads that aren't disabled now...

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CAP is layered between 20K and 10K. But I never thought to break them down into splinters.
Not sure it is a good idea. You have probably put a good commander over the unit. If you split it then only the "/A" part will have him and the "/B" and "/C" parts will have someone of low skill. You may be short of PP to replace that person given that if you recombine you will have wasted that PP.
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I spent close to 1500 points on buying ENG, AA, and ART from Manchuko today. Most of it is slated for Shanghai and eventually Burma although some AA will go to Lanchow and other important resource/industry centers that might see bombers.
The ART is going to China where it will help with the push to the western mountains.
The Endo detachment, 2 Irving NF, is on its way to Burma where night attacks are constant. I am not expecting any miracles with them, but they do have good pilots, and hopefully they will be able to disrupt the night bombing attacks a little. Still no fully repaired r&d factories for NF.
Making 11 Tojo IIc a day; so the main fighter mainstays for the next several months will be Tojo IIc, A6M5c. I am still making Nicks, KAI Dinahs, Oscars - just not that many.
Ledo still has no fighters.
The ART is going to China where it will help with the push to the western mountains.
The Endo detachment, 2 Irving NF, is on its way to Burma where night attacks are constant. I am not expecting any miracles with them, but they do have good pilots, and hopefully they will be able to disrupt the night bombing attacks a little. Still no fully repaired r&d factories for NF.
Making 11 Tojo IIc a day; so the main fighter mainstays for the next several months will be Tojo IIc, A6M5c. I am still making Nicks, KAI Dinahs, Oscars - just not that many.
Ledo still has no fighters.
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RE: Burma Bungle!
ORIGINAL: JocMeister
I love Corsairs! But as Micheal says the first model is only 30/month and it has a SR 3. But its a fine plane! [&o]
Nice sig Jocke....is that nose number indicative of Pappy's ride?
Hans
RE: Burma Bungle!
Bah, Corsairs are just fighters...it is beasts like this that make life difficult for Japan, as intelligence is power.
The only way I can hit these recon planes is with bombers, Allied naval search is strong, and I can't close for a bombardment without giving everything away...except maybe Allied search is weak if I come from the east.
I take it there is no chance of shooting these guys down over Truk?

The only way I can hit these recon planes is with bombers, Allied naval search is strong, and I can't close for a bombardment without giving everything away...except maybe Allied search is weak if I come from the east.
I take it there is no chance of shooting these guys down over Truk?

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RE: Burma Bungle!
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Nice sig Jocke....is that nose number indicative of Pappy's ride?
No idea! I found the picture via google and then spiced it up! Used it for a while but since I mostly post in my AAR it got kind of repetitive. [:)]

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RE: Burma Bungle!
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Bah, Corsairs are just fighters...it is beasts like this that make life difficult for Japan, as intelligence is power.
The only way I can hit these recon planes is with bombers, Allied naval search is strong, and I can't close for a bombardment without giving everything away...except maybe Allied search is weak if I come from the east.
I take it there is no chance of shooting these guys down over Truk?
I wonder if you will say that once the P47s start to arrive! [:D]
Probably won´t be able to shoot them down. But if he isn´t careful and manage FAT he can start loosing them to OPS. That being said I can´t remember every being short of them in my game vs Erik.
Wait until the B29 version comes along with its 51(?) hexes range! [:D]



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