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RE: Burma Bungle!

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ORIGINAL: mind_messing

Just like at Madras! [:)]

I wasn't using those ships anyway.

ORIGINAL: Spidery
CAP is layered between 20K and 10K. But I never thought to break them down into splinters.

Not sure it is a good idea. You have probably put a good commander over the unit. If you split it then only the "/A" part will have him and the "/B" and "/C" parts will have someone of low skill. You may be short of PP to replace that person given that if you recombine you will have wasted that PP.

Agree, no reason to split if they're all going to go down low anyway.
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RE: Burma Bungle!

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I wonder if you will say that once the P47s start to arrive! [:D]

Probably won´t be able to shoot them down. But if he isn´t careful and manage FAT he can start loosing them to OPS. That being said I can´t remember every being short of them in my game vs Erik.

Wait until the B29 version comes along with its 51(?) hexes range! [:D]

P47s are beasts, true. I hope I can make it to where the fragile rocket plane squares off against them...

On recon planes, I put 200 Zeroes on 80/20 0 Hex CAP to see if I can take any down.

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RE: Burma Bungle!

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ORIGINAL: Spidery
CAP is layered between 20K and 10K. But I never thought to break them down into splinters.

Not sure it is a good idea. You have probably put a good commander over the unit. If you split it then only the "/A" part will have him and the "/B" and "/C" parts will have someone of low skill. You may be short of PP to replace that person given that if you recombine you will have wasted that PP.


I looked at splitting them up; but decided against it because of leaders.

I added a few more layers of CAP, maybe that will help. Armored Tojo's will help! Might have upgraded the first squadron with the latest turn.

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RE: Burma Bungle!

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March 24, 1943

More night raids on the airfields in northern Burma. The KAI Dinah responds, as well as a splinter of 4 Tonies. The Tony actually damages a bomber. No damage to that isn't fixed except for one Tojo on the ground.

After the night bombing raids, three large sweeps come in at Magwe where dance of death is decidedly in his favor...

Quiet elsewhere except that a sub puts a torpedo into an empty Tonan Whaler, and now the fires will probably consume her. 2 hexes from a level 3 port...maybe.



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RE: Burma Bungle!

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A few quick notes:

First splinter squadron upgrades to the Tojo IIc, unfortunately it was at Ankang.[:(] Not a ton of supplies there, and no HQ so no clue why they upgraded -- normally I have upgrades off across the map. Must have missed one.

I was all set to hit Ledo, and all the transports move to Chittacong with 700 guns. Ouch. We will see if they move again. I do have a heavy bombardment group heading there...try to sneak thru his naval search. If they get spotted, I might hit Ledo on the following turn with the bombers and hope for the best.

I put a fair number of Nicks on low naval strafe attacks...we will see if they catch anything.

Couldn't shoot down any of those heavy recon planes over Truk, but did reduce the detection to 6.

In my game with mind-messing, downfall scenario, I am having every b29 hit Osaka in firebombing attack. They are all rested, and moonlight is 40percent. They should fly into the 2nd largest concentration of fresh night fighters he has which does include Denko and Randy versions. My detection level is pretty high, and weather nice....this is a big test to see if night fighters can stop an all out attack and will have great importance in this game...

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RE: Burma Bungle!

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March 25, 1943

More night bombing, this time along with the air bases in northern Burma, 4Es bomb Port Moresby.

After the night bombing major sweeps of Magwe, followed up by heavy bombing runs.

And then, in the quiet Marshalls, a few CVs rush forward for sweeps.

Overall, I am pretty happy with the days carnage in the air.



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Duplicate post. Oops.



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The big tanker fights fire nicely, and is now safely in a level 3 Port! Color me stunned.[&o]


I do lose two more PBs to subs, and another xak takes a torpedo but should make port. Time to move the the aerial asw some more.




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The CV or smaller that the sweeps came from...

Moonlight is strong, so we will see if some low level bombing betties can plant some on those ships...



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I reinforced my airbases, although Magwe can only take one more day of pounding before it will shut down. Again. But if I can trade planes almost 1-1 I will take it...

Other than that, more troop movement, a 46-1 attack on 3 isolated Chinese corp plus HQ fails to kill it, and the Tojo IIcs keep flying off the assembly line.

More reinforcements reach Indochina, destined for Burma...what a sinkhole that theater is. Can't wait for the monsoon to start as no one is really going anywhere there.

I am moving the Wake CD unit, from the DEI to somewhere in the Central Pacific area up front...just not sure where yet.

Plane r&d: Oscar IV, Myojo, Betty 3A all advance another month. Night fighter production still agonizingly slow...however, I have enough KAI Dinahs now to create another squadron which will get broken down and go on night CAP.



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RE: Burma Bungle!

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March 26,1943

Another very bloody air war day. At this pace I will top 10,000 planes lost in a day or two.[X(]

The night bombing grows, with airfield raids all over the perimeter except for the Kuriles. North Burma, Port Moresby, Marshalls. I have got some fighters at Lanchow, Canton but they are not yet protected for night bombing.

After the seemingly endless night bombing, fighter sweeps hit north Burma again, and in stunning display of ganging up the Corsairs come first and are alone & outnumbered == I only lose two fighters for each Corsair. Not bad...but then of course other sweeps hit.

One of two CA forces is spotted in the Indian Ocean, and the air transports are moved back to Ledo where I will attempt a bombing run on them today...


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The R&D race is on, Japan is really banking all of their 1945 marbles on these two planes.

The Tojo IIc has yet to make its combat appearance, but they will shortly.

Unfortunately, I have had to pull my planes back off the front lines again and rely upon Japan's feeble AA to protect bases. The combination of constant night air attacks and daytime sweeps is simply to hard for me to defend against.

I did sneak a few units forward for naval strikes in Burma area...the Allies get so focused upon one area they often neglect a comprehensive defense. No enemy fighters at Ledo for example, and I hope to pull off a surprise or two...





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China

In the central plains...

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RE: Burma Bungle!

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March 27, 1943

More aerial night bombing at Port Moresby. I tried putting some A6M5c on with the KAI Dinah, and all that happened is some Dinahs got shot down.

No night raids in Burma, but lots of day raids. Allies sweep Magwe, undefended. But, instead of bombing Magwe they bomb troops at Prome and the airfield at Chiang Mai, pretty much closing it.

Fortunately, while the Allies were a day late, as the Betties were over Ledo where they punished the lightly defended airfield catching a huge number of transports! Banzai!

I will have to empty Chiang Mai, but what a success.[:D]

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RE: Burma Bungle!

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China

In the central plains...

Is he bombing your troops in the plains from India? I would have thought Lightnings, 4E bombers, the latest Wellingtons could all reach and would be more effective than hitting Jungle in Burma.
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China

In the central plains...

Is he bombing your troops in the plains from India? I would have thought Lightnings, 4E bombers, the latest Wellingtons could all reach and would be more effective than hitting Jungle in Burma.

Nope, he has not been using anything in China...he seems resigned to sitting in place with most of the units and trying to cut supply with bypassed troops.
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RE: Burma Bungle!

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On the bad news side of the turn, I lost a recently converted standard A tanker near Samah despite strong ASW presence...it was full of oil.[:(]

Well, we will see what the Allies focus on in burma now: airfield destruction, fighter destruction, ground force destruction, industry destruction? I have pretty much moved my air force out and back. My guess is he will start bombing my forces at Prome.

I have two CA forces assembling off Akyab for a bombardment run...

Still trying to destroy 3 Chinese Corp and 1 HQ. 66-1 odds I think last turn, 0 defending AV, and still they won't retreat or surrender. Trying again today.

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I am definitely starting to feel spied upon....

Allied naval search is making it very difficult to move about undetected both here in the Marshalls and also in the Bay of Bengal.

I am trying to find a home for the KB...maybe Kavieng?

There will be another invasion in the Marshall shortly...I think I am forestalling him a little because he spots my naval strength in the area enough and has responded by trying to draw me into his land base air coverage with bait and swarming submarines.

I remember Wargamer's use of subs in the DEI and it is scary.





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RE: Burma Bungle!

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March 28, 1943

No night bombings, anywhere.

Instead, the Allied bomber forces hit several different airfields in Burma along with several sweeps of bases. For the most part the Japanese fighters don't engage, and the fields rely upon their AA for defense. Note that there are planes back at Akyab again -- which is odd since the Allies know there are surface ships prowling the Bay of Bengal.

At Ledo, there are still 10 bombers present, but no fighters...

In the Marshalls, Ailinglap is bombed and swept heavily, again there is no defense other than local AA units.

Odd, having a day where less than 10 planes are lost on both sides!


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RE: Burma Bungle!

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Odd, having a day where less than 10 planes are lost on both sides!

Contrasts, in my game 16 days since the last time total air loss on a day was 10 or more.[:D]
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