The Shogunate Returns-R III (J) vs JocMeister(A)

[Richard III]

The Shogunate Returns

Jocke was kind enough to accept a PBEM with some revisions from his original requests.

This is DBB DalronBabes -A ( based in parts on Stock Scen, 2 ) with the DB stacking mod.

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Scenario 30 with StackingLimits (DaIron Babes)
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FOW ON
Advanced Weather ON
Allied damage control ON
PDU OFF
historical first turn OFF
Dec 7 surprise ON
reliable USN torps OFF
realistic R&D ON
no unit withdrawals OFF

combat reports ON
auto sub ops OFF
TF move radius ON
plane move radius ON
facilities expand OFF
auto upgrade ships and airgroups OFF
auto air and ground replacements OFF


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First turn HRs
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1 CV port strike on turn 1
Only existing Allied TFs can move on first turn.
Only orders for allied units in China on first turn allowed.
No resetting of Air Group Orders
No hunting of US Carrier TF `s.
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Game HRs
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Max altitude for all Aircraft according to year. (41-43 Max 25k. 44-46 Max 35k)

No 4Es below 10k (Port, ground, Naval attack) except navy ones.
Restricted units must pay PPs to cross national borders

No Manchurian Heavy Artillery in China (fine outside China)

No more then two tank RGTs per hex in China (no limitations outside China)

No strategic bombing by either side until 1/1/43.
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This is likly to be a sporadic AAR, perhaps with some Role Playing on my part as The Imperial Japanese Navy General Staff . It is the highest organ within the Imperial Japanese Navy. A highly professional organazation, ( unlike those yes-men around that Fanatic Isoroku Yamamoto ) we are in charge of planning and operations, it is headed by an Admiral headquartered in Tokyo.

All comments, advice, questions and humor very welcome as I look at setting up.... The First Turn.....

A rare picture of my Planning Staff around me...

[Richard III]

The Shogunate Decides.

War has come due to the provocations of the American Imperialists and their lackey British and Dutch puppets.

The Imperial Japanese Navy General Staff has been charged with forming the War Plans.
Are options are:

1: A strike on Pearl Harbor by the massed Kido Butai. Advantages are, if reasonably successful, the American Battle Line and several Fleet Carriers will be out of the War for at least a year, or sunk outright. Disadvantages are the KB will be away from the main theatres of war for weeks and the operation is very high risk.

1a: A PH strike less the Kaga, the slowest of the KB, but with a powerful air group, it would be useful elsewhere.

2. The full KB moves to Malaya to support out operations against Singapore and the DEI by suppressing the British and Dutch airpower. We see many advantages here. No serious LBA and surface force opposition. Close to the main areas of fighting, and able to be supported by our long range Naval Bombers.

2a. As above, again less the Kaga.

3: The KB is split, with Car. Div. 2 & 3 to Malaya ( as above ) and Car. Div. 1 launches a mass port attack on Manila to eliminate the US surface fleet and it`s Submarine Fleet. Later it will support the Amphibious operations of the Army in the PI and China Sea.

Any thoughts on all this ?

[obvert]

Depends on your second tier objectives. If you want to hit India or OZ I'd go with a part of the KB at least in the DEI to get it done faster. If you're content with historical, ht a bunch of PBY and sink a few ships at PH, while maybe another smaller strike hits Manila to get subs and something is still in the DEI to deal with Force Z.

Is there a plan yet for post-SRA moves?

[Richard III]

Thanks Obvert.

The debate rages here at INJGS HQ.on post SRA.

The Modest Plans:

1: After clearing Singers, a move into the Indian Ocean by part of KB with a view to occupying Ceylon, and minor operations on the India sub continent coasts. The Army likes this.

1a: As above, but All In in India to knock it out of the War. The Army Hates this...

2: Operation's to isolate Australia from the US. Minor incursions on the Coasts to damage their future mobilization and protect the DEI Oil centers. The Army like this.

2a. As above but All In into Australia....[;)]

3. Then there is always Operation MI, to try and Force a Fleet CV action, and isolate PH.

I always liked this one....[8D]

[obvert]

How would you do 3? Seems this is up to the Alliedplayer without the other numbers involved. So if you're not going all-in OZ or India, how can you be sure the Allies will come out to play?

[Chickenboy]

Hiya Richard III,

Go get 'em tiger! BANZAI!

I'm a long-time advocate of whacking the USN fleet at Manila en route to clearing the DEI and / or supporting SOPAC advances with the KB. Other Japanese players have had very successful PH attacks-nothing wrong with wrecking the fleet there either. I agree with Obvert though-it's nice to have the surety of KB around the DEI if you're planning on an Indian / Ceylon excursion soon.

[KenchiSulla]

Simple

[Mundy]

For now...
 
[:D]

Ed-

[Richard III]

ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder

Simple

[:D][&o]

R.

[KenchiSulla]

ORIGINAL: Mundy

For now...

[:D]

Ed-

We are working on mining the entire island to make it sink into the ocean when the time comes....

[KenchiSulla]

Richard,

My game versus Quixote opened my eyes... Singapore must fall as quickly as possible. This creates so many chances it makes my head spin... Your initial efforts should be directed into securing it but you do not need all six fleet carriers! Three to four should be sufficient.

Pearl Harbor? Side show....

[Richard III]

ORIGINAL: obvert

How would you do 3? Seems this is up to the Alliedplayer without the other numbers involved. So if you're not going all-in OZ or India, how can you be sure the Allies will come out to play?

Midway, along with Palmyra Atoll,Johnston Atoll, maybe some of SOPAC....

Either he fights in `42 or`43 or waits on the Essex`s and Hellcats.

I want the Allied player to start watching the Clock for a change, instead of us. Run him out of time.[8D]

Rare Pic of Our Command Center...

[Richard III]

ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder

Richard,

My game versus Quixote opened my eyes... Singapore must fall as quickly as possible. This creates so many chances it makes my head spin... Your initial efforts should be directed into securing it but you do not need all six fleet carriers! Three to four should be sufficient.

Pearl Harbor? Side show....

Well Joc has T 1..... if I didn`t break it with excess tinkering,, we will soon see.[8D]

Yes. Singers is the Key !

[HansBolter]

So can you please explain how you get Australian planes (Dark green icon) and British ships (tan icon) at Japanese controlled bases?

Nothing about your screenshots ever makes even a bit of sense.

[Richard III]

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

So can you please explain how you get Australian planes (Dark green icon) and British ships (tan icon) at Japanese controlled bases?

Nothing about your screenshots ever makes even a bit of sense.

Not Guilty Hans...[:'(]

That`s a mod pic from CF`s current game.
R.III

[HansBolter]

ORIGINAL: Richard III

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

So can you please explain how you get Australian planes (Dark green icon) and British ships (tan icon) at Japanese controlled bases?

Nothing about your screenshots ever makes even a bit of sense.

Not Guilty Hans...[:'(]

That`s a mod pic from CF`s current game.
R.III

Yea, the dig was aimed at Cannonfodder. His modified map screenshots always have the colors wrong making it impossible to intuitively recognize what anything is.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: Richard III

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

So can you please explain how you get Australian planes (Dark green icon) and British ships (tan icon) at Japanese controlled bases?

Nothing about your screenshots ever makes even a bit of sense.

Not Guilty Hans...[:'(]

That`s a mod pic from CF`s current game.
R.III

Yea, the dig was aimed at Cannonfodder. His modified map screenshots always have the colors wrong making it impossible to intuitively recognize what anything is.

My guess is he modified the image files.

[KenchiSulla]

Hans, its not that hard, really... Since Japanese bases can't hold Australian aircraft you intuitively know that they must be non-allied aircraft...

[:'(]

[HansBolter]

ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder

Hans, its not that hard, really... Since Japanese bases can't hold Australian aircraft you intuitively know that they must be non-allied aircraft...

[:'(]

Indeed, but I just can't resist the temptation to keep pointing out how silly it looks.

Simply jesting in the spirit of good fun. [:D]

Heck, I know no one here ever takes me seriously anyway.

Someone mentioned once it may have something to do with the screen capture program you use.

[Richard III]

Much Banzai badness....with A Great Deal of undeserved Luck !

The important Combat Reports.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 07, 41
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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
G3M2 Nell x 9
G4M1 Betty x 52
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AO Pecos, Bomb hits 1
AV Langley, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Seadragon, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
PG Isabel, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Mindanao, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AM Tanager, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AVD Childs, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Sailfish, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
SS Spearfish, Bomb hits 1
SS Sculpin, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS Permit, Bomb hits 1
SS Shark, Bomb hits 1
SS Tarpon, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Ethel Edwards, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS S-41, Bomb hits 1
SS Snapper, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage

Repair Shipyard hits 3
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1

Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
G3M2 Nell x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
SS Searaven, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AM Bittern, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAP Don Esteban, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SS Swordfish, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
xAP Rochambeau, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Sargo, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AVD Childs, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Toboali at 51,93

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
B5N2 Kate x 65
D3A1 Val x 47

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 5 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 4 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 7 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Walrus II: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BC Repulse, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 7, and is sunk
BB Prince of Wales, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 8, and is sunk
CL Danae, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
DD Tenedos
DD Vampire
DD Express

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
13 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
13 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
12 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
13 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Danae