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RE: Burma Bungle!
[quote]ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
I'd also look out during any fleet engagements. He could just have decided to give up on hitting your bases, and instead decided that he wants to swarm your fleet during battles. [quote]
This has the ring of truth and would coincide with his first major major counteroffensive using new toys. I am sure he wants my carriers...
RE: Burma Bungle!
May 20th, 1943
Tokyo:
Admiral Yamamoto, immaculate in his white dress uniform complete down to his white gloves, which covered his honor wound from so long ago, listened to the Army officer give another glowing report on the victories in China while he looked at the trees beginning to bloom in the courtyard below. Blossoms. Tokyo in the springtime.
“Admiral?” General Terauchi said again, for the third time, “Do you not think this is now the time to launch operation “Rising Sun? We are victorious everywhere, and need Ceylon to forestall any attacks from the pitiful British. It will make a wonderful Naval Base. Yes?”
“I think the leaves are beginning to fall.”
“What silliness is this Admiral! It is May, the tress are only now showing their full promise.”
“Winter will be here very soon, and it will be a hard winter. “ And then softer,
“very hard.”
“Admiral, cease these ruminations on the weather and let us return to the cold hard facts of this war that we are so clearly winning!. We need to plan our next offensive to bring glory to the Emperor!”
Yamamoto left the window, returned to his seat and nodded his head to his aide, who promptly started distributing several reports. The aide informed that these are the latest reports from Burma.
“General, we must seek an immediate negotiated peace!.” Yamamoto almost sighed, he spoke it so softly for now the Army would redouble their efforts to end him.
“You are a defeatist Admiral” roared Terauchi.
“You misunderstand me, General. This is the decisive battle and when we win the time will be ripe for a negotiated peace to assure our gains.” Yamamoto words were steely and hard, and Terauchi could not long look into his eyes, which was a good thing, because there deep in the Admiral’s eyes were a field of seeds growing…seeds of doubt and foreboding.
Tokyo:
Admiral Yamamoto, immaculate in his white dress uniform complete down to his white gloves, which covered his honor wound from so long ago, listened to the Army officer give another glowing report on the victories in China while he looked at the trees beginning to bloom in the courtyard below. Blossoms. Tokyo in the springtime.
“Admiral?” General Terauchi said again, for the third time, “Do you not think this is now the time to launch operation “Rising Sun? We are victorious everywhere, and need Ceylon to forestall any attacks from the pitiful British. It will make a wonderful Naval Base. Yes?”
“I think the leaves are beginning to fall.”
“What silliness is this Admiral! It is May, the tress are only now showing their full promise.”
“Winter will be here very soon, and it will be a hard winter. “ And then softer,
“very hard.”
“Admiral, cease these ruminations on the weather and let us return to the cold hard facts of this war that we are so clearly winning!. We need to plan our next offensive to bring glory to the Emperor!”
Yamamoto left the window, returned to his seat and nodded his head to his aide, who promptly started distributing several reports. The aide informed that these are the latest reports from Burma.
“General, we must seek an immediate negotiated peace!.” Yamamoto almost sighed, he spoke it so softly for now the Army would redouble their efforts to end him.
“You are a defeatist Admiral” roared Terauchi.
“You misunderstand me, General. This is the decisive battle and when we win the time will be ripe for a negotiated peace to assure our gains.” Yamamoto words were steely and hard, and Terauchi could not long look into his eyes, which was a good thing, because there deep in the Admiral’s eyes were a field of seeds growing…seeds of doubt and foreboding.
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"The Gulf of Siam" Captain Hattori thought to himself. At least the fleet wasn't still at Kavieng.
"Sir, we haven't finished bringing aboard all the new torpedo bombers."
"No matter...time is of the essence. The Shokaku must be ready to leave with the rest. We will not be late." Hattori felt this deep in his bones, in his right hand an emergency flash directive from the Admiral...Hattori was reflexively crumpling it.
"Sir, we haven't finished bringing aboard all the new torpedo bombers."
"No matter...time is of the essence. The Shokaku must be ready to leave with the rest. We will not be late." Hattori felt this deep in his bones, in his right hand an emergency flash directive from the Admiral...Hattori was reflexively crumpling it.
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The alarm was sounded, another practice, and once again the crack 21st Division exceeded all expectations. "Not surprising," thought General Tanaka from his observation post, hero of Broome and Java. These men had snatched victory from the jaws of defeat too many times to falter now.
Moulmein was ready. But points south? Hm...would the Navy get here in time?
Moulmein was ready. But points south? Hm...would the Navy get here in time?
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Not much happened in the turn: Allied bombers did a half hearted night bombing on Uttardit which the KAI Dinah negated; and then some Lightnings swept Roi which had a few Zeroes shot down.
I did lose an xak to a submarine near Ternate. Destroyers punished two or three American submarines.
In pondering the Burma report, which has gotten Admiral Yamamoto so excited, I feel that the most likely outcome is a naval invasion of Ramree although he is not bombing the troops there yet. He did bomb the airfield several days ago. I have flown out splinters of most units there. I feel this way since his search and recon is so weak down past Moulmein.
However, since I am almost always wrong, we will assume the worst an invasion of Tavoy, too.
Now the question is do I strike now...or wait a day?
I did lose an xak to a submarine near Ternate. Destroyers punished two or three American submarines.
In pondering the Burma report, which has gotten Admiral Yamamoto so excited, I feel that the most likely outcome is a naval invasion of Ramree although he is not bombing the troops there yet. He did bomb the airfield several days ago. I have flown out splinters of most units there. I feel this way since his search and recon is so weak down past Moulmein.
However, since I am almost always wrong, we will assume the worst an invasion of Tavoy, too.
Now the question is do I strike now...or wait a day?
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Doctor X snored himself awake. Startled, and blurry, he looked at his surroundings. Ah, yes, in the lab. Asleep in the lab again. He grabbed his coke bottle glasses and inspected the drawings he had been working on. Er, sleeping on.
They were disfigured. He had drooled on them...but, upon looking closer, the shape was intriguing. Yes, if the nozzle was shaped like that then the efficiency of the chamber could be increased...Yes, Yes, Yes!
Of such small things are breakthrough made. The Toko rocket advances again.
They were disfigured. He had drooled on them...but, upon looking closer, the shape was intriguing. Yes, if the nozzle was shaped like that then the efficiency of the chamber could be increased...Yes, Yes, Yes!
Of such small things are breakthrough made. The Toko rocket advances again.
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Singapore:
Warrant Officer Oichi looked at the crates. Hundreds of them all labelled. His mechanics were busy sorting and organizing before the hard work of assembly began.
"Will they be ready in time?" the Captain asked. "We might have to fly at a moments notice!"
"I simply do not know, Captain. We have never assembled these before. The G4M3A is new to us. It looks like parts are missing. Something goes here and I do not know what it is" Oichi responded showing the Captain some diagrams.
"No doubt a future enhancement, Oichi. Now do your best. Let me know as soon as one is fully assembled. I will be at the hotel. They serve such wonderful drinks there and I will buy you one when the squadron is ready!"
Warrant Officer Oichi looked at the crates. Hundreds of them all labelled. His mechanics were busy sorting and organizing before the hard work of assembly began.
"Will they be ready in time?" the Captain asked. "We might have to fly at a moments notice!"
"I simply do not know, Captain. We have never assembled these before. The G4M3A is new to us. It looks like parts are missing. Something goes here and I do not know what it is" Oichi responded showing the Captain some diagrams.
"No doubt a future enhancement, Oichi. Now do your best. Let me know as soon as one is fully assembled. I will be at the hotel. They serve such wonderful drinks there and I will buy you one when the squadron is ready!"
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Captain Takayanagi looked over his task force and smiled. This was Japan's secret weapons steaming to war.
They had fired their guns in anger only a few times: bombarding Soerabaja, the Americans in the Kuriles and sinking the British light cruisers in the Bay of Bengal. But now, the Yamato was joined by her sister ship Musashi and together they would be unstoppable.
It was too bad the Prince of Wales was in drydock for Takayanagi wanted to cross swords with that one. But there were reports of newer American battleships out and about. They would have to do.
Now to avoid the American submarines and arrive in time for battle!
They had fired their guns in anger only a few times: bombarding Soerabaja, the Americans in the Kuriles and sinking the British light cruisers in the Bay of Bengal. But now, the Yamato was joined by her sister ship Musashi and together they would be unstoppable.
It was too bad the Prince of Wales was in drydock for Takayanagi wanted to cross swords with that one. But there were reports of newer American battleships out and about. They would have to do.
Now to avoid the American submarines and arrive in time for battle!
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May 21, 1943
Tokyo
The Admiral signed off on the attack orders. He had waited a day, not because he wasn't ready, but to watch and observe. The dispatches were quickly encoded and transmitted for Moulmein and points west. Tomorrow would be the day...
The Admiral then glanced at a routine report from a destroyer near Singapore. Engaged an American submarine on the surface. Well, pretty quiet for today then, but tomorrow the die had been thrown.
Hm., a gambling analogy. Sounds like just the thing to pass the time with.
Tokyo
The Admiral signed off on the attack orders. He had waited a day, not because he wasn't ready, but to watch and observe. The dispatches were quickly encoded and transmitted for Moulmein and points west. Tomorrow would be the day...
The Admiral then glanced at a routine report from a destroyer near Singapore. Engaged an American submarine on the surface. Well, pretty quiet for today then, but tomorrow the die had been thrown.
Hm., a gambling analogy. Sounds like just the thing to pass the time with.
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TOP SECRET: FLASH: Target Akyab! Most urgent!
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In other news around the Empire:
Allies bomb Kusaie catching some Emilies on the ground, damaging them.
Uttardit is bombed at night again, heavier, and two Zeroes are lost on the ground. I need more AA there, the coverage is light, but once again the KAI Dinah rises to the challenge disrupting every single attack.
Nauru: American ships try to clear the minefields are hit by mines and coastal guns. Sinking sounds heard, but no survivors washed up on shore.
Allies bomb Kusaie catching some Emilies on the ground, damaging them.
Uttardit is bombed at night again, heavier, and two Zeroes are lost on the ground. I need more AA there, the coverage is light, but once again the KAI Dinah rises to the challenge disrupting every single attack.
Nauru: American ships try to clear the minefields are hit by mines and coastal guns. Sinking sounds heard, but no survivors washed up on shore.
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This exercise in Burma has shown me that I am woefully short fighter escorts. I am not all that low on fighters anymore, thanks to avoiding Allied sweeps for almost 2 months, but I simply don't have enough escorts to guide the planes in, especially when I have to break the attack down among many fields.
I will step up my plans to convert bomber squadrons to fighter bombers and eat the hefty 270 point conversion cost. No choice really...
I have had to hold back more than 70% of my strike bombers from attacking in Burma for lack of fighter escorts.
I will step up my plans to convert bomber squadrons to fighter bombers and eat the hefty 270 point conversion cost. No choice really...
I have had to hold back more than 70% of my strike bombers from attacking in Burma for lack of fighter escorts.
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RE: Burma Bungle!
ORIGINAL: JocMeister
Good luck Lowpe! [8D]
Thanks, flying offensive missions in the monsoon with advance weather off -- I need all the luck I can get. However, all the bases I am flying from don't say Monsoon on the bottom.
If I timed this right, my planes might hit his ships either at Ramree or over the water.
I carefully set distance to not hit the BB fleet at Chittagong unless they move south. Every recon plane of Chittagong has been shot down.
Correction on my bomber count; I sent 100 Betties in.
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May 23, 1943
A few night attacks again on Uttardit. No lasting damage.
Dawn breaks, and scouting reports show the Allied Battleship fleet of death moving down to Akyab. The order is given fly, fly.
And die, die! All strikes from the four different bases go in separately, not unexpected, but the enemy has bolstered their CAP too.
The Kates are the first to arrive over the target and the escorting fighters (67) are simply to few.
Vals show up next, and only 38 escorting fighters sortie with them. They are brave though, and penetrate the fighter screen scoring a hit on an xak.
The Betties show third, and with the longest way to fly, they have the fewest escorts. A second group of Betties try to go in unescorted with predictable results.
In the Afternoon the Vals try again, followed by the Lilly IIb, whose fighters (some 70) sweep ahead and despite fearsome losses at least a few Lillis make bombing runs.
140 Allied fighters inflict a blood bath on the combined IJAAF and IJNAF.
Subs prowl the waters around Akyab trying to rescue flight crews, and one of the subs put a torpedo into the previously damaged xak sinking her. An expensive ship.
A few night attacks again on Uttardit. No lasting damage.
Dawn breaks, and scouting reports show the Allied Battleship fleet of death moving down to Akyab. The order is given fly, fly.
And die, die! All strikes from the four different bases go in separately, not unexpected, but the enemy has bolstered their CAP too.
The Kates are the first to arrive over the target and the escorting fighters (67) are simply to few.
Vals show up next, and only 38 escorting fighters sortie with them. They are brave though, and penetrate the fighter screen scoring a hit on an xak.
The Betties show third, and with the longest way to fly, they have the fewest escorts. A second group of Betties try to go in unescorted with predictable results.
In the Afternoon the Vals try again, followed by the Lilly IIb, whose fighters (some 70) sweep ahead and despite fearsome losses at least a few Lillis make bombing runs.
140 Allied fighters inflict a blood bath on the combined IJAAF and IJNAF.
Subs prowl the waters around Akyab trying to rescue flight crews, and one of the subs put a torpedo into the previously damaged xak sinking her. An expensive ship.
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RE: Burma Bungle!
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Looks like the opponent is quite versed in base defense. Need to do much more sweeping if this kind of attack has any chance. That said, you are at the part of the game where it gets very tough to do exactly what you are trying to do.
Looks like the opponent is quite versed in base defense. Need to do much more sweeping if this kind of attack has any chance. That said, you are at the part of the game where it gets very tough to do exactly what you are trying to do.
Andy M
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Setback. If I would have flown the day previously I would have faced on 50 enemy fighters. Ah well.
During the rest of the day the Allies bomb Rangoon.
Ok any guesses on where the fleet is going? Ramree? Rangoon? Moulmein? Tavoy? Mergui? Victoria Point?
Emergency exit Burma plan initiated! Rebuild the air force...I still have plenty of bombers (Betty, Val, Kates, Lilly IIb) left to throw at them...but it looks like I need 300 fighters to penetrate the CAP.
During the rest of the day the Allies bomb Rangoon.
Ok any guesses on where the fleet is going? Ramree? Rangoon? Moulmein? Tavoy? Mergui? Victoria Point?
Emergency exit Burma plan initiated! Rebuild the air force...I still have plenty of bombers (Betty, Val, Kates, Lilly IIb) left to throw at them...but it looks like I need 300 fighters to penetrate the CAP.