I'm done with this ridiculous time vampire of a game.

[decaro]

This has to be one of the best threads I've seen in a long time in any Matrix forum; it should be "stickied" and properly captioned.

[1EyedJacks]

ORIGINAL: Symon

ORIGINAL: geofflambert
You're ancient. I started with Fortran and stacks of punch cards five inches thick to simulate a game of tic-tac-toe. [:D]

Ok. Lots of people pretend to know about the old days. This is a test. They weren't stacks, they were called decks. Why? There was a specific machine that made them, What was it called? There was a container that people carried, that identified them as geeks. What was it? What color was it? And then, once upon a time, in a place far away, you could hook up with the Dartmouth computer center using a Beehive. What was that? And how was it different? And how could you whack your Phys Prof to give you a cookie?

When I was in school (early 80s) we used a System/360 that had the 2540 card reader punch.

I can’t tell you about Dartmouth but the beehive was a peer-to-peer network. At our school we used dummy terminals on a Bus topology network for the most part. The instructors believed in the KISS principle. Getting time to spend on a BBS was considered a treat.

I attended a VocTech school (Computer Operations & Programming) so the whole physics/cookie thing is over my head. If you were talking topology my WAG would be a reference to a token ring.

Carrying the decks we used cardboard boxes. If they had a name other than a ‘card box’ or 'deck of cards'I never heard it. We would draw lines along the edges of the cards so we could get them in order again if a deck hit the floor. We always called a group of cards a deck. A group of cards was a program or series of programs related to each other. I guess I always thought the term ‘deck’ was more a reference to a Pinochle or Poker deck of cards than anything else.

[Rising-Sun]

You guys really shot up his thread, I am surprised that chazz never reply yet. Arent we suppose to help him?

[wdolson]

I suspect he left the forum. He hasn't logged on since his "I quit" message.

I never like to see anyone leave in a huff, but this game is not for everyone. He may have been getting frustrated with the pace before he quit and losing the CV battle was just the last straw.

I tried introducing a friend who was very into WW II to the original WitP and he just got overwhelmed and quit after about an hour. I couldn't get him to even consider a second look. His favorite game is flying an air combat simulator. He plays little else.

Bill

[m10bob]

ORIGINAL: wdolson

I suspect he left the forum. He hasn't logged on since his "I quit" message.

I never like to see anyone leave in a huff, but this game is not for everyone. He may have been getting frustrated with the pace before he quit and losing the CV battle was just the last straw.

I tried introducing a friend who was very into WW II to the original WitP and he just got overwhelmed and quit after about an hour. I couldn't get him to even consider a second look. His favorite game is flying an air combat simulator. He plays little else.

Bill

That's a shame Bill.....with all the game has to offer..Maybe your friend is just into tactical games rather than Strategic??
Too...we all know how intricately detailed this game is..I have NEVER played a game of WITP without feeling I failed to give orders to at least one unit on every single turn.........[:D]

[CrackSabbath]

Back in the day my pappy told me you can find sympathy in the dictionary between s**t and syphilis.

[AW1Steve]

A lot of people just can't handle the incredible micromanagement this game requires. I ALMOST can't. If there was a way I could just tell an underling (or a computer) "you handle Russia. And China. And submarine patterns. And maintenance". I'd say "you got it!" And be one heck of a lot happier. [:D]

[KenchiSulla]

I think this game teaches you to let go at times.. Sure, there is always something left to do but some things, much like real life, can wait... and life will go on

[DaveConn]

+1 to CF. My attitude is that "you don't have to do everything every turn; you just have to do SOMETHING every turn."

--Dave

[zuluhour]

I always assume if I have something floating, I didn't lose. 

[Walker84]

It's the most engrossing and best game I've ever played (at least since SPI's War in the East counter-based game that my teenage self played against my father in the 1970's). But it is one helluva commitment and can be distressing when the die rolls go against you. After Midway, a Signals Intelligence operator overheard the Kaigun declaring "we're done with this ridiculous vampire squid of a USN carrier force...."

[wdolson]

ORIGINAL: wdolson

I suspect he left the forum. He hasn't logged on since his "I quit" message.

I never like to see anyone leave in a huff, but this game is not for everyone. He may have been getting frustrated with the pace before he quit and losing the CV battle was just the last straw.

I tried introducing a friend who was very into WW II to the original WitP and he just got overwhelmed and quit after about an hour. I couldn't get him to even consider a second look. His favorite game is flying an air combat simulator. He plays little else.

Bill

ORIGINAL: m10bob
That's a shame Bill.....with all the game has to offer..Maybe your friend is just into tactical games rather than Strategic??
Too...we all know how intricately detailed this game is..I have NEVER played a game of WITP without feeling I failed to give orders to at least one unit on every single turn.........[:D]

He is more tactically minded than strategic.

I'm the same way you are. Turns without much going on are opportunities to deal with those back burner management issues you have been putting off.

Bill

[Mac Linehan]

ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder

I think this game teaches you to let go at times.. Sure, there is always something left to do but some things, much like real life, can wait... and life will go on

CF - very well put. That is exactly what I am trying to learn to do. I love the micromanagement, but pay the price in the time it takes me to do a turn (campaign game). There is progress, I am down to two to three hours if I don't mess around (read or look up various concepts or subjects on the forum).

AE is a phenomenal game. I do (and have been) taking a break by playing something else; but AE always pulls me back.

This past week, while waiting for the weekend (when Life Begins), I have spent time considering how to slow down the Japanese advance in the DEI (mid Jan 42, Scn 50). Will do a turn tomorrow morning after walking the dogs.

This is a great thread - very informative and entertaining.

Mac

[chemkid]

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[Rising-Sun]

Well WitP:AE is a good strategy game and yes it does require a lot of micromanagements though. If you were in real war situations back then, you will be sitting down trying to figure things out as a leader.

I love it, just want to finish my maps first before I attempt to go back in there.

[Trugrit]

Friends, forumites, countrymen, lend me your ears;
chazz came to abandon WIPAE, not to praise it;
The evil that some video games do lives after them,
The good is oft interred with their bones,
So let it be with WIPAE… The noble chazz
Hath told you WIPAE was a time vampire:
If it were so, is it a grievous fault?
Yet chazz says it is a time vampire;
And, sure, he is an honorable man.
I speak not to disprove what chazz spoke,
But here I am to speak what I do know.
You all do love WIPAE, not without cause:
What cause can withhold you then to speak for it?
To go off topic?
O judgement! thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason…. Bear with me;
My heart is with WIPAE,
And I must pause till it come back to me.

To play, or not to play: that is the question:
Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous carrier fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of task force troubles,
And by opposing - end them?
To sink and then to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand dive bomber shocks that flesh is heir to,
’tis a consummation devoutly to be wish’d?

Yeah?

[Symon]

ORIGINAL: Trugrit
Yeah?

Marcus Junius Brutus and the Ghost:
B - How ill this taper burns!—Ha, who comes here? I think it is the weakness of mine eyes that shapes this monstrous apparition. It comes upon me.—Art thou any thing? Art thou some god, some angel, or some devil t hat makest my blood cold and my hair to stare?
Speak to me what thou art.
G - Thy evil spirit, Brutus.
B - Why comest thou?
G - To tell thee thou shalt see me at Philippi.
B - Well, then I shall see thee again?
G - Ay, at Philippi.
B - Why, I will see thee at Philippi, then.

Marcus Junius Brutus and Gaius Cassius Longinus:
B - Even by the rule of that philosophy; By which I did blame Cato for the death which he did give himself (I know not how, but I do find it cowardly and vile, for fear of what might fall, so to prevent the time of life), arming myself with patience; to stay the providence of some high powers, that govern us below.
C - Then if we lose this battle, you are contented to be led in triumph thorough the streets of Rome?
B- No, Cassius, no. do not imagine that I’ll ever allow myself to return to Rome in chains. My mind is too great for that. But today, the work that March 15th began must end, and I don’t know if we’ll meet again. Therefore, accept my everlasting farewell. Forever and forever, farewell, Cassius! If we meet again, then we’ll smile. If not, then this parting was well done.
C - Forever and forever farewell, Brutus. If we do meet again, we’ll smile indeed. If not, ’tis true this parting was well made.

Yeah! [8D]

[m10bob]

That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man’s company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call’d the feast of gamer's munchies.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam’d,
And rouse him at the name of GAMING.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say “To-morrow is gaming day.”
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say “These wounds I had on gaming day.”
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he’ll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
JWilkerson,WDolson,Terminus,Andrew Brown,TheElf,Eric Rutins,etc.
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb’red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And gaming day shall ne’er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in Gameland now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon this gaming day.


(With apologies to Mr Shakespeare and the fantastic St Crispians' Day speech from Henry Vth)..

[AW1Steve]

Urk?

[1EyedJacks]

kill them all and let god sort out the righteous.
War is hell and it's been a hell of a week.
The sneaky Bass Turds - they came from behind me and out of the sun.
Grenades are much more fun than horseshoes.
The automatic was invented for people with poor eye-finger coordination.
It's a jungle out there.
Said Arty, "We've got the guns, the guns that go boom! No bang-bang, no rat-at-at, we make the big boom!"
Shoot, move, and communicate - it's how we stay alive out here.
We will, we will - rock you.
My, what big eyes you have! I'm wearing field glasses - stupid.