Your Worst Blunder

[Irinami]

Originally posted by BlueLavender

any more common mistakes when playing Japan ?

Yes...

Your tanks are NOT anti-armour units. Even your late-war ones are at best comparable to the M-4. Japanese anti-tank tactics consist of luring the tanks, suppressing them with firepower, then keeping them suppressed with constant assaults.

Your ATR's do not have HE ammo in 7.x... only in H2H. :p Related, your ATR's are stealthier and more survivable than your first AT gun.

Don't count on Banzai.

Oh yeah, and...

Your tanks really, really aren't anti-armour units.

[mogami]

Hi My orders were to advance, I deployed my 6 inf companies and 14 T-34s 6AT guns 6MG 6 scout patrols had arty fire on objectives and surrounding hills. Turn one moved scouts,
received small arms fire. Turn two had FO call for arty on visible enemy, then the nightmare began short and horrid 12 German AC attacked....heard music.... screen changed to crushing defeat. My Bns are gone


(From thread "Shortest Battle Ever" Oct 2000 Version 4.3)

[MOTHER]

BURMA 6/43 JAP[ME] V UK/INDIA.MAP WAS A JUNGLE DELTA TYPE TERRAIN AND THE MAIN WATERWAY HAD DEPTH OF -3 WHICH I ASSUMED I COULD USE 3 ARMORED BOATS[WATERBORNE ARMOUR LOGIC] TO DRIVE UP THE RIVER WITH A FOLLOWING DETATCHMENT OF 10 HEAVY DUTY LANDING CRAFT LOADED WITH MARINES AND LAND NEAR THE FAR REAR HEXES IN ADVANTAGEOUS TERRAIN.GUESS WHAT -3 DEPTH MIGHT AS WELL BE THE DEPTH OF A FULL BATHTUB.PRECIOUS POINTS WASTED ON USELESS WATERCRAFT.TROOPS JUST WALKED ACROSS THE WATER AND DID A GOOD OL' FRONTAL ASSAULT.WASNT PRETTY BUT FOR 45 TURNS I WAS CURSING MYSELF. P.S. I RECKON EVERYBODY HAS DONE THE HEAVY BOMBER SCENARIO-WHAT THE?, NO DEPLOY?, ETA AT THE START OF THE GAME!?, AW SCHUCKS!!!.MOTHER

[o4r]

Originally posted by Irinami
Yes...

Your tanks are NOT anti-armour units. Even your late-war ones are at best comparable to the M-4. Japanese anti-tank tactics consist of luring the tanks, suppressing them with firepower, then keeping them suppressed with constant assaults.

Your ATR's do not have HE ammo in 7.x... only in H2H. :p Related, your ATR's are stealthier and more survivable than your first AT gun.

Don't count on Banzai.

Oh yeah, and...

Your tanks really, really aren't anti-armour units.

Japanese tank are best used against Chinese.......

I remember that some Japanese tanks during the final stage of battle recevied so many hit from the M4 that they do not require any cooling system. They're beehive with shell hole. But one thing for sure, why american fired so many shell at them, cause it enter from one side and goes through another when using AP from a 76 mm. Later American learn to use more HE on Japanese tank, it is more effective than AP. I think AP round on Japanese tank is a welcome. At least the commander now has a better view of the battle.

[o4r]

Originally posted by Orzel Bialy
my worst blunder I ever made....Hmmmmm, that would have to be my very first Pbem against Hellcat.

A Rookie goes to War:
Now I had been on the sidelines watching some of these fights for about two weeks as a quest...and I wanted to learn something before I jumped in.

Good Strategy, right?...never rush in and learn from others and then try my hand at it. Anyway, so far so good.

After awhile I register and introduce myself...I think Goblin told me to "shut up" even back then...lol Nahh, actually everyone was really cool and I felt really comfortable...maybe too comfortable.

I kept on getting called out to fight from time to time....especially by some guy named Jess M4, who kept insisting that I fight right away. I can remember hearing something about "fresh meat" quite a bit even back then....so some things never change guess. lol.

Then, after a lot of prodding and some practice against a jacked up AI...I figure I'm ready. Now the question was who? There were not a lot of "newbies" around to fight...so I was going to have to take on one of the vets.
Goblin?...no way, that dude seemed to trounce everyone too bloody awful.
Jess?...no, he was too bloodthirsty and liked M4's
Hellcat?....Hmmm, seemed to be a very talented fighter....not calling for my head on a platter...so yes, I'll accept his challenge.

The Fatal Mistake
My first Pbem...against a vet...and what do I do? I decide to show off my abilities by changing history! I choose the French in 1940!
Oh the laughter that must have ensued after that post! Every member of the forum must haved chuckled and shook their heads when they read that decision. Hellcat himself even tried to get me to reconsider....but noooooo, I stuck to my guns.
So here I was...setting up my French command...thinking that the French units weren't bad, it was the commanders. If I handle them differently....I may be able to win. Ah, so much for dreams!

@sswhoopin' Follows
It didn't take the battle more than six turns to get out of hand. While the French armor showed some staying and hitting power in some cases...the rest of my units were useless.
The infantry units became surpressed to the point of not being able to return fire to even defend themselves...and that was after taking their first hail of enemy fire!
After two or three bursts of fire (or two rounds of arty shelling) they were in full retreat! I mean they ran at the sound of a panzer engine it seems. From there it just got plain ole ugly...and I found myself in command of nothing...since by the end 3/4 of my units were not even under my control due to their 40+ suppression factors!

Anwyay...by the time the smoke cleared it looked like this:
Germany - 5379
Frogs - 1144

Talk about being humbled! Talk about having your @ss handed to you! That was the worst drumming I ever had...and I learned a lot from it!
Not to mention, from that point on I swore I'd never play the French side again (though a morbid side of me still wants to prove I could do better knowing what I know now...even though I tell that voice in my head to Shut Up!)

Anyway...that was my worst blunder!

Well I have played SP 1 to 3 for sometime and gave it to my friend 'cause he love war game. Sometime later he introduced me SPWAW and later we tried our first game. We decided to try something new rather than the common unit of German vs russian American.

I used Italy and he used French.

Somehow, French is urinated their pant when seen German but when Italy sees French they drop their pant and urinated.

Try it yourself. I tried it on the computer again and again and after some training try it again with my friend.... I am convience..... Italy is worst than French....

[Klinkenhoffen]

I was playing a PBEM with a friend several years ago. He was playing Germany and I was playing the Soviets. Late war.

I was getting an absolute hammering in the north from his armour and it was starting to look really ugly for me. Down on the south side I had a accompany of T-34’s hidden behind a raised roadway. My scouts had observed what looked like a company of halftracks moving up into position and I intended to ambush them with the T-34’s from behind.

Over the raised road I went with cannons blazing. About four or five halftracks were destroyed, most of their infantry surviving. End Turn.

When I resumed for the next turn not a single T-34 was left alive. He had some armour coming up behind the halftracks that I hadn’t seen and seeing a company of T-34’s with their backs to them took them all out. He even shot up the surviving crews with his infantry.

A lesson well learnt and it all went down hill in that game from there.

[challenge]

Worste mistake?

Downloading game. Used to have free time, a life, friends....

Now there's just SPWAW.

[Bernie]

Originally posted by challenge
Worste mistake?

Downloading game. Used to have free time, a life, friends....

Now there's just SPWAW.

Sounds like you have a good life, and you always have friends here in the forums. As for free time, I think you just used it all posting this message.

Now, back to the game!

[CPT Shoe]

Took me a long time before I discovered that you could order reinforcements.

Critical battle that was small in scale...Spent all my reinforcement points getting a couple of Tigers. When they arrived on the field I started to move them by clicking on the hex next to them...You guessed it, the retreat hex...Off the map goes half of my reinforcements. Always was wondering what those other flags were...

[Capt. Pixel]

Originally posted by CPT Shoe
Took me a long time before I discovered that you could order reinforcements.

Critical battle that was small in scale...Spent all my reinforcement points getting a couple of Tigers. When they arrived on the field I started to move them by clicking on the hex next to them...You guessed it, the retreat hex...Off the map goes half of my reinforcements. Always was wondering what those other flags were...

Oh! OUCH! I did that too. Once. Then I figured it out and never, ever went near that retreat hex again. I'm now VERY sensitive to it's location relative to Reinforcement Hex 1.

[challenge]

I tend to order reinforcements too late to do any good. I just can't seem to get the time lag from call to arrival right. The last game I played was a nightmare using the Russians vs Germans in mid '42. By the time I realized I needed help and called for some heavy tanks, the battle was over except for the mop-up. I ended up an f9 before they arrived -- there was only three or four turns left. Even if they arrived on the board I would never have gotten them to the front on time.

This was against Brian, forget what his handle is, and it was his first fight against a human. I learned two things. One: noobs can be better than you expect; two: Russians in pre '43 don't do squat if not on the defense.

Good fight, though



Remembered the handle: Darkcloak

[Kirk]

My worst blunder was actually pretty funny. I was playing a game of SP (the original version) and was trying to cross a bridge and take some objective hexes on the other side. There was a squad on the bridge that I decided to blow to smithereens with a 150mm gun. I can see it now..."Colonel, we have good news and bad news for you. First, the good news. We attacked the squad on the bridge with our artillery and completely destroyed the enemy. Now for the bad news. The artillery also destroyed the bridge we needed to cross. We cannot meet our objectives." Needless to say, the game was over and I had a good laugh.

[Buzzard45]

Originally posted by Kirk
My worst blunder was actually pretty funny. I was playing a game of SP (the original version) and was trying to cross a bridge and take some objective hexes on the other side. There was a squad on the bridge that I decided to blow to smithereens with a 150mm gun. I can see it now..."Colonel, we have good news and bad news for you. First, the good news. We attacked the squad on the bridge with our artillery and completely destroyed the enemy. Now for the bad news. The artillery also destroyed the bridge we needed to cross. We cannot meet our objectives." Needless to say, the game was over and I had a good laugh.

Been there!! Done that!!!:D

Sucks doesn't it.
Its good to hear from another former SP1 player.

[WhiteRook]

My worst blunder, gee I have had so many it really is hard for me to pin just one down!
I think on general terms the one thing that hoses me off the most is not paying enough attention to where I am clicking in the heat of battle!
I have drove trucks into mine fields, tanks into buildings, had very very experianced units wiped-out in one turn by forgetting to un-highlight them before clicking on an un-surpressed pillbox or bunker!
Lead my infantry into my own rolling barrages! The list just goes on and on I tell ya!

[Irinami]

Bingo, White Rook. Lately, as the Germans in Turncoats!, I fragged a good Rifle Squad with an Engineer Squad by Z-firing into the Rifles' hex... instead of X'ing some smoke onto them!

[Nuclear Winter]

hehe I can see it:
´´Frederick! You see those brave soldiers of the Reich there? Smoke them! NO!!! NOT THIS KIND OF SMOKE!TURN THIS FLAMETHROWER DOWN!´´
Hehe, as a newby, I do a lot of marching over mines... I detect it, then in a moment of distraction next turn I march over the mines and send some brave soldiers to Valhalla faster than they should... :rolleyes:

[Klinkenhoffen]

Playing a PBEM recently. The cat, furry kind not steel kind, jumps on to the mouce and advances a squad forward.

Poor old squad gets chopped to into little bits by machine gun, cat gets thrown out the window.

[Bernie]

Originally posted by Klinkenhoffen
Playing a PBEM recently. The cat, furry kind not steel kind, jumps on to the mouce and advances a squad forward.

Poor old squad gets chopped to into little bits by machine gun, cat gets thrown out the window.

Obviously an enemy infiltrator!

[Jim1954]

Venturing into the AoW forum and actually posting something. That place can get strange.

[Sonni]

Playing a PBEM recently. The cat, furry kind not steel kind, jumps on to the mouce and advances a squad forward.

This happens also to me frequently, as my cat likes to sit in my lap when I use the computer. I have tried to teach her that she is doing much harm when she jumps on top of the mouse, especially to her big steel sisters (love those katz), but no results yet... Especially annoying is when she steps on the keyboard and presses the D-key when you have just flanked something and have a great shooting position.