Baloogan Campaign Stream

[smudge56]

Cheers mate. Yeah I noticed that what a talented chap he is.

[smudge56]

Man I'm miffed I missed the stream. I loved the banter and chatting.

[RoryAndersonCDT]

Hehe [:D] Well there will be more.

[smudge56]

Keeping it close eh not giving much away lol.

[smudge56]

Just finished watching the stream it wouldn't be a baloogan stream without nukes lol.

[RoryAndersonCDT]

I'll be doing a stream this coming Saturday at 11:00 AM PST (7:00 PM GMT) though I don't have a clue what scenario to play. Anyone have any suggestions?

[Usili]

I would suggest either Indian Ocean Brawl, or Havana Daydreaming, if you haven't done videos of those (which if I recall I don't think you have) to do a scenario.

EDIT: In retrospect, Wargasm or Deter, Detect, Defend would be even awesomer.

[Mini_Von]

Hi Baloogan,

How about "Brass Drum" or "Goodnight Irene".

[RoryAndersonCDT]

Well, Goodnight Irene is one of my favorite scenarios; it just takes ~3-6 hours to get to the action. I'm looking for a scenario with immediate action.

[Tomcat84]

DCA Mini-Ex? No nukes though :p And a bit too simple perhaps.

[severe7]

If you don't feel like playing a long mission I have a challenge for you.
Here are the rules:

AI side has 2 units, 1 nm from each other, skill level normal.
1.) #417 - RKR Petr Velikiy [Pr.1144 Orlan, Ex-Yuri Androvo] -- Russia [1992-] (Navy), 1999-0,
2.) #2128 - CG 70 Lake Erie [Ticonderoga Baseline 4, VLS] -- United States (Navy), 2012-0, SM-3, AEGIS BMD, SM-2MR Blk IV Anti-ASBM

All radars and jammers should be online, and no mission should be set for the ships.

These giant ships have to be sunk with a maximum of 30 aircraft, nothing more (and no rearming allowed).
Here the big hurdle, not more than two of the aircraft are allowed to be of the same kind.
In other words, you have to use 15 different kind of planes and/or loadouts and sink two of the most powerful ships on earth.

Additional rules:
Modifying the loadouts of planes is considered cheating.
So is using the 747 full of CALCs, and using nukes.
You can only use aircraft, nothing more.

Can you do this?

[RoryAndersonCDT]

Stream in 1 hr: http://baloogancampaign.com/

[AlexGGGG]

severe7,

The solution is like this,
1. pick 28 aircraft (14 pairs) which can carry largest number of ARM missiles; HARMs or Kryptons,
2. add 2x B-2s with bombs

Launch all the SEAD aircraft and have them engage ships. After that, have them strafe the ships, with guns, kamikazi-style. This has the effect of all aircraft down but ships expending all their SAMs.

SIDE: Ships
===========================================================

LOSSES:
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1x CG 70 Lake Erie [Ticonderoga Baseline 4, VLS]
1x RKR Petr Velikiy [Pr.1144 Orlan, Ex-Yuri Androvo]


EXPENDITURES:
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32x RIM-174A ERAM SM-6MR Blk I
96x SA-N-20a Gargoyle [48N6]
38x 127mm/62 HECVT
24x RIM-162A ESSM
60x SA-N-9 Gauntlet [9M330-2 Kinzhal]
16x AK-130 130mm/54 Twin Frag Burst [2 rnds]
13x 20mm/100 Mk15 Phalanx Blk 1B Burst [300 rnds]
55x PK-10 Chaff [SR-50]
10x PK-2 Chaff [TSP-47]
11x 30mm Twin Gatling Gsh-6-30K Burst [375 rnds]
48x RIM-66M-5 SM-2MR Blk IIIB
21x SA-N-11a Grisom [9M311K]
12x Mk214 Sea Gnat Chaff [Seduction]
9x Mk234 Nulka



SIDE: Aircraft
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
2x EA-18G Growler
2x F-4G Phantom II [Wild Weasel V]
2x Tornado ECR MLU
2x Tornado ECR
2x Su-34 Fullback
2x J-15S Flying Shark [Su-33 Copy]
2x F-14E Advanced Super Tomcat-21 [AST-21]
2x F/A-18D Hornet
2x Su-30MKK Flanker G
2x JH-7A Flounder
2x F-16C Blk 52 Falcon
2x F/A-18F Super Hornet
2x A-7E Corsair II


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
12x AGM-88E AARGM
28x AGM-88C HARM
24x AGM-88B HARM
28x AS-17 Krypton C [Kh-31P, ARM]
27x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
13x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges]
1x Generic Chaff Salvo [8x Cartridges]
1x 30mm Gsh-30-1 Burst [30 rnds]
2x AN/ALE-55 FOTD
8x GBU-28C/B Deep Throat LGB/GPS [BLU-122/B]

[Ocel0t]

very cool. watched this on youtube. thanks for all the videos!

[smudge56]

Baloogan I'm looking forward to your steam of 1.06 [:D]

[severe7]

ORIGINAL: AlexGGGG

severe7,

The solution is like this,
1. pick 28 aircraft (14 pairs) which can carry largest number of ARM missiles; HARMs or Kryptons,
2. add 2x B-2s with bombs

Launch all the SEAD aircraft and have them engage ships. After that, have them strafe the ships, with guns, kamikazi-style. This has the effect of all aircraft down but ships expending all their SAMs.

SIDE: Ships
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
1x CG 70 Lake Erie [Ticonderoga Baseline 4, VLS]
1x RKR Petr Velikiy [Pr.1144 Orlan, Ex-Yuri Androvo]


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
32x RIM-174A ERAM SM-6MR Blk I
96x SA-N-20a Gargoyle [48N6]
38x 127mm/62 HECVT
24x RIM-162A ESSM
60x SA-N-9 Gauntlet [9M330-2 Kinzhal]
16x AK-130 130mm/54 Twin Frag Burst [2 rnds]
13x 20mm/100 Mk15 Phalanx Blk 1B Burst [300 rnds]
55x PK-10 Chaff [SR-50]
10x PK-2 Chaff [TSP-47]
11x 30mm Twin Gatling Gsh-6-30K Burst [375 rnds]
48x RIM-66M-5 SM-2MR Blk IIIB
21x SA-N-11a Grisom [9M311K]
12x Mk214 Sea Gnat Chaff [Seduction]
9x Mk234 Nulka



SIDE: Aircraft
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
2x EA-18G Growler
2x F-4G Phantom II [Wild Weasel V]
2x Tornado ECR MLU
2x Tornado ECR
2x Su-34 Fullback
2x J-15S Flying Shark [Su-33 Copy]
2x F-14E Advanced Super Tomcat-21 [AST-21]
2x F/A-18D Hornet
2x Su-30MKK Flanker G
2x JH-7A Flounder
2x F-16C Blk 52 Falcon
2x F/A-18F Super Hornet
2x A-7E Corsair II


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
12x AGM-88E AARGM
28x AGM-88C HARM
24x AGM-88B HARM
28x AS-17 Krypton C [Kh-31P, ARM]
27x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
13x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges]
1x Generic Chaff Salvo [8x Cartridges]
1x 30mm Gsh-30-1 Burst [30 rnds]
2x AN/ALE-55 FOTD
8x GBU-28C/B Deep Throat LGB/GPS [BLU-122/B]

That was really smart, I've tried this multiple times, but never but never a pure HARM attack, I usually mix Anti ship missiles with my HARMs.

[AlexGGGG]

What you are looking for in this type of attack is one of

1. Saturate their SAM capability in terms of illumination,
2. Make them expend all their missiles

Either of the above is achieved by sending in maximum possible number of "missile units" simultaneously.
I'm referring to "missile units", as kind of notional missiles, because we want to account for intercept probability.
See, let's say that defender spends exactly one SAM on a hypothetical type A ASM, and exactly three SAMs of hypothetical type B ASM.
Then, each A is one "missile unit", and each B is three "missile units", because defender spends three times more SAMs on type B incomings. This way, you are better off using aircraft loadout with 2x Type B missiles (6 "missile units") than 4x Type A missiles (4 "units").

Then it becomes just a matter of combining weapons and loadouts. By some quick testing I found that ARM (fast) requires much more SAMs than Harpoon (slow), and there are really not much available loadouts with 6x or 8x Harpoons, so I went with all ARMs.

If that is still not enough to deplete ship's SAMs, then I still have 28x aircraft, each taking at least one missile to be killed, and often more than one missile. That would be about 45 more SAMs expended by defender.

[smudge56]

Ok new update when is the Live Stream Mate [;)]

[DWReese]

Baloogan,

I hate to keep bothering Mike, so I'll bother you for a second. <lol>

Can you give me some insight as to how the Iranian mobile jammers should work? Do you have a video?

I have discovered that if I place them in front of the Iranian SAM sites, in between the attacking AC and the SAMs, then the jammer inhibits the attacking AC from ever receiving the important info about a SAM launch being made. In short, often the incoming AC never sees the FCR light up. Additionally, most of the SAMs are not even observed by the AC until it is too late. The result is that many of my planes are being attacked without the targeted AC knowing that they are under attack, therefore losing their defensive mobility rating. They are almost always killed.

I am thinking about giving my attacking AC some jammer AC, too. Then my attacking AC would have offensive jammers to restrict the SAMs, and the ground units would have mobile jammers to mask the SAMs and the targets. What a mess!

Please tell me that you have a video on this topic. I have seen the simple and original one, but this seems to be much more involved than that.

It has been a BLAST messing around with electronic warfare.

Doug

[Mgellis]

One group of my students during the Winter term did a 20-minute presentation on "what makes a good Youtube channel" so I gave them the option, for extra credit, of doing a short (i.e., about 500 words) report on the Baloogan Campaign videos.

They were impressed with the depth of detail and the usefulness of the videos; the main area for improvement, they thought, was that the videos are sometimes a bit dry. Two things they thought might help would be to add humor where appropriate and to have other gamers join Baloogan as he comments on the scenarios (i.e., "guest stars").

(We know humor can work when talking about Command...http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/th ... tions.230/ is a great example.)

One other thing they mentioned in their original presentation but did not mention in their extra credit report was that a lot of the most successful channels rely on shorter videos, usually less than 15 minutes, which lets people get the information and the entertainment without having to dedicate a big block of time (which they might not want to do and/or might not actually have in terms of free time).

I don't know if this information will be useful to Baloogan, but I promised them I would pass along their observations; I do think they make some good points.