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Jan 27: I ordered retreat !!!

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I ordered retreat... and Yes, this goes to you RADM Wilhelm Friedell. I ordered you to withdraw at full speed with 0 react.
I did not order you to charge a Japanese Battleship and escorting cruisers and destroyers!! [:@]
Moreover, I selected you for this operation, because of your perceived low aggressiveness... This was not the day to prove the world they misunderstood you. I ordered retreat !!
Unless of course you were simply negligent on following the order. How is it possible that an old, slower battleship TF; located 2 hexes from your location could had caught you; your cruisers were more than 5 knots faster!

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Milne Bay at 101,134, Range 10,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
SOC-1 Seagull: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 5
CA Aoba, Shell hits 1
CL Kitakami
CL Tenryu, Shell hits 2
CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 1
DD Mutsuki
DD Kisaragi
DD Yayoi, Shell hits 2
DD Mochizuki
DD Yuzuki
DD Hayate
DD Sawakaze, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Yukaze

Allied Ships
CA Louisville, Shell hits 1
CA Pensacola, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
CL Leander, Shell hits 2
DD Ralph Talbot
DD Gridley, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Alden, Shell hits 1
DD Barker, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Bulmer
DD Edsall
DD John D. Edwards, Shell hits 2, on fire

Improved night sighting under 78% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 78% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages CA Pensacola at 10,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CA Louisville at 10,000 yards
CA Louisville engages CL Tatsuta at 10,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages DD John D. Edwards at 10,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CL Kitakami at 10,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Yukaze at 10,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Sawakaze at 10,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD John D. Edwards at 10,000 yards
DD Gridley engages DD Sawakaze at 10,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages DD Ralph Talbot at 10,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD John D. Edwards at 10,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD John D. Edwards at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CA Pensacola at 8,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CA Louisville at 8,000 yards
CL Leander engages CL Tenryu at 8,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD John D. Edwards at 8,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Hayate at 8,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Bulmer at 8,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD John D. Edwards at 8,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Yuzuki at 8,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Ralph Talbot at 8,000 yards
DD Gridley engages DD Kisaragi at 8,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Bulmer at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages DD John D. Edwards at 7,000 yards
CA Louisville engages CA Aoba at 7,000 yards
CL Leander engages CA Aoba at 7,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD John D. Edwards at 7,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages CA Louisville at 7,000 yards
DD Yukaze engages DD Bulmer at 7,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages DD Ralph Talbot at 7,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages DD Alden at 7,000 yards
DD Yukaze engages DD Gridley at 7,000 yards
DD Ralph Talbot engages DD Hayate at 7,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Yayoi at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages CA Pensacola at 6,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Louisville at 6,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Leander at 6,000 yards
DD Yukaze engages DD John D. Edwards at 6,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages CA Pensacola at 6,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages DD Yukaze at 6,000 yards
DD Yukaze engages DD Barker at 6,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Alden at 6,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Gridley at 6,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Ralph Talbot at 6,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Barker at 6,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Alden at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages CA Pensacola at 7,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages CA Louisville at 7,000 yards
CA Louisville engages CL Tatsuta at 7,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CA Pensacola at 7,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages CA Louisville at 7,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Barker at 7,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Hayate at 7,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Gridley at 7,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Yayoi at 7,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Kisaragi at 7,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Mutsuki at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CA Pensacola at 10,000 yards
CA Louisville engages CL Tatsuta at 10,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Leander at 10,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Yukaze at 10,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Mutsuki at 10,000 yards
DD Barker engages DD Sawakaze at 10,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Yukaze at 10,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Yuzuki at 10,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Mochizuki at 10,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Barker at 10,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Kisaragi at 10,000 yards
DD Barker engages DD Mutsuki at 10,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages CA Pensacola at 12,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Leander at 12,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CA Pensacola at 12,000 yards
CA Louisville engages CL Tenryu at 12,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Edsall at 12,000 yards
DD Yukaze engages DD Gridley at 12,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages DD Alden at 12,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Gridley at 12,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Ralph Talbot at 12,000 yards
DD Barker engages DD Kisaragi at 12,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Barker at 12,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages CA Pensacola at 12,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CA Louisville at 12,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CL Leander at 12,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages DD John D. Edwards at 12,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages DD Edsall at 12,000 yards
DD Bulmer engages DD Mochizuki at 12,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages DD Barker at 12,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Alden at 12,000 yards
DD Gridley engages DD Sawakaze at 12,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD John D. Edwards at 12,000 yards
DD Barker engages DD Yayoi at 12,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD John D. Edwards at 12,000 yards
DD Barker engages DD Mutsuki at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages CA Pensacola at 10,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Louisville at 10,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CL Tatsuta at 10,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Kisaragi at 10,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Edsall at 10,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Yukaze at 10,000 yards
DD Barker engages DD Mochizuki at 10,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Alden at 10,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Barker at 10,000 yards
DD Ralph Talbot engages DD Yuzuki at 10,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Barker at 10,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Kisaragi at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CA Pensacola sunk by BB Yamashiro at 8,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages CA Louisville at 8,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CA Louisville at 8,000 yards
CA Louisville engages CL Kitakami at 8,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Bulmer at 8,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages DD John D. Edwards at 8,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Alden at 8,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Barker at 8,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Ralph Talbot at 8,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Gridley at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CL Leander engages CA Aoba at 9,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages DD John D. Edwards at 9,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Mutsuki at 9,000 yards
CA Louisville engages CL Kitakami at 9,000 yards
DD Yukaze engages DD Barker at 9,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Alden at 9,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Gridley at 9,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Ralph Talbot at 9,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD John D. Edwards at 9,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Barker at 9,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Gridley at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages DD Barker at 11,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Leander at 11,000 yards
CA Louisville engages CL Tatsuta at 11,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Hayate at 11,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Bulmer at 11,000 yards
DD Gridley engages DD Yukaze at 11,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages DD Barker at 11,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Barker at 11,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Ralph Talbot at 11,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Ralph Talbot at 11,000 yards
DD Barker engages DD Kisaragi at 11,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Barker at 11,000 yards
Task forces break off...
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RE: Jan 27: I ordered retreat !!!

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Gotta love the cyber admirals!

He probably decided to refuel some hungry destroyers before hightailing it. Well, could have been worse....was the IJN TF on a react or heading somewhere and Friedall just got in the way?
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RE: Jan 27: I ordered retreat !!!

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Adm Getting; you also didn't follow my order to withdraw. Although in your defense, you did so to protect a retreating USN TF.
Moreover, although your gunnery was horrendous, I witnessed your bravery and high fighting spirit under the superior, accurate fire of the Japanese foe.
What a long battle

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Milne Bay at 100,137, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 6
CA Aoba, Shell hits 1
CL Kitakami, Shell hits 2
CL Tenryu
CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 5
DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Kisaragi
DD Yayoi, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Mochizuki
DD Yuzuki
DD Hayate, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Sawakaze, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Yukaze

Allied Ships
CA Australia, Shell hits 2
CA Canberra, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Perth, Shell hits 5
DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 1
DD Whipple, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Peary
DD Voyager, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Banckert, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
DD Van Ghent, Shell hits 1
DD Le Triomphant, Shell hits 3, heavy fires

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 20,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages CA Australia at 20,000 yards
CA Australia engages CL Kitakami at 20,000 yards
CA Australia engages DD Kisaragi at 20,000 yards
CA Australia engages DD Mutsuki at 20,000 yards
Getting, F.E. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range closes to 14,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages CA Canberra at 14,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Peary at 14,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Yuzuki at 14,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Paul Jones at 14,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Kisaragi at 14,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages DD Mutsuki at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CA Canberra at 11,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CA Aoba at 11,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CL Perth at 11,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Mutsuki at 11,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages CA Canberra at 11,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages DD Whipple at 11,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages DD Hayate at 11,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Yuzuki at 11,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages DD Mochizuki at 11,000 yards
DD Whipple engages DD Yayoi at 11,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages DD Mutsuki at 11,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages CA Canberra at 11,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages CA Australia at 11,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CA Australia at 11,000 yards
DD Yukaze engages DD Le Triomphant at 11,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages CA Australia at 11,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Yukaze at 11,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Sawakaze at 11,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Peary at 11,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Whipple at 11,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 11,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Banckert at 11,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Paul Jones at 11,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Mutsuki at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages CA Australia at 9,000 yards
CA Australia engages CA Aoba at 9,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages CL Perth at 9,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 9,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages DD Mochizuki at 9,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Yukaze at 9,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Mutsuki at 9,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Mutsuki at 9,000 yards
DD Whipple engages DD Yukaze at 9,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Voyager at 9,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Kisaragi at 9,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Peary at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages CA Canberra at 13,000 yards
CL Perth engages CA Aoba at 13,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 13,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages CL Perth at 13,000 yards
DD Yukaze engages DD Paul Jones at 13,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages DD Peary at 13,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Banckert at 13,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Banckert at 13,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Paul Jones at 13,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages DD Yayoi at 13,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Kisaragi at 13,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Peary at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 16,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CA Canberra at 16,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Australia at 16,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CL Perth at 16,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CL Perth at 16,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages DD Hayate at 16,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Yukaze at 16,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Voyager at 16,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Hayate at 16,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages DD Whipple at 16,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Mochizuki at 16,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Yayoi at 16,000 yards
DD Whipple engages DD Kisaragi at 16,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Van Ghent at 16,000 yards
Range increases to 17,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages CL Perth at 17,000 yards
CA Australia engages CL Tatsuta at 17,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CL Perth at 17,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CL Tenryu at 17,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages DD Mutsuki at 17,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages DD Yukaze at 17,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Sawakaze at 17,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Hayate at 17,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages DD Yuzuki at 17,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Paul Jones at 17,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Le Triomphant at 17,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Le Triomphant at 17,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Van Ghent at 17,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages CA Canberra at 17,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CA Australia at 17,000 yards
CL Perth engages CL Tatsuta at 17,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 17,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages DD Mutsuki at 17,000 yards
DD Yukaze engages DD Banckert at 17,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Sawakaze at 17,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Hayate at 17,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Paul Jones at 17,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 17,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Yayoi at 17,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Kisaragi at 17,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Mutsuki at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CL Tenryu at 15,000 yards
CA Australia engages CL Kitakami at 15,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages CL Perth at 15,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Yukaze at 15,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Van Ghent at 15,000 yards
DD Yukaze engages DD Van Ghent at 15,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Hayate at 15,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Banckert at 15,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Mochizuki at 15,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Yayoi at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages CA Australia at 13,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Canberra at 13,000 yards
CA Australia engages CL Tatsuta at 13,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Le Triomphant at 13,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CL Kitakami at 13,000 yards
DD Yukaze engages DD Peary at 13,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Voyager at 13,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Hayate at 13,000 yards
DD Whipple engages DD Kisaragi at 13,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages DD Mutsuki at 13,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages DD Yayoi at 13,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Paul Jones at 13,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Mutsuki at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages CA Canberra at 11,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Perth at 11,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CL Perth at 11,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages DD Le Triomphant at 11,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages CL Perth at 11,000 yards
DD Yukaze engages DD Voyager at 11,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages DD Banckert at 11,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Peary at 11,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Paul Jones at 11,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Paul Jones at 11,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Peary at 11,000 yards
Obata, Chozaemon orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range closes to 9,000 yards
BB Yamashiro engages CA Canberra at 9,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Canberra at 9,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CL Perth at 9,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages DD Le Triomphant at 9,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages DD Van Ghent at 9,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Yukaze at 9,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Sawakaze at 9,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Banckert at 9,000 yards
DD Yukaze engages DD Whipple at 9,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Banckert at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CL Tatsuta at 10,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Canberra at 10,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CL Perth at 10,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CA Canberra at 10,000 yards
DD Yukaze engages DD Peary at 10,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages DD Paul Jones at 10,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Hayate at 10,000 yards
DD Whipple engages DD Mochizuki at 10,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Paul Jones at 10,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Kisaragi at 10,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Voyager at 10,000 yards
Range increases to 14,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CA Aoba at 14,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Australia at 14,000 yards
CL Perth engages CL Tatsuta at 14,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CA Canberra at 14,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages CA Canberra at 14,000 yards
DD Yukaze engages DD Banckert at 14,000 yards
DD Sawakaze engages DD Banckert at 14,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Voyager at 14,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Whipple at 14,000 yards
DD Paul Jones engages DD Mutsuki at 14,000 yards
DD Peary engages DD Kisaragi at 14,000 yards
Range increases to 20,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Australia at 20,000 yards
CL Perth engages CL Tatsuta at 20,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Yayoi at 20,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Yukaze at 20,000 yards
DD Banckert engages DD Sawakaze at 20,000 yards
CL Kitakami engages DD Peary at 20,000 yards
DD Van Ghent engages DD Yayoi at 20,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Van Ghent at 20,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Mutsuki at 20,000 yards
Range increases to 24,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CL Tatsuta at 24,000 yards
CL Perth engages CA Aoba at 24,000 yards
CL Perth engages CL Tatsuta at 24,000 yards
CL Perth engages CL Tenryu at 24,000 yards
CA Canberra engages DD Yukaze at 24,000 yards
CL Perth engages DD Sawakaze at 24,000 yards
CL Perth engages DD Yuzuki at 24,000 yards
CA Canberra engages DD Mochizuki at 24,000 yards
CA Australia engages DD Yayoi at 24,000 yards
CA Canberra engages DD Mutsuki at 24,000 yards
Range increases to 27,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CL Tenryu at 27,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Australia at 27,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CL Tatsuta at 27,000 yards
CA Australia engages CL Tenryu at 27,000 yards
CA Australia engages CL Kitakami at 27,000 yards
CA Australia engages DD Yukaze at 27,000 yards
CA Aoba engages DD Voyager at 27,000 yards
CA Canberra engages DD Yuzuki at 27,000 yards
CA Canberra engages DD Kisaragi at 27,000 yards
CA Canberra engages DD Mutsuki at 27,000 yards
Getting, F.E. orders Allied TF to disengage
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RE: Jan 27: I ordered retreat !!!

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ORIGINAL: IdahoNYer

Gotta love the cyber admirals!

He probably decided to refuel some hungry destroyers before hightailing it. Well, could have been worse....was the IJN TF on a react or heading somewhere and Friedall just got in the way?

I agree it could had been worse. It was an interesting operation that of course did not go as I planned, in any way.

This started several turns ago; as soon as KB-2 left the area (remember I was raiding the Marshalls with 3 carriers), I sent these 2 TFs to try to see what they could fetch.
A turn ago, I tried to have the Australian intercept an invasion on Rennell island while the American's work as bait to the Japanese BB force on Fergusson island (north of Milne bay) --> map situation is a couple posts before).
It didn't work, the Australians simply ignored my order and the Americans got a very high detection level. which is why I decided to withdraw. Knowing the high risk, I even ordered the Americans to go full speed, precisely to avoid the kind of situation that occured

At the very least, I think he lost one or two destroyers and his TF will need to withdraw to rearm, refuel and repair some minor damage.
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Jan 28: zzzzzz

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I forgot to mention; Ambon fell on Jan 27; this after the longest most heroic defense I have seen so far. They held to numerous bombings (naval and air); at least 10 to 15 assaults.

Jan 28 was very quiet: only highlight was that DD Banckert sunk at sea. This was the most heavily damaged ship from yesterday's battle. I don't have the turn yet to see if Le Triumphant's fire are now under control. Last turn it was at around 45. The fact it didn't sink is a good signal

What else:
I am having the worst luck with submarines: Dutch or British are doing nothing, or better to say they are always spotted by escorts; while the Americans are launching, to good targets (I had many cruirsers, one AR, one big tanker, etc)but it is always "hit but no explosion" and then because he has been careful enough to always have escorts; there is no chance for a second round or a deck gun attack.
That said, his submarines are also underperforming. other than Raleigh last couple turns ago, and low value *AKs/ *AKLs he has not done any harm in a long time.

There are 4 or 5 big convoys soon to reach their destinations (Brisbane, PH and Suva). I will update once they reach safety. In a couple turns I will have, at last, a credible air defense on Australia!







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RE: Jan 28: zzzzzz

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I operate my subs in pairs in each TF so that if one misses/duds out, the other often also gets a shot. I have even had a sub sink an escort that had just finished its attack (lost contact) on the other sub in the TF. Sweet revenge.

There are a few good commanders in the Dutch sub fleet, but you run out of good ones before you can staff up all the subs. I have one Dutch sub commander with 47 Naval and 71 Aggression - a reckless idiot - but the best available from the commanders available. Obviously, the best commanders should go to the O-boats and the higher K-boats that have 10000 nm range and 533 mm torpedoes.
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RE: Jan 28: zzzzzz

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I operate my subs in pairs in each TF so that if one misses/duds out, the other often also gets a shot.

That's a heck of an interesting idea BBfanboy. I think I'll give that a try in my game - having the same issues as here. Increased Jpn awareness to the sub threat, and employing countermeasures early on is quite a difference in PBEM vs. an AI game. Add that to lousy torps, and results are well below expectations.

Good sub drivers certainly help too!
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RE: Jan 28: zzzzzz

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That's a heck of an interesting idea BBfanboy. I think I'll give that a try in my game - having the same issues as here.

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RE: Jan 28: zzzzzz

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I will certainly try it; thanks!

Going back to the convoys; I am happy to inform that the following groups safely reached Brisbane in the last couple turns:

- 35th PG/70th PS --> 18 P-36s soon to be changed to P-400 or P-38
- 35th PG/39th PS --> 25 P-39s
- 35th PG/41th PS --> 25 P-39s
- 35th PG/40th PS --> 25 P-39s
- 22th BG/ hqs -----> 4 B-26
- 22th BG/ 2nd RS --> 10 B-26
- 22th BG/18th RS --> 10 B-26
- 22th BG/33th RS --> 10 B-26
- 22th BG/19th RS --> 10 B-26

- 24th, 38th, 35th, 43rd BFs
- 216th AA
- 193 Tank Bt
- II US Fighter Command

Reached PH:
- 164 Inf Regiment --> they will change to combat Op Mode and move as amph to either Suva, New Caledonia or Australia

Suva:
24th Inf Division will arrive tomorrow
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Not a lot happening in Jan 29th; just the usual: small xAKL loses, Allied submarines failing to score, small invasions

Some highlights:
- The CV and raider TFs will be inside PH defense perimeter next turn.

- Tarakan coastal guns got one AK on heavy fires.

- KV Chilliwack hit SS I-8 12 times [:)] and I saw some nasty messages like "taking heavy damage" , "control room on fire". I have detached 2 KVs from the transp TF to do ASW one turn; maybe they will caught him again

- DD Le Triumphant didn't win this time[:(] she sank last turn after multiple floodings

- Some interesting Intel: 31/48th Division planning for an attack on Calcuta [X(] how reliable is this?
Does it means there are 31 fragments? is he loading a division into barges?? hard to believe as he controls Singapore... or maybe he just don't have enough good transports in HK ? ...anyway, I think I would send some submarines to HK.. maybe I will find a huge invasion force
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Summary of air losses

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Japan: 719
Allies: 571
Key driver for this "victory" was the many unescorted raids caught by alerted CAP

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Allies: 571

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Summary of naval losses

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Capital Ships:
Japan: none [:@]

Allies: BC Repulse; torpedoed by KB-1 near Java. It survived the long trip off map. But around 12 days before reaching CT, a series of critical flooding events doomed him.

1st rate Cruisers: CL vs. CA is very deceptive. I prefer to consider 1st rate any cruiser built to "treaty size" onwards
Japan: none [:@][:@]

Allies: a long list; in order of tears shed:
- CL Boise, sunk by KB-1 on the Celebes, magazine explosion
- CA Houston, sunk by destroyers on the Sulu Sea, torpedoed on a night combat after a succesful raid near Jesselton
- CA Cornwall, sunk near Mersing, a 2-day battle, 1st day Cornwall's TF sunk 4 Fubukis. 2nd day BBs Kongo and Haruna took revenge.
- CL Mauritius, heavily damaged by KB-1. Tried emergency repairs on Java, but invasion came too fast. Sunk by cruisers near Batavia while trying to escape.
- CA Pensacola, sunk by BB Yamashiro near Milne bay. That imbecile Friedell failed to run away... it was an order ![:@]!

2nd rate Cruisers: CL vs. CA is very deceptive. I prefer to consider 2nd rate as any cruiser built during or just after WW1, destroyer leaders and new ones built under "pacifist Dutch governments"
Japan: none [:@][:@][:@]

Allies: another long list; but less tears shed:
- CL Dauntless, sunk near Mersing, a 2-day battle, 1st day Dauntless's TF sunk 4 Fubukis. 2nd day BBs Kongo and Haruna took revenge.
- CL Java, sunk by torpedoes during the many Makassar strait battles against Japanese cruisers Myoko, Nagara and Yura.
- CL Tromp, heavily damaged during Makassar strait battles, then, sunk by submarines
- CL Ceres and CL Caledon sunk by flooding while trying to flee Singapore. Heavily damaged while being used as bomber bait.
- CL Adelaide, sunk by KB-2 near Gasmata

Destroyers:
Japan: 13, but I estimate 10 or 11 + one TB [:'(]

Allies: a small list of relatively old destroyers
- DD Phelps sunk by a submarine[:-]
- DD John D Ford heavily damaged on Dec-7th Manila raid + continuos raids afterwards. Scuttled
- DD Electra and Jupiter while raiding
- DD Witte de With sunk by heavy cruisers while escorting the heavily damaged CL Mauritius
- DD Banckert and DD Le Triumphant sunk by fire and flooding respectively. They were heavily damaged by BB Yamashiro's TF on the Coral Sea.

Submarines
Japan: 1 confirmed, 1 heavily damaged

Allies:
- 7 fleet boats + 3 "S" class sunk as consequence of Manila's Dec-7th raid
- SS Argonaut sunk by mines trying to set a minefield on Kwajalein.


Finally a full summary by category:

I have lost way too many auxiliaries... some where unavoidable, like all those lost on Manila Dec 7th raid. Some others I should had retreated them way before I tried to :


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Japan: 13, but I estimate 10 or 11 + one TB

While the cost may have been high, the loss in DDs will hurt the IJN well past '42 Nicely done!
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Ships under repair

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Thanks; I am sure this attritional war will have an impact later on. Still it is discouraging to see that he has not lost anything bigger than a DD

Ships under repair - At Port

BB Maryland:
Only ship significantly damaged at PH. It is estimated it will take 279 days to fully repair. It will remain at PH as it is too dangerous to move to the west coast (floatation damage over 60 major)

BB Prince of Wales:
Torpedoed by KB-1 early on. It is now at Cape Town, it will take 148 days to repair

BB West Virginia:
Damaged at PH. 30 days to repair system damage, then it will go to the West Coast for flotation (7 major) and engine (5 major)

BB Nevada:
Damaged at PH. 16 days to repair system damage, then it will go to the West Coast for flotation (10 major) and engine (24, 21 major)

CA Exeter:
At Sydney, after multiple wounds accrued during raids, 20 days to repair
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Calm before the storm?

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Its being a while; I had been very busy this last week; I had just barely enough time to keep my commitment of 1 turn per day but really no time to update the AAR

It is now February 6th: and there is very little happening:
- few, very few ship sunk or aircraft downed; for both sides

- Lots of convoys moving, slowly, to Australia or Suva... not exciting work, but critical... There is one big convoy with 6+ airgroups just unloading now at Brisbane [:)]

- I thought his carriers were entering the Malacca strait, and this triggered a full evacuation of the Indian Ocean; I have nothing other than AKLs between Colombo and Rangoon. Convoys are all diverted to Karachi or Bombay
I might had mis identified a float plane patrol... but still, he is coming to Rangoon soon, so better be safe than sorry

- Rangoon is doomed, he has not started the invasion yet, but he cleverly sent paratroops to cut me off... and although he failed in this department, as he will soon realize I have nothing other than around 130 AV of the worst quality in the Rangoon area, he did win in taking a lot of supplies (around 10K) that I was carefully husbanding for China... which is now more hopeless than ever!



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RE: Calm before the storm?

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Somehow I cannot edit my posts!

so Paratroops landed on Lashio; cutting supply to China. Rangoon was already low so no big worries here, and although the 10K supply lost is little overall, in China this was pure gold

what else:
no raiding yet; I have too many ships getting repaired

I think an invasion in India is imminent; potential places:
- Rangoon area: I have nothing here, he will
- Ceylon: I evacuated most, so this would be an easy grab if he wants it
- Calcutta/ Chittagong: this is where I plan to defend at all costs

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Feb 8th: Carriers at the bay of Bengal

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The carriers finally appeared!

As mentioned a couple turns ago, I spotted them 3 turns ago entering the Malacca strait, so I had enough time to evacuate most naval assets.

I left some AKL task forces and one of them was wipped out by a combination naval bomber and cruiser/ DDs

Now the next question is: where would he land?

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RE: Feb 8th: Carriers at the bay of Bengal

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If he is seeking to isolate Burma and try and trap your forces there, Akyab and Cox's Bazaar are popular landing spots for the IJA. If he brought enough troops Chittagong also cannot stand against him.

If he wants to go really deep (knowing you have basically nothing to stop him right now), he could land at Cuttack and march to Calcutta. Most IJ players will not try to push an amphib force through the fort at Diamond Harbour and possible mines at Calcutta.

Going that deep into the Bay of Bengal suggests that Ceylon is not the target right now. If he was going there he likely would have stayed cloaked and headed west from the tip of Java to try and surprise you major base at Columbo.

This all could be just a raid to try and reduce your shipping and try to catch some naval ships too. If your opponent thinks strategically, such a raid would be in support of a land push through Burma toward Chittagong and Calcutta, with the major aim of cutting off the Burma Road and the air bridge from NE India to China.
If he does not think strategically, the raid is just a chance to do something with his carriers while he does not need them for other things.
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RE: Feb 8th: Carriers at the bay of Bengal

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Cannot edit my post above, so please correct where I said tip of "Java" to "Sumatra".
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