::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)

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ORIGINAL: Miller

Akagi had a portside Island as well.

Thanks for the clarification Miller!

As for my comment about the relative size of the crewmen, I now see there are some crewmen wayyyyy in the back behind the planes which show the true length of the ship. I forgot that she had a humpback deck that makes it seem foreshortened in the shot.

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[font="Times New Roman"]The I-6 vs TF 74[/font]

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 22, 43
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Sub attack near Palmyra at 163,131

Japanese Ships
SS I-6, hits 16, and is sunk

Allied Ships
xAK Stephen J. Field, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Steel Voyager
xAK Steel Exporter
xAK Santa Rita
xAK Utahan
SC-519
xAK Caleb Strong
xAK Clevedon
xAK Makawao, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Jacob Luckenbach

SS I-6 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Stephen J. Field
I-6 diving deep ....
SC-519 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-519 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-519 attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-6 forced to surface!
xAK Stephen J. Field firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Caleb Strong firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Clevedon firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Makawao firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Jacob Luckenbach firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Stephen J. Field firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Caleb Strong firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Clevedon firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Makawao firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Jacob Luckenbach firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Stephen J. Field firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Caleb Strong firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Clevedon firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Makawao firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Jacob Luckenbach firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Stephen J. Field firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Caleb Strong firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Clevedon firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Makawao firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Jacob Luckenbach firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Stephen J. Field firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Caleb Strong firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Clevedon firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Makawao firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Jacob Luckenbach firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Stephen J. Field firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Caleb Strong firing on surfaced sub ....
xAK Clevedon firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

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[font="Times New Roman"]Jan 20 - 23, 1943[/font]

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[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] Snapper runs into a big amphib TF near Carnarvon but misses.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]INDIA: [/font] The Marine paras take Cuttack, adding another theat vector to the Indian situation. I'll pop some engineers in by rail and some big AA guns. This is pretty close to Calcutta, so could be useful once built from its current level 1 field.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CENT PAC: [/font] The decimated troops at Nauru try to recover now as the navy gives some help. I've got several surface groups that will alternate bombardments until he moves something in to stop them, which might be soon. How much supply can be here anyway? It'll be nice when Ocean gets a field so I can LR CAP and make sure not too much is getting in (or out) through the air. Still, if he wants to fight out here, it's good for us in the long run.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SO PAC: [/font] Trying something new here with an invasion. Not sure it'll work out, but I'll find out in about a week.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] Some decent and some terrible in China. The tanks have broken through, shugging off the previous day's 1:2 result as if it didn't happen and getting a 5:1 for the needed breakthrough into the central plains. Troops will retreat to Chungking mostly, as Chengtu will have only a skeleton force to waste some time. Not that it's not a worthy place to defend, but I didn't choose to increase forts there earlier, so it's now pretty vulnerable with level 1 and growing to level 2. It doesn't really matter against the tank armies, but at Chungking at least I could put up some resistance. I'll also try to run a few troops to the river crossing toward the Sian and Lanchow area to make that tough.

Near Chikhiang the IJA doesn't do as well. Two infantry divisions and one tank division actually suffer worse losses in a 1:1 attack, then shock and get a 1:2 and will have to be switched out for fresh troops. The Changsha pocket holds for now, and because there is some supply generation, might for a while longer. There have still been no further attempts for Sian, Wenchow or Lanchow.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]OZ:[/font] All movements are on hold as I wait to decide on the possible amphibious op toward Esperance.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SIGINT:[/font] Looks like this is pretty good intelligence that lotsa guns and another division moving to SW OZ. [;)]

This is quite a build-up, and apparently a change of plan. He had moved things out, now there're coming back in, seemingly as much or more than had left originally.

[font="Trebuchet MS"]4/6th RF Gun Battalion is loaded on a Std-D Cargo class xAK moving to Geraldton.
2/10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment is loaded on a Gozan Cargo class xAK moving to Geraldton.
1/8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion is loaded on xAK Yahiko Maru moving to Geraldton.
3/10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment is loaded on xAK Tosei Maru moving to Geraldton.
4/8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Geraldton.
3/8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Geraldton.
3/20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion is loaded on a Std-B Cargo class xAK moving to Geraldton.
4/4th Division is loaded on a Ehime Cargo class xAK moving to Geraldton.
9/4th Division is loaded on xAK Kinugasa Maru moving to Geraldton.
8/4th Division is loaded on a Std-D Cargo class xAK moving to Geraldton.
2/16th Army is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Geraldton.
5/16th Army is loaded on a Yusen N Cargo class xAK moving to Geraldton.
4/8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion is loaded on a Std-C Cargo class xAK moving to Geraldton.
3/6th RF Gun Battalion is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Geraldton.
3/5th Mortar Battalion is loaded on a Japanese TK moving to Geraldton.
4/4th Division is loaded on a Std-A Cargo class xAK moving to Geraldton.
2/16th Army is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Geraldton.[/font]

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 20, 43
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Night Naval bombardment of Rekata Bay at 113,134

Allied Ships
CA Australia
CL Perth
CL Achilles
DD Morris
DD Walke
DD O'Brien
DD Lansdowne

Port hits 21
Port supply hits 3

Seagull V acting as spotter for CA Australia
CA Australia firing at Rekata Bay
DD O'Brien firing at Sasebo 6th SNLF

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Night Naval bombardment of Nauru Island at 127,128

Allied Ships
CA Wichita
CA San Francisco
CA Chicago

Japanese ground losses:
321 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 22
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 4

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Wichita
CA Wichita firing at Nauru Island
SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Chicago
CA Chicago firing at Kure 5th SNLF

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Ground combat at 75,46 (near Chungking)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 25324 troops, 353 guns, 2015 vehicles, Assault Value = 1279

Defending force 18256 troops, 77 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 487

Japanese adjusted assault: 1613

Allied adjusted defense: 280

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
420 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 42 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 83 (2 destroyed, 81 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
8228 casualties reported
Squads: 75 destroyed, 64 disabled
Non Combat: 189 destroyed, 65 disabled
Engineers: 9 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 16 (8 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2nd Tank Division
9th Tank Regiment
19th Tank Regiment
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
11th Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
1st Tank Division
15th Tank Regiment
12th Tank Regiment
Guards Tank Division

Defending units:
16th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
21st Group Army

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Ground combat at 79,50 (near Chihkiang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 36488 troops, 455 guns, 648 vehicles, Assault Value = 1157

Defending force 32685 troops, 78 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 868

Japanese adjusted assault: 720

Allied adjusted defense: 499

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1421 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 153 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled

Allied ground losses:
783 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 94 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd Division
3rd Tank Division
116th Division
11th Army
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment

Defending units:
39th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
3rd New Chinese Corps

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Ground combat at Cuttack (48,37)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 168 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 10

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Cuttack !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
1st USMC Parachute Bn /1

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 21, 43
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Ground combat at 79,50 (near Chihkiang)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 34858 troops, 455 guns, 648 vehicles, Assault Value = 992

Defending force 32039 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 805

Japanese adjusted assault: 734

Allied adjusted defense: 1762

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1198 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 81 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Vehicles lost 15 (2 destroyed, 13 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
662 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 48 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd Tank Division
3rd Division
116th Division
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
11th Army
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment

Defending units:
79th Chinese Corps
39th Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
3rd New Chinese Corps

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[font="Trebuchet MS"]Madras is still holding strong, and he has a big commitment of fighters there to protect it. I'll move on it with some very large armies and those will far outnumber his two divisions and a garrison unit, even with decent forts here. If he decides to fight, retreat, or reinforce, I will still go for this base. [/font]

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[font="Times New Roman"]Jan 25 - 28, 1943[/font]

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[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] The RO-65 hits and maims the Pike near Nauru, but the Pike makes it to Ocean and will rest there for a bit. The I-19 misses a big TK convoy near Pukapuka.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]INDIA: [/font] A begining is made on Ceylon by hitting the unused level 7 fields at Dambulla. In spite of severe storms the fields take around 50-60 damage judging by recon reports. We take 4 losses to flak and a few more to ops, but there is no bleeding CAP here. I stood down on the 27th, but I'll sweep with Corsairs and P-38s tomorrow.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CENT PAC: [/font] Bombardments keep hitting Nauru. Ocean is at 70% for level 1 field construction. in the meantime lots of units prep is getting finishing for Cent Pac and I have to decide if it's even worth it to continue out here.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SO PAC: [/font] I'm moving to Rekata Bay with only fast transports and landing craft. This is a new test, possibly at the expense of the 2nd Marine regiment.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] Near Chikhiang the Japanese take more big disablements. The Chinese here are stalling well, but it won't matter unless I can get India back to send some supply. Tanks roll into Chengtu and begin the destruction.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]OZ:[/font] It'll unfortunately be another 10 days before I can consider loading up for a move to Esperance. Upgrades are happening at Sydney, but if these ships are going into the firing line with 200+ LBA bombers bearing down, I want the best radar and flak upgrades installed.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SIGINT:[/font] Some more good news about units coming to OZ, and one more piece of gold!! [8D]

[font="Trebuchet MS"]3/17th Garrison Unit is loaded on AK Asakasan Maru moving to Darwin.
13/19th Division is loaded on xAK Bordeaux Maru at Darwin (76,124).
2/19th Division is loaded on xAK Nittai Maru at Darwin (76,124).
7/19th Division is loaded on xAK Yoneyama Maru at Darwin (76,124).

CVL Ryujo is located at Sabang (44,70).[/font]

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Ground combat at 79,50 (near Chihkiang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 33250 troops, 459 guns, 651 vehicles, Assault Value = 822

Defending force 30529 troops, 64 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 681

Japanese adjusted assault: 535

Allied adjusted defense: 1177

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1708 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 163 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Guns lost 18 (1 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
394 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 76 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd Division
3rd Tank Division
116th Division
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
11th Army
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment

Defending units:
79th Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
3rd New Chinese Corps
39th Chinese Corps

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 26, 43
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Woodlark Island at 104,133

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 12
F4F-3 Wildcat x 7
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 destroyed

No Allied losses

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 27, 43
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Morning Air attack on Dambulla , at 30,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 27
Wellington Ic x 28
Kittyhawk I x 16

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 3 damaged
Wellington Ic: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 47

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Wellington Ic bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Dambulla , at 30,47

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 6
B-25C Mitchell x 6
B-26B Marauder x 9
P-39D Airacobra x 24

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 28, 43
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Ground combat at Chengtu (75,41)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 17994 troops, 242 guns, 1537 vehicles, Assault Value = 960

Defending force 24178 troops, 99 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 662

Japanese adjusted assault: 644

Allied adjusted defense: 765

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
179 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 41 (2 destroyed, 39 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2439 casualties reported
Squads: 63 destroyed, 186 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 57 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 21 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Assaulting units:
15th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Division
12th Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
1st Tank Division
19th Tank Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
7th Ind.Tank Brigade

Defending units:
7th New Chinese Corps
1st Construction Regiment
67th Chinese Corps
60th Chinese Corps
2nd Construction Regiment
3rd Chinese Base Force
21st Chinese Base Force

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[font="Trebuchet MS"]This is looking grim now. [/font]

[BBfanboy]

I expect KB is replenishing from an AKE or two at Sabang. Do you have any way of trying to take them out?
Night attack with B-24s?

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

I expect KB is replenishing from an AKE or two at Sabang. Do you have any way of trying to take them out?
Night attack with B-24s?

Nothing will reach Sabang from any location in Allied possession right now. I'm pretty sure these are just sitting and waiting for me to move toward Diego or Colombo. Seeing SIGINT days apart on two of the CV/CVL that likely form the main KB would lead me to believe this is their long term station. I like the placement, as I could get quite far into the interior of the Empire if I were really bold, but right now it just lets me think of what I'll do in OZ with some leeway to not have to worry about the KB coming.

I inadvertently left half the fleet ready to upgrade in Sydney and now I'll have to wait another 20 days to really go forward. It's probably better though, as this will mean better AA/radar, plus in some ways it's better to keep letting the Japanese pile more back into SW OZ. If I choose to invade I'd like to catch some stuff there. Might not be able to still though, landing at Esperance. I also don't have a huge amount of invasion shipping available. I've only lost 1-2 AP/AK, but they only really start coming fast now. Currently on this side of the board I have enough to move about 2 supported divisions.

It all just lets me know why it was mid-43 before the Alies really started picking up their pace moving forward. I'm in no hurry, yet.

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[font="Times New Roman"]Jan 29 - 31, 1943[/font]

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[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] Lost a sub to a sub. The I-7 takes out S-37 near Cochin. Lots of ships at Calcutta, maybe taking troops out, and Spearfish

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]INDIA: [/font] Another small strike hits Dambulla with no CAP up again. He's moved more fighters to Colombo and Trincomalee to meet what is most likely perceived as an imminent threat. I'm not really close to moving on Ceylon, but I will feel out the CAP there soon in the hope of making the ports less tenable.

Hit an Army HQ out of base on the 30th and then left a few of the bombers on which re-directed to Patna [&:] somehow and hit massive CAP there. We hit very few troops so the unit most likely didn't evaporate, and I don't think it moved to Patna, so this is a little strange. Lost about 35 planes for nothing.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CENT PAC: [/font] Sending some LSTs out to make an attempt to land some tanks at Nauru, but I'll have to get some good combat ships in there as these things are vulnerable to the CD guns. Might be better off with the 12 knot AKs that I get a billion of. Not looking forward to a shock for this, but it must be done sometime.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SO PAC: [/font] A boat and shore party lands at Rekata Bay by fast transport. Somehow there are still 3 forts here, which is nice to step into. Marines will follow, slowly.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] The Japanese try a DA up in the mountains in a 20k SL hex with only one division. It'll be tough for them to break through here, as losses were light and almost equal, and he's got less in the hex already.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]OZ:[/font] Although lots of troops seem to be moving to SW OZ they're a bit hard to find. I'll keep sending the LR USN Liberators to have looks around.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SIGINT:[/font] He's buying out a lot of divisions. This one was in Kiamuze until recently.

[font="Trebuchet MS"]8/19th Division is loaded on xAK Toyokawa Maru at Sansapor (83,107).[/font]

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Sub vs Sub: SS I-7 attacking SS S-37 at 25,38 - near Cochin

Japanese Ships
SS I-7

Allied Ships
SS S-37, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

SS I-7 launches 2 torpedoes at 1,000 yards

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Morning Air attack on Dambulla , at 30,47

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12
B-26B Marauder x 14
F4F-3 Wildcat x 17

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 73,47 (near Kweiyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8370 troops, 207 guns, 485 vehicles, Assault Value = 363

Defending force 17667 troops, 77 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 577

Japanese adjusted assault: 332

Allied adjusted defense: 997

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
299 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Allied ground losses:
244 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
Guards Tank Division
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
10th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 30, 43
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Night Naval bombardment of Madras at 35,40

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami
CL Yubari
CL Tatsuta
CL Natori
DD Mochizuki
DD Mikazuki
DD Satsuki
DD Uzuki
DD Yayoi
DD Kisaragi
DD Mutsuki
DD Usugumo
DD Shiranui
DD Natsushio
DD Akigumo
DD Yugumo

Allied ground losses:
168 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

CA Mikuma firing at 3rd Marine Division
E8N2 Dave acting as spotter for CA Mogami

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Ground combat at Chengtu (75,41)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11257 troops, 129 guns, 1097 vehicles, Assault Value = 951

Defending force 21966 troops, 98 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 481

Japanese adjusted assault: 508

Allied adjusted defense: 645

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 24 (1 destroyed, 23 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1999 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 100 disabled
Non Combat: 59 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 2 disabled
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
4th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Division
19th Tank Regiment
12th Tank Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
1st Tank Division
3rd Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
7th Ind.Tank Brigade

Defending units:
1st Construction Regiment
67th Chinese Corps
60th Chinese Corps
2nd Construction Regiment
7th New Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Base Force
21st Chinese Base Force

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Ground combat at 73,47 (near Kweiyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8169 troops, 207 guns, 485 vehicles, Assault Value = 331

Defending force 17458 troops, 77 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 555

Japanese adjusted assault: 133

Allied adjusted defense: 883

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 6

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
159 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled

Allied ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
Guards Tank Division
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
10th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 31, 43
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Sub attack near Diamond Harbour at 51,39

Japanese Ships
PB Teibo Maru #2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Taizin Maru
PB Seiko Maru

Allied Ships
SS Spearfish

SS Spearfish launches 2 torpedoes at PB Teibo Maru #2
PB Seiko Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...

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Morning Air attack on 11th Garrison Unit , at 54,30 (Patna)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 41
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 14
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 17

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 16
A-20A1 Havoc x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed
A-20A1 Havoc: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A-20A1 Havoc bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground combat at Chengtu (75,41)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 17994 troops, 242 guns, 1537 vehicles, Assault Value = 941

Defending force 20635 troops, 98 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 404

Japanese adjusted assault: 902

Allied adjusted defense: 335

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
267 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Vehicles lost 118 (8 destroyed, 110 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1909 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 147 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled

Assaulting units:
15th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
1st Tank Division
12th Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Division
19th Tank Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
7th Ind.Tank Brigade

Defending units:
60th Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
2nd Construction Regiment
7th New Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Base Force
21st Chinese Base Force


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Ground combat at 79,50 (near Chihkiang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 34625 troops, 463 guns, 651 vehicles, Assault Value = 968

Defending force 29165 troops, 55 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 609

Japanese adjusted assault: 721

Allied adjusted defense: 460

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
909 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 53 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled

Allied ground losses:
892 casualties reported
Squads: 61 destroyed, 42 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd Division
3rd Tank Division
40th Division
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
11th Army
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment

Defending units:
39th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
3rd New Chinese Corps

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[font="Trebuchet MS"]I'll keep trying to put some damage on this field so that when I then do strike at the more critical fields, this won't be so useful.[/font]

[jmalter]

wrt Nauru & CentPac,

obvs, your 2nd DA attack was a mistake, didn't you see the forts-level 3 from your 1st attack? Your amph-assault lacked Combat Engineers! Should be a lesson to you, for future planning - Rgts don't have the oomph, they need to go in w/ Art / Arm / ComEgr support.

Shuttling naval bombardment TFs to attack Nauru is a good idea, 'cos it'll be some while before your 2 Rgts will be capable of another attack. Don't neglect bringing lots of supply to your guys on Nauru.

Don't abandon future ops in CentPac, keep the pressure on. Use your amph shipping to do sone rope-a-dope, alternating between invasions in the Solomons & CentPac.

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: jmalter

wrt Nauru & CentPac,

obvs, your 2nd DA attack was a mistake, didn't you see the forts-level 3 from your 1st attack? Your amph-assault lacked Combat Engineers! Should be a lesson to you, for future planning - Rgts don't have the oomph, they need to go in w/ Art / Arm / ComEgr support.

Shuttling naval bombardment TFs to attack Nauru is a good idea, 'cos it'll be some while before your 2 Rgts will be capable of another attack. Don't neglect bringing lots of supply to your guys on Nauru.

Don't abandon future ops in CentPac, keep the pressure on. Use your amph shipping to do sone rope-a-dope, alternating between invasions in the Solomons & CentPac.

I did see the level 3 forts. I didn't see the 3rd naval guard/SNLF unit added after. That was my biggest mistake there. I didn't take the time to bombard first.

The Marines (1/3 of a division) do have some combat engineers. I thought they had the firepower to deal with the two slightly roughed up small guard units and a base force that had been under constant pressure for weeks. I was wrong. I think also the very many other odd units there added a bit to the AV as well. I also did not wait until the fatigue, disblements and disruption of my own troops were completely at zero. That was a factor as can be seen in the CR for the DA at Nauru.

If you imagine the second attack being 230AV against ~150AV as in the first shock (or less since they were still recovering), I'd think the quality of the Marines would maybe knock a fort off and at least get close to an even attack.

I'll keep the pressure up for sure. [:)]

Ground combat at Nauru Island (127,128)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 8022 troops, 79 guns, 55 vehicles, Assault Value = 269

Defending force 8530 troops, 122 guns, 26 vehicles, Assault Value = 156

Allied adjusted assault: 84

Japanese adjusted defense: 129

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
864 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 69 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 17 (2 destroyed, 15 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1474 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 143 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 28 (5 destroyed, 23 disabled)
Vehicles lost 20 (1 destroyed, 19 disabled)

Assaulting units:
37th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
5th Marine Regiment
1st AmphTrac Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
Kure 5th SNLF
18th Naval Guard Unit
7th Air Defense AA Regiment
5th Air Defense AA Regiment
21st Special Base Force
13th JAAF AF Bn
16th Field AA Machinecannon Company
7th Naval Construction Battalion
37th JAAF AF Bn

Ground combat at Nauru Island (127,128)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7932 troops, 82 guns, 58 vehicles, Assault Value = 230

Defending force 10678 troops, 141 guns, 27 vehicles, Assault Value = 201

Allied adjusted assault: 37

Japanese adjusted defense: 359

Allied assault odds: 1 to 9 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
493 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 43 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (1 destroyed, 13 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1651 casualties reported
Squads: 136 destroyed, 48 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 38 (18 destroyed, 20 disabled)

Assaulting units:
37th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
5th Marine Regiment
1st AmphTrac Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
18th Naval Guard Unit
Kure 5th SNLF
86th Naval Guard Unit
7th Air Defense AA Regiment
16th Field AA Machinecannon Company
13th JAAF AF Bn
5th Air Defense AA Regiment
21st Special Base Force
7th Naval Construction Battalion
37th JAAF AF Bn

[obvert]

[font="Times New Roman"]Feb 1 - 2, 1943[/font]

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[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] Thresher finds another big TF moving down the Aussie coast. Can't hit anything though.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]INDIA: [/font] I'll have about 200k troops in Madras within 4-5 days. He's done nothing to either reinforce or move troops out. Maybe the forts here are killer, but I'm gong for it anyway.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CENT PAC: [/font] Some LSTs have arrived at Christmas Island and will move in to the Gilberts to use at Nauru and potentially Mili.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SO PAC: [/font] The experimental landing craft invasion of Rekata is so far going well. Looks like the troops there don't have any guns as there is no auto-bombardment on landing. That's nice, since I have very little there at this point! [:)]

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] The IJA takes Chengtu. Chungking prepares for the worst. About 3400AV of the Chinese army is there, and the open road to the South still allows possible reinforcements if it is put under siege, which would be unusual I think. I'll be looking though the units nearby in the next few turns to see which look the strongest to get into and near the city to maximize the SL and experience there.

Units are forming a block on the road to Sian/Lanchow that should be about 800AV dug in by the time the IJA arrives. I might be able to get another unit there, but it is x3 territory across a river, so a tough place to go without some preparation. It'll be interesting to see what he decides to do the rest of the way here.

The stack near Chikhiang looks about to fold. I decided not to move anything more in here as the units in the next hex, threatened with being cut off completely from Changsha, are probably better off keeping their forts and defending in place.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SIGINT:[/font] Another new unit showing up at Perth.

[font="Trebuchet MS"]2nd Tank Regiment is located at Perth(49,147).[/font]

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Ground combat at Chengtu (75,41)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 17660 troops, 242 guns, 1535 vehicles, Assault Value = 883

Defending force 19337 troops, 98 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 272

Japanese adjusted assault: 699

Allied adjusted defense: 189

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Chengtu !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
305 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 42 (2 destroyed, 40 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
8667 casualties reported
Squads: 171 destroyed, 94 disabled
Non Combat: 191 destroyed, 83 disabled
Engineers: 63 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 42 (22 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Units retreated 6

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
9th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Division
3rd Tank Regiment
12th Tank Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
19th Tank Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
1st Tank Division
7th Ind.Tank Brigade

Defending units:
60th Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
7th New Chinese Corps
2nd Construction Regiment
3rd Chinese Base Force
21st Chinese Base Force

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Ground combat at 79,50 (near Chihkiang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 34097 troops, 463 guns, 651 vehicles, Assault Value = 920

Defending force 28326 troops, 54 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 573

Japanese adjusted assault: 610

Allied adjusted defense: 430

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1095 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 101 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1054 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 106 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd Tank Division
3rd Division
40th Division
11th Army
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment

Defending units:
79th Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
3rd New Chinese Corps
39th Chinese Corps

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ASW attack near Geraldton at 48,141

Japanese Ships
DD Yakaze
SC Ch 14
SC Ch 11
xAP Haruna Maru
xAK Okuyo Maru
xAK Kunitu Maru
xAK Toyohasi Maru
xAK Maebasi Maru
xAK Mikasa Maru
xAK Yamagata Maru
xAK Seian Maru
DD Urukaze
E Sureko
E Tatsuko

Allied Ships
SS Thresher, hits 3

SS Thresher launches 2 torpedoes at DD Yakaze
Thresher bottoming out ....

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Ground combat at 79,50 (near Chihkiang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 33415 troops, 463 guns, 651 vehicles, Assault Value = 857

Defending force 27652 troops, 52 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 489

Japanese adjusted assault: 470

Allied adjusted defense: 313

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
325 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 42 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
696 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 78 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd Tank Division
3rd Division
40th Division
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
11th Army
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment

Defending units:
26th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
3rd New Chinese Corps
39th Chinese Corps

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[font="Trebuchet MS"]The sad state of China now. I did make some critical mistakes that led to this happening a few months before it had to. It's all about timing, and those few months could be critical. Chungking will still be a tough nut since it can't currently be surrounded and the AA there is so far taking a toll on bombers coming in while protecting the supply somewhat. [/font]

[JocMeister]

At least the respite you got after GJs disastrous Sian crossing and India en devour bought you some time. Hanging on to China into -43 is rare indeed. Pretty sad to see that despite you being able to recover disablements, dig in, get organized and even save some supply things crumbled once pressure was applied.

A bit of caution about Chungking with SLs. You might want to consider giving it up as it could potentially turn into a Japanese VP generator. He kills units off, units respawn...rinse and repeat. Not sure how many VPs Tom got from his bombardments but I lost a couple of hundred casualties each turn.

Sorry for the short note! Writing on the phone.

[leehunt27@bloomberg.net]

Good luck at Madras...

Curious your thoughts on what you would have done differently in China?

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

At least the respite you got after GJs disastrous Sian crossing and India en devour bought you some time. Hanging on to China into -43 is rare indeed. Pretty sad to see that despite you being able to recover disablements, dig in, get organized and even save some supply things crumbled once pressure was applied.

A bit of caution about Chungking with SLs. You might want to consider giving it up as it could potentially turn into a Japanese VP generator. He kills units off, units respawn...rinse and repeat. Not sure how many VPs Tom got from his bombardments but I lost a couple of hundred casualties each turn.

Sorry for the short note! Writing on the phone.

He definitely could have gotten the air force in earlier, but then it would have been slower elsewhere I'm sure.

Instead of abandoning positions when it looked untenable I've generally stayed put until the last minute and only tried to move back one he started to get even or positive attacks. So far this seems to be the one piece of my plans here that has worked consistently, and frustrated him a bit judging by the emails I get periodically! [:)]

In Chungking he can either take the time to work up the road from Kweiyang through three dug-in hexes, or he can go for Chungking right away and let me rotate units in and out. If he does the former it will take another few months at the least to get up the road. If he does the later he'll have 'fresh' units (or as fresh as the Chinese can field right now) moving in and out. At 12:1 in devices:VP even losing 12 squads a day to a bombardment is like losing a PBY on patrol.

So in short, I feel like holding again is the choice he'd like least. Even losing the entire army in Chungking wouldn't be such a VP hit considering the losses the Japanese take as well, and it could mean the lengthy siege necessary would allow the Sian/Lanchow area to stay in Chinese control for the remainder.

[obvert]

Early on the Sian defense helped slow Japanese advances, but he recovered quickly and pushed hard through the middle at Pingsiang, especially once the tank divisions had been formed in Spring 42. There I made the most of good territory and managed to maneuver until the end, getting the most out of the line from Changsha to Kukong. At Pingsiang I lost a few hundred squads I didn't have to by trying to retreat West instead of South, but that was a minor mistake.

Later as the center shifted back, the block in front of Chikhiang stymied Japanese progress for a slid three months. Whle that happened though I made some mistakes in the South, not preparing for best play and the introduction of new units to open another front. I had dug in on several key hexes near Nanning/Liuchow, but not enough and not all of them. All three should have had 1000AV to hold while reserves moved forward. The IJA punched through on the 55k hex and everything had to move back.

In the mountains I thought the territory was so good and the SL so small he couldn't really move an entire Army up the track there. I should have maxed and dug on the two 25k and 20k hexes to either side of the river crossing though, and that was my mistake here. He might have taken another 3-4 months to break through there if I'd installed units and built a few forts.

Finally, after Chikhiang collapsed following another two months of siege, I should have installed a few good Corps that I had coming from reserves into the x3 hex to the north of Kweiyang, This hex was given away, and it could have held another 1-2 months with the off-road supply situation and the good ground there.

All in all, I think he should be in the position he's in now in April-May 43 had I played each of those moves correctly. So I've given him 3-4 months for free in China while he's given me 3-4 months free in So Pac and Cent Pac. Maybe it evens out! [;)]

[Yaab]

At least you hold the Changteh-Changhsa Festung Area with its auto-supply generation.

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: Yaab

At least you hold the Changteh-Changhsa Festung Area with its auto-supply generation.

Yeah, he can go for the VPs from those units, but most of them still have supply, and Changsha still has four forts as well. Wenchow hasn't been tried yet either. I'd love to keep that and land a few Marines divisions there in late 43!! [;)]

[HansBolter]

ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: Yaab

At least you hold the Changteh-Changhsa Festung Area with its auto-supply generation.

Yeah, he can go for the VPs from those units, but most of them still have supply, and Changsha still has four forts as well. Wenchow hasn't been tried yet either. I'd love to keep that and land a few Marines divisions there in late 43!! [;)]

Doesn't Wenchow also produce supply for its garrison?

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: obvert


In Chungking he can either take the time to work up the road from Kweiyang through three dug-in hexes, or he can go for Chungking right away and let me rotate units in and out. If he does the former it will take another few months at the least to get up the road. If he does the later he'll have 'fresh' units (or as fresh as the Chinese can field right now) moving in and out. At 12:1 in devices:VP even losing 12 squads a day to a bombardment is like losing a PBY on patrol.

It's 12 to 6 on the ratio, so 2:1.

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: Yaab

At least you hold the Changteh-Changhsa Festung Area with its auto-supply generation.

Yeah, he can go for the VPs from those units, but most of them still have supply, and Changsha still has four forts as well. Wenchow hasn't been tried yet either. I'd love to keep that and land a few Marines divisions there in late 43!! [;)]

Doesn't Wenchow also produce supply for its garrison?

Yes, in spite of what he does, it keeps holding at around 4k and has been for more than a year. I've got two Corps there equalling about 830AV.

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: obvert


In Chungking he can either take the time to work up the road from Kweiyang through three dug-in hexes, or he can go for Chungking right away and let me rotate units in and out. If he does the former it will take another few months at the least to get up the road. If he does the later he'll have 'fresh' units (or as fresh as the Chinese can field right now) moving in and out. At 12:1 in devices:VP even losing 12 squads a day to a bombardment is like losing a PBY on patrol.

It's 12 to 6 on the ratio, so 2:1.

Yep. I was just equating it to other stuff above. He still won't lose as many points as the Chinese even at 6:1, but it'll potentially hurt at Chungking if an attack goes south and it's 400-500 squads lost.