1.2.2.8 - Use Oil issue

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1.2.2.8 - Use Oil issue

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Tell me if this is right.

The Commonwealth has a trade agreement with China to send it one Oil point.

The Burma Road is Closed!

The Oil Resource allocated for that Trade, is still available during the Use Oil phase.

I don't think that should be allowed.

RAC 5.0

"If, during production, it is possible for the promised resources to be delivered, then they must be delivered. If you cannot meet the promise you made, you still cannot use them yourself this turn."





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RE: 1.2.2.8 - Use Oil issue

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RE: 1.2.2.8 - Use Oil issue

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Yes, there is a bug here, but it is complicated. It is perfectly legal for the CW to use any oil resource it wants to to reorganize with; however, if it picks an oil it has assigned to a trade agreement, some other oil point must be assigned to that trade agreement to replace it. MWiF is not doing that.

However, there is nothing that requires the player to use that oil; just click on the oil resource on the Use Oil form, and MWiF won't use it.
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RE: 1.2.2.8 - Use Oil issue

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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

Yes, there is a bug here, but it is complicated. It is perfectly legal for the CW to use any oil resource it wants to to reorganize with; however, if it picks an oil it has assigned to a trade agreement, some other oil point must be assigned to that trade agreement to replace it. MWiF is not doing that.

However, there is nothing that requires the player to use that oil; just click on the oil resource on the Use Oil form, and MWiF won't use it.


But surely rule 5.0 as I quoted from RAC, would be an exception for the CW to use using ANY oil resource it wants! The way I read it, what the rule is actually saying is that whatever the result of a resource sent as trade (as to whether it arrives at its destination or not), those resources are not available to you for that turn. Period.

Given that during Production Planning Preliminary, which occurs before the Use Oil phase, you have the opportunity to specify which oil resources you want to designate for use for your trade agreements, wouldn't it just be easier to remove these oil resources from the Use Oil phase that are tied up in the (TS) trade agreements.

It really doesn't matter if the oil actually arrives at it's destination or not, as per rule 5.0 you are not allowed to use it either way. So it really shouldn't be listed as available during the Use Oil phase.

I really can't see that it needs to be so complicated.

Brian.




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RE: 1.2.2.8 - Use Oil issue

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It isn't complicated and it is a bug which will be logged for fixing. But it's also a low priority bug because it is relatively simple to avoid using it for re-org and then it will be lost during production.
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RE: 1.2.2.8 - Use Oil issue

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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

It isn't complicated and it is a bug which will be logged for fixing. But it's also a low priority bug because it is relatively simple to avoid using it for re-org and then it will be lost during production.

Absolutely understand Paul that this is low priority, as you correctly say it is easier to work around.
It's just that Courtenay gave me the impression it was hard to fix, when I didn't think it was.

When I see bugs, whether minor or otherwise, I still see it important that they are posted here, and I'm glad to help out where I can. [:)]

Brian.
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