Greyjoy(J) vs. Obvert(A) - The air war in China- DBB, SLs, PDU OFF
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RE: 1943!
You have to give that young man some advice! [:D]The game is on hold untill the new year cause Erik is attending to his honeymoon overseas and promised her not to bring the pc with him
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RE: 1943!
ORIGINAL: witpqs
You have to give that young man some advice! [:D]The game is on hold untill the new year cause Erik is attending to his honeymoon overseas and promised her not to bring the pc with him
He's well ahead me in that "art" of dealing with GFs/wifes etc... To me, when travelling, is always forbidden to bring with me th PC... the best i can do is to bring the ipad to remain in touch with the forum...but nothing else!
He only had to oblige for the honeymoon... can't blame him, right!?
RE: 1943!
Can only see three hexes circled. [:)]
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RE: 1943!
If i'll manage to get through Kunming and the last two western chinese bases and estabilish a connection with Burma, i may be able to secure a whole front for another year or so.
Port Blair and Sebang will be the other two western Bastions of the NW perimeter.
Sebang is already a level 8 AF and soon it will guest a whole reinforced division behind several forts.
The rest of the Adamans will be garrisoned, but not build up (wanna leave them as dot bases), while we'll build Tavoy and Mergui on the coast of Thailand.
The more i reduce his juicy options of advance, the more i hope to invite him in the CentPac vector...
Port Blair and Sebang will be the other two western Bastions of the NW perimeter.
Sebang is already a level 8 AF and soon it will guest a whole reinforced division behind several forts.
The rest of the Adamans will be garrisoned, but not build up (wanna leave them as dot bases), while we'll build Tavoy and Mergui on the coast of Thailand.
The more i reduce his juicy options of advance, the more i hope to invite him in the CentPac vector...
RE: 1943!
"I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!"ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
I meant 3![]()
"I can defend Burma with just these three locations: here, here, here, and here... Oh!!" Pfffft....
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RE: 1943!
ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
That's what i mean for western Burma
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Agree on your key hexes GJ. You can only hope for an overland attack into Burma. For me, you beat the Japanese in Burma by hooking deeper and flanking it. Silly to slog overland. Funny, but with all their growing firepower, the key to Allied victory is not in confronting the Japanese army but seizing key points on the map and forcing the Japanese to react. It is just impossible to defend every key point and the LST and Allied engineers can make just about any unattended point on the map that allows for a decent airbase very attractive.
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RE: 1943!
ORIGINAL: EHansen
I see you do not have Ramree Island on your menu. I have found that I can support a very large number of both air and land forces in Burma by building it up.
There is only one hexside that you can move out of Ramree Island and that is one of his highlighted hexes. Impossible to hold the island itself when the Allies gain the edge in sea power-so that one inland hex is probably better. But yes, you are correct. If the Allies can take it and clear a path, (and have some LSTs) then supply will flow out of Ramree anywhere into Burma. I only found this out by accident.
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RE: 1943!
ORIGINAL: crsutton
ORIGINAL: EHansen
I see you do not have Ramree Island on your menu. I have found that I can support a very large number of both air and land forces in Burma by building it up.
There is only one hexside that you can move out of Ramree Island and that is one of his highlighted hexes. Impossible to hold the island itself when the Allies gain the edge in sea power-so that one inland hex is probably better. But yes, you are correct. If the Allies can take it and clear a path, (and have some LSTs) then supply will flow out of Ramree anywhere into Burma. I only found this out by accident.
Ramree can be bombed to dust once the allies gain the control of the seas. It's a trap. Don't like to waste important units defending it. A Thai division will be more than enough there.
A reinforced division plus some AT guns and some heavy guns (150mm and more) on the crossriver hex east of Ramree and nothing will pass trhough. Belive me. A well dug in corp of 600 AVs in +3 terrain with some decent AA units and that becomes a dead road for the allies.
Agree also that the allies should take another vector. But every other vector means an amphib op...and amphib ops are risky and take more time to be planned... just what i want: TIME. I wanna force him to chose for an hail mary pass in Sumatra or Java and a Pacific route...wanna deny him any vector that lets him use his LBA...
Also a "deep" Burma is needed untill the Chinese are finally doomed in the western chinese mountains... so i need to plan accordingly with my defences
RE: 1943!
Conversely, if the Allies can easily capture Cox's Bazaar, Akyab & Ramree they can build up some strong bases to "control" Burma. Just like island hopping, continental style.
Next you start thinking about Pegu, Moulmein, Tavoy etc.
At the least, I'd get strong (Bde+) units into them and build forts, make it hard for Eric.
Never assume a perfect defence, there is usually a counter to it.
Next you start thinking about Pegu, Moulmein, Tavoy etc.
At the least, I'd get strong (Bde+) units into them and build forts, make it hard for Eric.
Never assume a perfect defence, there is usually a counter to it.
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RE: 1943!
ORIGINAL: JeffK
Conversely, if the Allies can easily capture Cox's Bazaar, Akyab & Ramree they can build up some strong bases to "control" Burma. Just like island hopping, continental style.
Next you start thinking about Pegu, Moulmein, Tavoy etc.
At the least, I'd get strong (Bde+) units into them and build forts, make it hard for Eric.
Never assume a perfect defence, there is usually a counter to it.
True Jeff.
However Cox and Akyab are impossible to be defended once the allies get their Navy back to the Bay of Bengal (once Ceylon falls).
Nav bombing + LCUs advancing on the costal road is a combo not even a good IJA division can stand. I've already tried to hold Akyab against QBall. I've had there the 33rd ID and several Arty units. Lost a whole division as soon as the allies came rolling down the road. I'll place a couple of SNLF units there, just to prevent an easy grab, but nothing more. Ramree will be defended more heavily, but just with secondary units. Wanna preserve my crack units for the places that really need to be held no matter the cost.
And even when the allies get Ramree, It won't be that easy to advance towards Pegu, Moulmein or Tavoy by an amphib landing. Sure they can, but they need to gain the total control of the skies and the seas first... and that means...lot of time, which is exactly what i am looking for. Time!!!!!
Am now massing supplies at Rangoon. The goal is to have a reserve of 400K supplies at Ragoon by the time my units will re-deploy in Burma. Rangoon and Mandalay are already level 9 AF,which will be important to keep the control of the skies for the next 12 months
RE: 1943!
And so Erik got back and he started to hammer me back again...
Mar 15-16, 43
The allies sweep Madras and do a massacre...
The overwhelming quality of the 1943 allied planes is really starting to hurt... 84 to 44 in his favour...ouch!
His Corsairs and P-40Ks are really making the difference now... losing far too many pilots for my liking and the KI-45 is really starting to show how much is outclassed in 1943... it's just a sitting duck, even when flown by top-quality pilots (got the very best of the IJAAF flying Nicks...)
The Tony KI-61b made its debut and got a 1-1 result...not bad but these planes won't win me the air war for sure in 1943...the Oscar is simply a much better plane
So far, the plane with the best results is the KI-43 IIIa... which cannot stand against a Corsair, but can, at least, avoid a lot of contacts being so nimble and fast
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 21
A6M5c Zero x 30
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 30
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 144
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 9
Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 4 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 3 destroyed
CAP engaged:
Chitose-1 with A6M5c Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 21 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
4th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 25 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
5th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 29 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
21st Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 21 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
54th Sentai with Ki-43-IIIa Oscar (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 21 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
264th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 22 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
265th Sentai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 17
A6M5c Zero x 29
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 30
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 134
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 9
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 4 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 5 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 16
A6M5c Zero x 27
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 30
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 119
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 9
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 3 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 15
A6M5c Zero x 25
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 30
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 104
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 7
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 15
A6M5c Zero x 24
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 30
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 95
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 7
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 12
A6M5c Zero x 22
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 28
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 87
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 6
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 32
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
17 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 5
A6M5c Zero x 17
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 18
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 60
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 2
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 81
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
25 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
3 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
18 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
10 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
3 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
A6M5c Zero x 11
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 12
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 29
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
In China, we got a bloody nose near Kunming...
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Ground combat at 70,48 (near Kunming)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 12327 troops, 240 guns, 492 vehicles, Assault Value = 460
Defending force 22093 troops, 119 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 650
Japanese adjusted assault: 249
Allied adjusted defense: 637
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1442 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 95 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Vehicles lost 11 (2 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
245 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Assaulting units:
Guards Tank Division
104th/C Division
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
32nd Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps
73rd Chinese Corps
In SWPAC, heavy allied recon over Lae, Umboi Island and Finshtafen...
Broome and Derby are reconned too...

Mar 15-16, 43
The allies sweep Madras and do a massacre...
The overwhelming quality of the 1943 allied planes is really starting to hurt... 84 to 44 in his favour...ouch!
His Corsairs and P-40Ks are really making the difference now... losing far too many pilots for my liking and the KI-45 is really starting to show how much is outclassed in 1943... it's just a sitting duck, even when flown by top-quality pilots (got the very best of the IJAAF flying Nicks...)
The Tony KI-61b made its debut and got a 1-1 result...not bad but these planes won't win me the air war for sure in 1943...the Oscar is simply a much better plane
So far, the plane with the best results is the KI-43 IIIa... which cannot stand against a Corsair, but can, at least, avoid a lot of contacts being so nimble and fast
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 21
A6M5c Zero x 30
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 30
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 144
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 9
Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 4 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 3 destroyed
CAP engaged:
Chitose-1 with A6M5c Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 21 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
4th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 25 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
5th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 29 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
21st Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 21 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
54th Sentai with Ki-43-IIIa Oscar (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 21 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
264th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 22 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
265th Sentai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 17
A6M5c Zero x 29
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 30
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 134
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 9
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 4 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 5 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 16
A6M5c Zero x 27
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 30
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 119
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 9
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 3 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 15
A6M5c Zero x 25
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 30
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 104
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 7
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 15
A6M5c Zero x 24
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 30
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 95
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 7
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 12
A6M5c Zero x 22
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 28
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 87
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 6
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 32
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
17 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 5
A6M5c Zero x 17
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 18
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 60
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 2
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 81
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
25 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
3 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
18 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
10 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
3 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
A6M5c Zero x 11
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 12
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 29
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
In China, we got a bloody nose near Kunming...
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Ground combat at 70,48 (near Kunming)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 12327 troops, 240 guns, 492 vehicles, Assault Value = 460
Defending force 22093 troops, 119 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 650
Japanese adjusted assault: 249
Allied adjusted defense: 637
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1442 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 95 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Vehicles lost 11 (2 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
245 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Assaulting units:
Guards Tank Division
104th/C Division
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
32nd Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps
73rd Chinese Corps
In SWPAC, heavy allied recon over Lae, Umboi Island and Finshtafen...
Broome and Derby are reconned too...

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RE: 1943!
You suffered less then a 1:2 ratio. Something any Japanese player should be happy about IMO. Erik lost almost an entire month worth of P40K replacements in a single day. He will not be happy with that trade.

RE: 1943!
If you discount your Ki-45 twin engine heavy fighters (62 losses), you actally come out ahead for single engine fighters 70 allies lost to 38 Japanese.) Might be time to withdrawl them to safer areas like China and the Home Islands.
RE: 1943!
ORIGINAL: Yaab
I would save Ki-45 for attacks against bombers and naval/ground bombardment and strafing. Clearly they are not made for CAP/sweep stuff.
Mine have done OK, even against P-38 stratosweeps. It really depends on pilot quality.
RE: 1943!
Mar 17, 43
Made a mistake with our HRs.
Last month i've let two LBA groups refit aboard Kaga and Shokaku not to the usual 45 a/c limit but to the ship limit.
I was hard pressed to send the CVs to the planned raid on the western Indian coast, so i've decided to keep them as they were, always keeping them at 50% rest no matter the mission, thinking that this would have solved the problem untill the CVs were avaible again.
I've now sent those two sentais to Madras and kept them at 30%CAP, 20% escort (0 range) and 50% rest, thinking that only 40 and 36 planes would have been available that day. Mistake: The allies attacked Madras and all the 81 and 72 planes took off simultaneusly. Told Erik about it and asked for a re-do (i would have substituted those two sentais with 2x45 planes "normal ones", but he declined.
Feel sorry. Even if 70 planes didn't make any critical difference in the outcome, i hate to break the rules
, especially when the initial oversight was recognized in time and not corrected immediately :-/
I've sent them now back to resize to 45... One is already resized. The other one will be resized as soon as the fragments reach Singapore.
However... Madras is heavily attacked again!
The KI-45s are sent back to Calcutta and Rangoon, substituted by some decent 1E fighters.
The allies arrive with an extraordinary variation of planes... LOTS of them. LRCAP (quite a lot), Sweeps (very well coordinated) and 4E bombers heavily escorted.
They attacked even by night, causing some destruction among my planes on the runaways...
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Night Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 9
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Night Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 177
A6M5c Zero x 20
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 39
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 38
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 21
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 24
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 8 (LRCAP)
Hurricane IIb Trop x 10 (lRcaP)
P-400 Airacobra x 16(LRCAP)
P-40K Warhawk x 7 (LRCAP)
F4F-4 Wildcat x 76 (mostly LRCAP)
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
27 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 25000 feet
9 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 25000 feet
CAP engaged:
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 36 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
Chitose-1 with A6M5c Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 14 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
1st Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 23 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 23 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
54th Sentai with Ki-43-IIIa Oscar (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 15 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
265th Sentai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 12 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 51 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 47 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
Unyo and Chuyo are the two "guilty" sentais...[:(]
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 171
A6M5c Zero x 20
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 37
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 37
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 21
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 22
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 12
P-400 Airacobra x 13
P-40K Warhawk x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 58
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
21 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 162
A6M5c Zero x 18
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 36
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 35
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 21
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 22
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 12
P-400 Airacobra x 13
F4F-4 Wildcat x 22
F4U-1 Corsair x 17
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 136
A6M5c Zero x 16
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 33
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 32
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 20
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 21
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 7
Martlet II x 12
Hurricane IIb Trop x 8
Hurricane IIc Trop x 18
Kittyhawk III x 16
Kittyhawk III x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Martlet II: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 25000 feet *
2 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 25000 feet *
3 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 123
A6M5c Zero x 13
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 31
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 30
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 17
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 19
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 11
Hurricane IIb Trop x 4
Hurricane IIc Trop x 34
P-400 Airacobra x 10
P-40K Warhawk x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 25000 feet *
2 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 25000 feet
6 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 25000 feet *
2 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 25000 feet
2 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 25000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 106
A6M5c Zero x 12
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 28
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 25
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 14
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 16
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 6
Hurricane IIb Trop x 17
P-400 Airacobra x 8
F4F-4 Wildcat x 19
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 91
A6M5c Zero x 9
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 22
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 24
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 10
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 15
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 3
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14
P-40K Warhawk x 2
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 25000 feet *
1 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40 the bombers arrived at 22,000 feet!!!!
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 79
A6M5c Zero x 6
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 20
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 19
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 10
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 13
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 6
Liberator II x 18
Kittyhawk I x 32
B-24D Liberator x 14
P-40E Warhawk x 25
P-40K Warhawk x 1
F4F-4 Wildcat x 24
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
J1N1-C Irving: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 2 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 7
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 70
A6M5c Zero x 3
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 18
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 18
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 7
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 8
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 4
Martlet II x 2
Liberator II x 9
B-24D Liberator x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 21
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Martlet II: 1 destroyed
Liberator II: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
Liberator II: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24D Liberator: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Liberator II bombing from 22000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 22000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 37
A6M5c Zero x 1
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 13
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 5
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 4
Hurricane IIb Trop x 14
Hurricane IIc Trop x 32
P-39D Airacobra x 25
P-40K Warhawk x 1
F4F-4 Wildcat x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-43A-1 Lancer: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 27
A6M5c Zero x 1
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 12
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 11
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 3
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 3
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14
P-40K Warhawk x 23
F4F-4 Wildcat x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 25000 feet *
15 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
1 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 14
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 8
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 4
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 2
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 3
B-24D Liberator x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
P-43A-1 Lancer: 1 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 6 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 22000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 9
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 7
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 2
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 58
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
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Afternoon Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 51
A6M5c Zero x 6
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 1
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 9
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 4
P-38G Lightning x 7
P-400 Airacobra x 6
P-40K Warhawk x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-43A-1 Lancer: 1 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 25000 feet
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Afternoon Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 33
A6M5c Zero x 5
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 4
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 5
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 11
Kittyhawk III x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 19
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
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Submarine attack near Coos Bay at 212,61 as far as i can tell from the intel, a ventura squadron was loaded aboard
Japanese Ships
SS I-5
Allied Ships
xAK Frederick J. Turner, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires * sunk*
xAK Frederick J. Turner is sighted by SS I-5
SS I-5 launches 2 torpedoes
Madras AF remains open, but my sentais are really suffering... 150 planes lost for 100 of the allies... some 30 pilots KIA and 40 more WIA...
Quite a slaughterhouse...
And it ain't over yet...
Gotta speed up the evacuation...
Made a mistake with our HRs.
Last month i've let two LBA groups refit aboard Kaga and Shokaku not to the usual 45 a/c limit but to the ship limit.
I was hard pressed to send the CVs to the planned raid on the western Indian coast, so i've decided to keep them as they were, always keeping them at 50% rest no matter the mission, thinking that this would have solved the problem untill the CVs were avaible again.
I've now sent those two sentais to Madras and kept them at 30%CAP, 20% escort (0 range) and 50% rest, thinking that only 40 and 36 planes would have been available that day. Mistake: The allies attacked Madras and all the 81 and 72 planes took off simultaneusly. Told Erik about it and asked for a re-do (i would have substituted those two sentais with 2x45 planes "normal ones", but he declined.
Feel sorry. Even if 70 planes didn't make any critical difference in the outcome, i hate to break the rules
I've sent them now back to resize to 45... One is already resized. The other one will be resized as soon as the fragments reach Singapore.
However... Madras is heavily attacked again!
The KI-45s are sent back to Calcutta and Rangoon, substituted by some decent 1E fighters.
The allies arrive with an extraordinary variation of planes... LOTS of them. LRCAP (quite a lot), Sweeps (very well coordinated) and 4E bombers heavily escorted.
They attacked even by night, causing some destruction among my planes on the runaways...
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Night Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 9
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Night Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 177
A6M5c Zero x 20
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 39
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 38
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 21
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 24
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 8 (LRCAP)
Hurricane IIb Trop x 10 (lRcaP)
P-400 Airacobra x 16(LRCAP)
P-40K Warhawk x 7 (LRCAP)
F4F-4 Wildcat x 76 (mostly LRCAP)
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
27 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 25000 feet
9 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 25000 feet
CAP engaged:
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 36 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
Chitose-1 with A6M5c Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 14 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
1st Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 23 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 23 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
54th Sentai with Ki-43-IIIa Oscar (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 15 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
265th Sentai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 12 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 51 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 47 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
Unyo and Chuyo are the two "guilty" sentais...[:(]
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 171
A6M5c Zero x 20
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 37
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 37
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 21
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 22
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 12
P-400 Airacobra x 13
P-40K Warhawk x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 58
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
21 x F4F-4 Wildcat sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 162
A6M5c Zero x 18
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 36
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 35
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 21
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 22
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 12
P-400 Airacobra x 13
F4F-4 Wildcat x 22
F4U-1 Corsair x 17
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 136
A6M5c Zero x 16
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 33
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 32
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 20
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 21
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 7
Martlet II x 12
Hurricane IIb Trop x 8
Hurricane IIc Trop x 18
Kittyhawk III x 16
Kittyhawk III x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Martlet II: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 25000 feet *
2 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 25000 feet *
3 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 123
A6M5c Zero x 13
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 31
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 30
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 17
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 19
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 11
Hurricane IIb Trop x 4
Hurricane IIc Trop x 34
P-400 Airacobra x 10
P-40K Warhawk x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 25000 feet *
2 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 25000 feet
6 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 25000 feet *
2 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 25000 feet
2 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 25000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 106
A6M5c Zero x 12
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 28
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 25
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 14
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 16
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 6
Hurricane IIb Trop x 17
P-400 Airacobra x 8
F4F-4 Wildcat x 19
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 91
A6M5c Zero x 9
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 22
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 24
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 10
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 15
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 3
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14
P-40K Warhawk x 2
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 25000 feet *
1 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40 the bombers arrived at 22,000 feet!!!!
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 79
A6M5c Zero x 6
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 20
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 19
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 10
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 13
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 6
Liberator II x 18
Kittyhawk I x 32
B-24D Liberator x 14
P-40E Warhawk x 25
P-40K Warhawk x 1
F4F-4 Wildcat x 24
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
J1N1-C Irving: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 2 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 7
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 70
A6M5c Zero x 3
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 18
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 18
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 7
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 8
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 4
Martlet II x 2
Liberator II x 9
B-24D Liberator x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 21
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Martlet II: 1 destroyed
Liberator II: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
Liberator II: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24D Liberator: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Liberator II bombing from 22000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 22000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 37
A6M5c Zero x 1
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 13
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 5
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 4
Hurricane IIb Trop x 14
Hurricane IIc Trop x 32
P-39D Airacobra x 25
P-40K Warhawk x 1
F4F-4 Wildcat x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-43A-1 Lancer: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 27
A6M5c Zero x 1
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 12
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 11
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 3
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 3
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14
P-40K Warhawk x 23
F4F-4 Wildcat x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 25000 feet *
15 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
1 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 14
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 8
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 4
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 2
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 3
B-24D Liberator x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
P-43A-1 Lancer: 1 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 6 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 22000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 9
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 7
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 2
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 58
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
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Afternoon Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 51
A6M5c Zero x 6
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 1
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 9
Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 4
P-38G Lightning x 7
P-400 Airacobra x 6
P-40K Warhawk x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-43A-1 Lancer: 1 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 25000 feet
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Afternoon Air attack on Madras , at 35,40
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 33
A6M5c Zero x 5
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 4
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 5
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 11
Kittyhawk III x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 19
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 25000 feet
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Submarine attack near Coos Bay at 212,61 as far as i can tell from the intel, a ventura squadron was loaded aboard
Japanese Ships
SS I-5
Allied Ships
xAK Frederick J. Turner, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires * sunk*
xAK Frederick J. Turner is sighted by SS I-5
SS I-5 launches 2 torpedoes
Madras AF remains open, but my sentais are really suffering... 150 planes lost for 100 of the allies... some 30 pilots KIA and 40 more WIA...
Quite a slaughterhouse...
And it ain't over yet...
Gotta speed up the evacuation...




