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RE: Mar 23rd: Bataan and Trincomalee holds!

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Trincomalee was naval bombed and then assaulted. The assault failed. Moreover, these cruisers will need to leave to rearm, while I can bomb and rearm at Colombo day after day.


Eventually he will get Trincomalee; but every day that holds count. Notice CL Sendai on fire and 2nd Division fatigued!!!
the "reinforcements" from Colombo will likely be as fatigued and disrupted after so many naval bombings!


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Naval bombardment of Trincomalee at 31,47 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

15 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Atago
CA Takao
CL Sendai, Shell hits 4, on fire

Allied ground losses:
112 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 1

CA Atago firing at Trincomalee
CA Takao firing at 99th Indian Brigade
CL Sendai firing at Trincomalee Fortress
Trincomalee Fortress firing at CL Sendai




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Ground combat at Trincomalee (31,47)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13761 troops, 135 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 389

Defending force 8835 troops, 64 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 86

Japanese adjusted assault: 73

Allied adjusted defense: 139

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
121 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
322 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 9 (8 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
2nd Division
41st JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
Trincomalee Fortress
99th Indian Brigade


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RE: Mar 23rd: Bataan and Trincomalee holds!

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Then Clark got attacked, the defense was heroic and regrettably the base already run out of supply; hopefully he won't notice it yet as the combat report is not showing lack of supply

Ground combat at Bataan (78,77)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 22794 troops, 173 guns, 259 vehicles, Assault Value = 719

Defending force 38135 troops, 369 guns, 132 vehicles, Assault Value = 491

Japanese adjusted assault: 1072

Allied adjusted defense: 823

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1462 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 91 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 21 disabled
Vehicles lost 38 (2 destroyed, 36 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1243 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 146 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 44 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled
Vehicles lost 18 (8 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Assaulting units:
21st Ind Engineer Regiment
65th Brigade
4th Tank Regiment
4th Division
2nd Tank Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
14th Army
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
4th Marine Regiment
21st PA Infantry Division
41st PA Infantry Division
31st Infantry Regiment
194th Tank Battalion
51st PA Infantry Division
301st Construction Battalion
31st PA Infantry Division
1st Constabulary Regiment
11th PA Infantry Division
4th Constabulary Regiment
11th PAAC Avn Sup
Asiatic Fleet
Cavite USN Base Force
Far East USAAF
1st USMC AA Battalion
86th PS Field Artillery Battalion
III/Prov'nl SPM Grp
24th PS FA Regiment
803rd Aviation Engineer Battalion
II/Prov'nl SPM Grp
US Forces Far East
I/Prov'nl SPM Grp
!/23rd PS FA Battalion
4th PAAC Avn Sup
II Corps
Clark Field AAF Base Force
Bataan USN Base Force
Manila Bay Defenses
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
71st PA Infantry Division
1st PA Infantry Division
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
24th Avn Sup
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
301st PA Field Artillery Regiment
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RE: Mar 23rd: Bataan and Trincomalee holds!

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In other news:

- I will do a second bombing of Tulagi, as he didn't react to the 1st, then it will be time to withdraw.

- Nothing to report in Amchitka or Ndeni; in both I will put some BF to help building fortification.

- The carriers are at Suva, getting some well deserved rest. I will keep them there until I know the KB whereabouts, then they will go back to PH for their scheduled refit.

- CV Hornet is in San Diego, it will provide ASW cover to a TF carrying the 6th Marine Reg. then go to PH to refit and join Halsey's TFs

- I am debating if I should send some reinforcements to Colombo; I don't regret evacuating the Australians, as they are too good troops to waste in a place with no retreat. I will see if I can find some LCU that is scheduled to withdraw soon to "volunteer" for this.

We will see
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Mar 24th: Bezwada artillery and submarines

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Mar 24th was a turn full of submarines strikes. I hit two cargo ships carrying troops and one Kiso PB. He sunk xAP Princess Alice with elements of 42nd Base Group

Sub attack near Georgetown at 47,75

Japanese Ships
PB Odatsuki Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PB Hozugawa Maru

Allied Ships
SS KXVIII

Sub attack near Miri at 62,83

Japanese Ships
xAK Venice Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
xAK Meiyo Maru
xAK Eihuku Maru
xAK Anyo Maru
PB Tokotsu Maru

Allied Ships
SS Seal

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Sub attack near Utan Melintang at 48,76

Japanese Ships
xAK Midori Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Tatsumiya Maru

Allied Ships
SS KXVIII

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Submarine attack near Amchitka Island at 158,52

Japanese Ships
SS I-170

Allied Ships
xAP Princess Alice, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled

Then the daily dose of lead for my Imperial guards friends:

Night Naval bombardment of Colombo at 29,48

Allied Ships
BB Royal Sovereign
BB Revenge
CA Dorsetshire
CL Glasgow
CL Emerald
CL Enterprise
CL Hobart
DD Isis
DD Hotspur
DD Griffin
DD Fortune
DD Encounter
DD Decoy
DD Tjerk Hiddes
DD Norman
DD Nizam
DD Napier
DD Nestor
DD Vendetta
DD Vampire
DD Pillsbury
DD Stewart
DE Starling

Japanese ground losses:
485 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 40 (1 destroyed, 39 disabled)


Notice that merging all ships into a big TF yielded the same results of a smaller one; so tomorrow I will form 3 bombarment TFs instead.

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RE: Mar 24th: Bezwada artillery and submarines

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Then a most interesting event; of the three LCUs marching to Bezwada, only the two artillery ones did the river cross.
Most likely scenario is that my level bombing slowed the 48th division while the 2 artillery LCUs moved unhindered.

What happened next puzzles me; 1st there was a typical, harmless bombing:

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Ground combat at Bezwada (39,36)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 516 troops, 48 guns, 43 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Defending force 7333 troops, 156 guns, 55 vehicles, Assault Value = 269

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
16th Australian Brigade
17th Australian Brigade


Followed by this message:

1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment RETREATING towards Cocanada
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion RETREATING towards Cocanada

Can I assume severe Japanese losses?? if not then this spoiled the fun; as you can see on the picture, he noticed the trap and is now retreating

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The air strikes:

Morning Air attack on 48th Division, at 39,37 , near Bezwada

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
6 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 48th Division, at 39,37 , near Bezwada

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 4 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 8

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Blenheim IV bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
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RE: Mar 24th: Bezwada artillery and submarines

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Most likely he let the arty go across the river first knowing it would auto-bombard (equivalent of a shock attack by arty) so he could get intel on the units defending Bezwada. He may also have known that arty units tend to retreat if they do not have infantry in the same hex to protect them.
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RE: Mar 24th: Bezwada artillery and submarines

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Most likely he let the arty go across the river first knowing it would auto-bombard (equivalent of a shock attack by arty) so he could get intel on the units defending Bezwada. He may also have known that arty units tend to retreat if they do not have infantry in the same hex to protect them.

Is there any penalty for the assaulting artillery?

if not then it is a small exploit, I mean, in real life Armies built recon units to do precisely what you are describing
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Most likely he let the arty go across the river first knowing it would auto-bombard (equivalent of a shock attack by arty) so he could get intel on the units defending Bezwada. He may also have known that arty units tend to retreat if they do not have infantry in the same hex to protect them.

Is there any penalty for the assaulting artillery?
I am not aware of any, but they could suffer some disruption/fatigue. The report that the assaulting force had 48 guns does not necessarily mean that they all were firing during their bombardment either - there could have been some actual disablement of guns or squads, similar to an amphib landing. I will try to pay attention to this in my sandbox game.
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RE: Mar 24th: Bezwada artillery and submarines

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The Japanese casualties in ships and pilots feel massive to me, turns my stomach.
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The Japanese casualties in ships and pilots feel massive to me, turns my stomach.
Not sure what you are expecting the AAR writer to do with that comment Hyacinth. Stop fighting the Japanese?

The idea of the game is to try and inflict casualties on enemy equipment and pixeltruppen. This does NOT mean any hostility toward real-life Japanese people, or a desire to see real people die in huge numbers. It's just a game.

If it makes you feel any better, take a look at the Allied losses in the Philippines, Singapore and Hong Kong.
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RE: Mar 24th: Bezwada artillery and submarines

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The Japanese casualties in ships and pilots feel massive to me, turns my stomach.

Are you sure the comment is not for IdahoNYer's AAR?
[;)] [:D] he sunk Ryujo and Hosho and that's serious long term implications.

I am not unhappy with my tally, but I haven't hit anything strategically important. It is still good as slow attrition is key, specially on destroyers:
Notice I will end the war with almost 1,000 DD/DE/APDs + 150 cruisers + 41 battleships + more than 150 carriers [X(][:D]
So I am not too concerned with my own losses

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Updates from the last report:
Battleships sunk are BC Repulse and BB Ramillies. BB Resolution and BB Maryland will be out of action for a long time.

For Japan, cruisers and many destroyers were lost on Ceylon's raid
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The Japanese casualties in ships and pilots feel massive to me, turns my stomach.
Not sure what you are expecting the AAR writer to do with that comment Hyacinth. Stop fighting the Japanese?

The idea of the game is to try and inflict casualties on enemy equipment and pixeltruppen. This does NOT mean any hostility toward real-life Japanese people, or a desire to see real people die in huge numbers. It's just a game.

If it makes you feel any better, take a look at the Allied losses in the Philippines, Singapore and Hong Kong.


You are joking right? This is Anglo humor? [X(]
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These are the aircraft losses:

understanding of course FOW likely increased Japanese losses
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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: Hyacinth

The Japanese casualties in ships and pilots feel massive to me, turns my stomach.
Not sure what you are expecting the AAR writer to do with that comment Hyacinth. Stop fighting the Japanese?

The idea of the game is to try and inflict casualties on enemy equipment and pixeltruppen. This does NOT mean any hostility toward real-life Japanese people, or a desire to see real people die in huge numbers. It's just a game.

If it makes you feel any better, take a look at the Allied losses in the Philippines, Singapore and Hong Kong.


You are joking right? This is Anglo humor? [X(]
Not joking nor trying to be funny. When someone says something turns their stomach and doesn't put a winking smiley there to show they are kidding, I take them at their word. If that is the case, I see no reason to post the comment on an Allied AAR. It might get some sympathy in a Japanese AAR.

Jorge does not seem to know where you are coming from with that comment either, since he thinks it belongs in IdahoNYer's AAR.

If the comment was intended as sarcasm at the Allies LACK of success, a smiley would have made your drift clearer.

Bottom line is that I am still not sure what you meant with the comment. This may apply to other readers too. Please clarify or let's just discontinue this diversion from the AAR.

EDIT: PS - others have raised concerns about game bloodletting translating to real-life blood lust, which is one of the reasons I was not sure if you were serious or not.
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RE: Mar 24th: Bezwada artillery and submarines

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And Japanese losses by airframe... very happy to see so many carrier planes and LBAs down

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No fighting please. I didn't take it as sympathy for the Japanese side... and lots and lots of losses are the norm in this game (as it was in the war).
I would have preferred to do less but more crippling blows like getting a carrier, but the atttrition will do it long term

Something you learn to do in this game that is very different from most games is that you have big losses, and you just move on, life (and game) goes on
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RE: Mar 24th: Bezwada artillery and submarines

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Not sure what you are expecting the AAR writer to do with that comment Hyacinth. Stop fighting the Japanese?

The idea of the game is to try and inflict casualties on enemy equipment and pixeltruppen. This does NOT mean any hostility toward real-life Japanese people, or a desire to see real people die in huge numbers. It's just a game.

If it makes you feel any better, take a look at the Allied losses in the Philippines, Singapore and Hong Kong.


You are joking right? This is Anglo humor? [X(]
Not joking nor trying to be funny. When someone says something turns their stomach and doesn't put a winking smiley there to show they are kidding, I take them at their word. If that is the case, I see no reason to post the comment on an Allied AAR. It might get some sympathy in a Japanese AAR.

Jorge does not seem to know where you are coming from with that comment either, since he thinks it belongs in IdahoNYer's AAR.

If the comment was intended as sarcasm at the Allies LACK of success, a smiley would have made your drift clearer.

Bottom line is that I am still not sure what you meant with the comment. This may apply to other readers too. Please clarify or let's just discontinue this diversion from the AAR.

EDIT: PS - others have raised concerns about game bloodletting translating to real-life blood lust, which is one of the reasons I was not sure if you were serious or not.

Yes, I was joking with the vomiting smiley. [;)]

Jorge knows where my comment is coming from, he knows what I think of heavy attrition in strategic sense from several PM exchanges.
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Yes, I was joking with the vomiting smiley. [;)]

Jorge knows where my comment is coming from, he knows what I think of heavy attrition in strategic sense from several PM exchanges.

Thanks for clarifying Hyacinth. I was unaware of your understandings with Jorge, and was concerned you might be intending to get into a argument with someone. There have been s**t disturbers on the forum before, who had nothing constructive to say. Sorry for my over-reaction! (we really need a head-slap or Homer "D'oh!" smiley).
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Yes, I was joking with the vomiting smiley. [;)]

Jorge knows where my comment is coming from, he knows what I think of heavy attrition in strategic sense from several PM exchanges.

Thanks for clarifying Hyacinth. I was unaware of your understandings with Jorge, and was concerned you might be intending to get into a argument with someone. There have been s**t disturbers on the forum before, who had nothing constructive to say. Sorry for my over-reaction! (we really need a head-slap or Homer "D'oh!" smiley).

No problem, did not think malicious trolling would be very common here.[:)]
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Mar 25th: Decisions.. decisions

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Turn arrived:

- I lost 9 British bombers on a CAP trap close to Benares... [:(] I ordered escorts... but I guess they had other ideas; commander was not the problem as he is one of the few good ones there.

- Nothing happening on the SW Pacific other than a mild night bombing on P Moresby.

- He invaded by gas station, sorry, I meant my recently captured Tarakan. By now all submarines in the vicinity had refuel, so no big loss.. moreover, he bombed it destroying some oil wells [:D]

- I lost another small xAP on Amchitka... Princess Elaine sunk by I-174 from the same convoy as last turn, and thatAmchitka base force keeps getting smaller and smaller [:(]. I sent a ASW, but second rate: AMs, PCs, etc. I hope they do better next time

- I spotted CVEs near Colombo... [X(] more to come on this later, as I have a risky plan that requires full attention

- Naval bombing of Imperial guards didn't go too well this time; float planes didn't fly and therefore losses were smaller... still Imperial guards got beaten up and it is not going to help a lot in storming Trincomalee

Bombing results:
Night Naval bombardment of Colombo at 29,48

Allied Ships
BB Revenge
CL Enterprise
DD Hotspur
DD Napier
DD Nestor
DD Vendetta
DD Vampire

Japanese ground losses:
217 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

BB Revenge firing at Imperial Guards Division
Walrus II acting as spotter for CL Enterprise
CL Enterprise firing at Imperial Guards Division
DD Hotspur firing at Imperial Guards Division
DD Napier firing at Imperial Guards Division
DD Nestor firing at Imperial Guards Division
DD Vendetta firing at Imperial Guards Division
DD Vampire firing at Imperial Guards Division


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Night Naval bombardment of Colombo at 29,48

Allied Ships
BB Royal Sovereign
CL Emerald
DD Isis
DD Tjerk Hiddes
DD Nizam
DD Pillsbury
DD Stewart
DE Starling

Japanese ground losses:
144 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

BB Royal Sovereign firing at Imperial Guards Division
CL Emerald firing at Imperial Guards Division
DD Isis firing at Imperial Guards Division
DD Tjerk Hiddes firing at Imperial Guards Division
DD Nizam firing at Imperial Guards Division
DD Pillsbury firing at Imperial Guards Division
DD Stewart firing at Imperial Guards Division
DE Starling firing at Imperial Guards Division


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Night Naval bombardment of Colombo at 29,48

Allied Ships
CA Dorsetshire
CL Glasgow
CL Hobart
DD Griffin
DD Fortune
DD Encounter
DD Decoy
DD Norman

Japanese ground losses:
230 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

CA Dorsetshire firing at Imperial Guards Division
CL Glasgow firing at Imperial Guards Division
CL Hobart firing at Imperial Guards Division
DD Griffin firing at 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
DD Fortune firing at Imperial Guards Division
DD Encounter firing at Imperial Guards Division
DD Decoy firing at Imperial Guards Division
DD Norman firing at Imperial Guards Division
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