NotOneStepBack(Heroes) vs. meklore61(Evil Nazis) '43-'45 Campaign

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Don't believe Lt. Evel Notsee, heroes have led the way on Corsica with our flyboys giving lots of potential cover. We've seized the ports and gained control of the seas. Nazi propaganda, bah.
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Aug.'43, Lt. Notsee reporting once again from the front in Corsica.

Our gallant allies retook the port of Calvi! Long live the Fuhrer! and his thousand year Reich! (I know it's seig something I'm supposed to say now). We maintained parity on the seas even as his feeble airmen try to take control from the mighty LW! Our Elite Fliers once again strafed airfields, but alas we were thwarted by the wreckage left over from our last weeks attacks that hardly any ac were destroyed (means we couldn't find any lol).

On the mainland, Sepp Deitrich has arrived to take local command of mobile forces in the area (I didn't say mainland Italy or France tho). He's fresh back from the EF where we will continue to follow his stellar career, where ever that may take him. If nothing else I'm sure Sepp is just glad to be out of that damned box!

Tune in next week to see if the allies found the surprise I left them ;).


Till next week,
Lt. Evel Notsee Out!
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In my game with Pelton, I've lost over 50 something transports, and that was thru all level 9 hexes all the way back to England. Three turns from a high of 250 something to 180 (17 last turn lost). Must be losses from those stealth subs the axis scientist have!

From that picture he has double digit naval interdiction about 8 hexes out from the ports.
Even though the 9s give you control, his interdiction (as high as level 4) and the weather are contributors.

I don't know what transport and cargo losses were like in the Channel in '44, but it wasn't swarming with German level bombers.
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From what I can tell (mainly from Bealfiins AAR) is that somthine is not working with intercepting Naval interdiction. Looks like you can only intercept them over land or something. Once the planes hit the water they seem immune to intercepts.

This happened in my game too. Had 225 P47s on AS over the beachhead. They intercepted and chewed up some of Peltons naval interdiction when it was passing over land. But not a single intercept over water. Very odd. [&:]
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In this game I'm playing axis, had sea control around his beaches in Corsica, and he actually had more transports after Three turns of my having sea control for several hexes around his beaches. This was with the most recent beta patch and initially it seems they are not being attacked at all.
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Joe, the reports of interception combats are not necessarily where they occur but rather a collection of reports in a single hex. It made it easier in the programming I think to combine the interception reports into a single location along the route. Pavel (helpless) could probably describe this better.
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ORIGINAL: carlkay58

Joe, the reports of interception combats are not necessarily where they occur but rather a collection of reports in a single hex. It made it easier in the programming I think to combine the interception reports into a single location along the route. Pavel (helpless) could probably describe this better.

I see. Kind of confusing though. [:)]

Personally I think this needs a tweak regardless. Considering the number of fighters the WAs usually throw up over a beachhead ship losses are extraordinary high. Especially when you consider the small number of Axis bombers that is required to incur tremendous WA losses in shipping and men.

Hopefully this is at least being looked at. [:)]
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I am pretty sure Pavel is all over it, but I will let him go into the details
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ORIGINAL: Baelfiin

I am pretty sure Pavel is all over it, but I will let him go into the details

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Well until he does, HERE'S Lt. Evel Notsee!

Aug. 14, '43, Corsica Fights On!

Our valiant Italian allies have fought on for over a month now, and we still have the port of Ajaccio! The three regiments left have all been awarded the Iron Cross 1st Class! (Italian equivalent), posthumously of course. When FM Kesselring asked for volunteers to hold out till Aug., it was unanimous that they stay and fight the hordes (it was volunteer or be shot now. Helps to motivate volunteerism), and they have gone past their own expiration dates! Long Live The 3rd (or 4th, I lost count) Reich! One item you may not notice right away is the lack of air planes in Corsica. Most of them are sitting on their runways shot to pieces by our Elite Fliers of the LW, along with the ports they just took. No ports means the TF has to stay, to provide supply for the entire island, while it's being damaged some each turn. The islands will become a quagmire with no supply coming in except thru those beaches. There won't be much coming thru the ports after they are all at 100% next turn. FOW says WA lost over 800 planes on the ground this turn between what I did on Corsica and Sardinia. I stopped flying naval around Corsica as I can achieve my goal by bombing it to death. I can't take Corsica, but I can delay him as long as possible, and make him pay for it however I can.

Lt. Notsee was smart this week, and there's talk of promotion to Capt. already. He brought along a camera to take some shots of our glorious defense!

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Aug. 14, '43, Sardinia Lt. Evel Notsee reporting.

The Mighty II Flieger Korps launched wave after wave of bombers against targets in and around Sardinia this week. Ports were smashed, air fields strafed (very well I might add), and naval interdiction put up between Africa and his only active port left (recon didn't see any amphibs so they must be prepping) on Sardinia. I can't keep them, but I can make him pay for it with planes and ships. I did manage to reopen supply to my units on Sardinia again by recapturing the port, but the ports at 100% damage so we flew some in. One more turn and they will be gone, but they held up the advance and slowed supply so that most of the airfields won't be upgraded if at all before he invades again. That's the Evel plan anyway.


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Both islands are secured, and he made me pay. This is the situation last turn. Didn't lose any troop ships however.

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Guess Who! Hauptman. Evel Notsee, reporting from the sunny shores of Italy once again.

I'll get to the most important news this week. I WAS PROMOTED TO Hauptman!

Our gallant allies after their successful withdrawal of Corsica and Sardinia, were welcomed in Rome in high celebration. Their harrowing experiences and daring withdrawal may become a feature Italian film soon. It's going to be called The Fighting Sum'Bitches of Sardinia, and The Next to the Last Conquerors of Corsica!

In the air war their are secret negotiations between FM Kesselring, and Gen. Spaatz. Kesselring has asked that some new planes be put down on Corsica and Sardinia soon, as we hate flying all the way there, only to find out there aren't many planes left to shoot on the runways. Next turn should conclude this agreement one way or the other.

Hauptman Evel Notsee out!
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Both islands are secured, and he made me pay.

Looks like you had to commit about 13 divisions to secure them.
How many weeks did it take from invasion to now?
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7 turns total, including turn 1 re-target.
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Hauptman Notsee reporting from Italy, once again.

FM Kesselring was quoted in a speech today, congratulating the Italian Sardinia Army commander on his brilliant withdrawal from the islands, and costing the allies at least two weeks extra taking them (if your not careful those islands can become a death trap for the allies too). Many great Italian warriors gave their lives to the cause, long my their deeds be sung.

Nothing much else to report this turn as our Elite Fliers were given the week off for a job well done! We are digging our trenches, and fortifying beaches for the inevitable return of the Allied Horde. FM Kesselring is pretty sure he can guess within 5 hexes where they will try to invade our Allies, but it will cost them dearly with their allied lives!

Haupt. Evel Notsee out!

(Side note: If your having trouble with uboats in 43, I would strongly suggest you read the rule and how it is actually calculated, and if your still having trouble, ask NOSB. I've given him exactly -6 Uboat points since the game started, and my last turn was turn 8.)
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Yes, in order to minimize U-boat point losses as allied, I dedicate the entire 8th to u-boat damage. You only have to have >0% damage at a site for it not to be calculated into the VP total. So you want to spread your U-boat bombings out to hit as many as possible each turn and you won't lose any VPs.

8th USAF is for this task of mitigating negative VPs. RAF Bomber is on the task of racking up postive VPs.
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Turn 12: INVASION!

The Allies finally decide to culminate their plan. Operation Crab Rangoon is launched -- the invasion of Southern France near Nice. However there won't be anything nice about it! The previous invasion of east Corsica was merely a diversion in order to throw off the Evil Nazis in believing that Rome was the target! Southern France is still under fighter cover, and the entire invasion site is surrounded by rough terrain -- giving the evil nazis a tough time in reinforcing the area! Only a few hexes of rail go in or out near the site, and Allied reinforcements are coming ashore weekly. The Evil Nazis have no idea what hit them!



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Yes, in order to minimize U-boat point losses as allied, I dedicate the entire 8th to u-boat damage. You only have to have >0% damage at a site for it not to be calculated into the VP total. So you want to spread your U-boat bombings out to hit as many as possible each turn and you won't lose any VPs.

8th USAF is for this task of mitigating negative VPs. RAF Bomber is on the task of racking up postive VPs.


I found you only have to bomb them every 4 turns to keep them from bleeding vp's. The other three I use to bomb Essen. (and surrounding). The positive bombing points are always higher then the negative Uboat ones.
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ORIGINAL: NotOneStepBack

Yes, in order to minimize U-boat point losses as allied, I dedicate the entire 8th to u-boat damage. You only have to have >0% damage at a site for it not to be calculated into the VP total. So you want to spread your U-boat bombings out to hit as many as possible each turn and you won't lose any VPs.

8th USAF is for this task of mitigating negative VPs. RAF Bomber is on the task of racking up postive VPs.

I found you only have to bomb them every 4 turns to keep them from bleeding vp's. The other three I use to bomb Essen. (and surrounding). The positive bombing points are always higher then the negative Uboat ones.

Every 4 turns? [X(] I had to use the 8th continuously and even use BC from time to time. Still lost 2-7 VPs per turn.
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