I bet those 100 kilo SAP bombs on Battleships were very effective, not![:D] Pre beta they could build fires and take down a BB, but with the Beta the best I have seen is disable some gun mounts, etc.
It is really tough to get a good coordinated strike with land based air. No idea where Japan flew from, or about HQa, leaders, etc., but a more coordinated strike could have been nasty or if the sweepers went in first. I really like seeing the sweepers at 25K...
Is that the first appearance of the Frank a?
::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: obvert
[font="Times New Roman"]June 30 - July 1, 1943[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SO PAC: [/font]
He did manage to get a TT into Colorado leaving her out of the next action with 33 float damage. Should be a few months in the Sydney dry dock.
Does this mod give Sydney a larger drydock than stock? At 30K in stock, a Colorado-class BB will not fit the dock and unlike upgrades that just use the dockyard shops and cranes, you need to put the ship in the dock to repair floatation damage. Better start her for PH or a large enough floating dock.
You're so right. Didn't think about this but I do have the giant ARD coming down south soon. I'll have to check as I've completely forgotten to look and see where it is right now.
The ship can move just fine at 14 knots so PH is still is a good option.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
I bet those 100 kilo SAP bombs on Battleships were very effective, not![:D] Pre beta they could build fires and take down a BB, but with the Beta the best I have seen is disable some gun mounts, etc.
It is really tough to get a good coordinated strike with land based air. No idea where Japan flew from, or about HQa, leaders, etc., but a more coordinated strike could have been nasty or if the sweepers went in first. I really like seeing the sweepers at 25K...
Is that the first appearance of the Frank a?
The Frank did some sweeps at Chittagong and did okay there. We have a 25k limit for sweeps in 43. Then 31k for 44. No limit for 45-46. So 25k is it right now, and especially with my Hellcats or Corsairs high, coming lower wouldn't be fun. I was impressed we did so well again the group of 36 Judys and 24 A6M5c after the sweeps and the previous strikes. I thought that many DB flying that fast would break through the remaining 33 plane CAP, especially since the Corsairs were up high and the rest had been beaten up already. Only 1 Judy got an attack run and missed.
Again, our pilot quality may be paying off here as these groups all have a bunch of 60-70exp guys even after removing the top 25% to move into P-47s. These kinds of days will simply add to that advantage, hopefully.
The Lilys had the misfortune to target the BBs rather than some CL or DD, and yes, those were just bouncers. No damage. [8D]
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: obvert
[font="Times New Roman"]June 30 - July 1, 1943[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SO PAC: [/font]
He did manage to get a TT into Colorado leaving her out of the next action with 33 float damage. Should be a few months in the Sydney dry dock.
Does this mod give Sydney a larger drydock than stock? At 30K in stock, a Colorado-class BB will not fit the dock and unlike upgrades that just use the dockyard shops and cranes, you need to put the ship in the dock to repair floatation damage. Better start her for PH or a large enough floating dock.
Yep, sort of makes it a good idea to leave this BB out of the South Pacific until her AA is fully upgraded. Still, I would trade a hit on an old BB for the slaughter of so many attack aircraft. Your flak is getting deadly. I am still in late 42 in my campaign but all my ships just upgraded to 40mm bofors. That has got to help.
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Sigismund of Luxemburg
RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
[font="Times New Roman"]TOTAL LOSSES from bombardments at Chungking: June 07 - 30, 1943
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I've been looking at the CRs for the Chungking bombardments and I'm starting to wonder if they're more deceiving than I'd even thought before. There is definitely FOW here, but as you loo through notice the gun numbers are pretty stable for the Japanese in spite of supposedly large losses. The vehicle numbers fluctuate more, but not close to what is claimed in the CRs.
I'm thinking two things. One, the units attacking are just the arty units and some damage may be going to other units in the hex that I then won't see reflected in the total numbers for each attack. Two, the reports, if they reflect actual numbers at all, seem to show disabled devices as 'present' in the attack regardless of whether they participate or not. So it's tough to determine if he's really taking losses in these bombardments or not.
It's just something to do while Nick is away visiting his father, but makes me think I do need a bit more arty here and I'll only know whether it's effective in counter-bombarding when those bombardments are actually forced to stop!
As shown below (and with a few CRs missing as well) the number of guns lost or disabled according to the CRs during this period exceed the number of guns that are actually here. Of course some could be destroyed/disabled in units not participating in the bombardments, but it seems highly unlikely that ALL guns affected would be from those units, and it's also unlikely a large number would be fixed in an enemy controlled hex quickly enough to continue with daily bombardments if losses were actually this severe.
GUNS destroyed/disabled:
19/178
VEHICLES destroyed/disabled:
43/55
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 07, 43
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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 2484 troops, 177 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Defending force 149737 troops, 726 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3438
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 08, 43
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Attacking force 2470 troops, 176 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
(no losses)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 09, 43
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Attacking force 2470 troops, 176 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 10, 43
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(missing CR)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 11, 43
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Attacking force 2476 troops, 176 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 12, 43
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Attacking force 2476 troops, 177 guns, 151 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (12 destroyed, 2 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 13, 43
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Attacking force 2458 troops, 177 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 28 (1 destroyed, 27 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (3 destroyed, 5 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 14, 43
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Attacking force 2466 troops, 177 guns, 139 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 15, 43
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Attacking force 2466 troops, 177 guns, 139 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (9 destroyed, 2 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 16, 43
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Attacking force 2478 troops, 176 guns, 136 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
(no losses)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 17, 43
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Attacking force 2454 troops, 175 guns, 130 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (2 destroyed, 12 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 18, 43
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Attacking force 2426 troops, 173 guns, 130 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 19, 43
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Attacking force 2410 troops, 176 guns, 135 vehicles, Assault Value = 2144
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (3 destroyed, 3 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 20, 43
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Attacking force 2392 troops, 176 guns, 133 vehicles, Assault Value = 2145
Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 21, 43
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Attacking force 2378 troops, 177 guns, 138 vehicles, Assault Value = 2144
Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 30 (2 destroyed, 28 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 22, 43
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Attacking force 2384 troops, 177 guns, 137 vehicles, Assault Value = 2144
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 12 (2 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 23, 43
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(missing CR)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 24, 43
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Attacking force 2406 troops, 177 guns, 140 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 25, 43
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Attacking force 2414 troops, 177 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 24 (1 destroyed, 23 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 26, 43
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Attacking force 2432 troops, 176 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 27, 43
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Attacking force 2442 troops, 177 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (2 destroyed, 11 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 28, 43
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Attacking force 2444 troops, 176 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 2145
Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (2 destroyed, 3 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 29, 43
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Attacking force 2440 troops, 176 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 7 (5 destroyed, 2 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 30, 43
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Attacking force 2460 troops, 177 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
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I've been looking at the CRs for the Chungking bombardments and I'm starting to wonder if they're more deceiving than I'd even thought before. There is definitely FOW here, but as you loo through notice the gun numbers are pretty stable for the Japanese in spite of supposedly large losses. The vehicle numbers fluctuate more, but not close to what is claimed in the CRs.
I'm thinking two things. One, the units attacking are just the arty units and some damage may be going to other units in the hex that I then won't see reflected in the total numbers for each attack. Two, the reports, if they reflect actual numbers at all, seem to show disabled devices as 'present' in the attack regardless of whether they participate or not. So it's tough to determine if he's really taking losses in these bombardments or not.
It's just something to do while Nick is away visiting his father, but makes me think I do need a bit more arty here and I'll only know whether it's effective in counter-bombarding when those bombardments are actually forced to stop!
As shown below (and with a few CRs missing as well) the number of guns lost or disabled according to the CRs during this period exceed the number of guns that are actually here. Of course some could be destroyed/disabled in units not participating in the bombardments, but it seems highly unlikely that ALL guns affected would be from those units, and it's also unlikely a large number would be fixed in an enemy controlled hex quickly enough to continue with daily bombardments if losses were actually this severe.
GUNS destroyed/disabled:
19/178
VEHICLES destroyed/disabled:
43/55
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 07, 43
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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 2484 troops, 177 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Defending force 149737 troops, 726 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3438
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 08, 43
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Attacking force 2470 troops, 176 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
(no losses)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 09, 43
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Attacking force 2470 troops, 176 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 10, 43
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(missing CR)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 11, 43
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Attacking force 2476 troops, 176 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 12, 43
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Attacking force 2476 troops, 177 guns, 151 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (12 destroyed, 2 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 13, 43
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Attacking force 2458 troops, 177 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 28 (1 destroyed, 27 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (3 destroyed, 5 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 14, 43
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Attacking force 2466 troops, 177 guns, 139 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 15, 43
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Attacking force 2466 troops, 177 guns, 139 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (9 destroyed, 2 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 16, 43
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Attacking force 2478 troops, 176 guns, 136 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
(no losses)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 17, 43
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Attacking force 2454 troops, 175 guns, 130 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (2 destroyed, 12 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 18, 43
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Attacking force 2426 troops, 173 guns, 130 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 19, 43
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Attacking force 2410 troops, 176 guns, 135 vehicles, Assault Value = 2144
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (3 destroyed, 3 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 20, 43
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Attacking force 2392 troops, 176 guns, 133 vehicles, Assault Value = 2145
Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 21, 43
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Attacking force 2378 troops, 177 guns, 138 vehicles, Assault Value = 2144
Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 30 (2 destroyed, 28 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 22, 43
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Attacking force 2384 troops, 177 guns, 137 vehicles, Assault Value = 2144
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 12 (2 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 23, 43
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(missing CR)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 24, 43
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Attacking force 2406 troops, 177 guns, 140 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 25, 43
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Attacking force 2414 troops, 177 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 24 (1 destroyed, 23 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 26, 43
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Attacking force 2432 troops, 176 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 27, 43
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Attacking force 2442 troops, 177 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (2 destroyed, 11 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 28, 43
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Attacking force 2444 troops, 176 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 2145
Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (2 destroyed, 3 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 29, 43
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Attacking force 2440 troops, 176 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 2147
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 7 (5 destroyed, 2 disabled)
[font="Trebuchet MS"]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 30, 43
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Attacking force 2460 troops, 177 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 2146
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
[font="Times New Roman"]June 2, 1943[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] Lots of midgets at Buin. As our forces enter at least three are sunk and the I-170 is hit 9 times over two separate interactions.
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SO PAC: [/font] The invasion of Buin is on ... or wait, uh, no it's not. Well it's sort of on. Everything made it to the hex, three SCTFs including one of fast BBs, several minesweeping and ASW TFs, the large amphib TF with BB Maryland, a CA and a bunch of valuable APA as well as some PTs and two fleet subs. The problem is that I didn't set the troops to unload. Crap. [:(]
So Nick's strikes went in and we did a decent job of protecting the skies even though he had CAP in the base and support from Torokina. Our high CAP of Lightnings and Hellcats did really well throughout the day, but some strikes still got through. Luckily the hits were almost all on BBs. We got lucky on the one critical hit on an APA with a 500kg bomb. The troops are fine on the ship (1 disabled squad) and the ship has 14 system and 4 minor flat damage. A near miss.
Maryland took the brunt of the strikes with 5 x 500kg hits from the Judys for only 14 system, 4(1) float and 4 engine damage. Amazing.
A few other bouncers from the Lilys damaged the signal flags on the two fast BBs. [:D]
I contemplated this one a bit, knowing he has strong surface forces six hexes away at Rabaul, and decided ... to stay and land the troops. Nick's email note basically says it al about what I might be facing tomorrow.
[font="Trebuchet MS"]big boys are those you brought with you at Buin eh!?
Pretty risky not to unload your men this turn... the night is dark and full of terrors as you know [/font]
Get out the popcorn, this could be a big one, and might not go well for the Allies, but I've taken every precaution to make sure we have a fighting chance here. Another 3 CA TF is flanking in from Milne Bay, the two PT TFs are moving to Torokina to hopefully head off any rush in, another set of PTs will move to Buin, 4-5 subs are transiting the approaches to the area, and a number of fresh air groups are added both to the CAP and to a strike meant to draw defenders away. Also, some Beauforts and SBD will be set to pick off any remnants although no escorts are available, as all fighters are set to sweep or to LR CAP. I'll be striking Torokina with 45 4Es and Spit Vc sweeps, and the LR CAP over Buin will be twice as strong as the previous day.
He could run some CVs in, but if they're at Truk that would still be a flank run and some at least might not get in range since the Junyo/Hiyo are only 25 knots. They're air groups also took a bit of a spanking in Cent Pac recently, so might not be as fresh as they could be since the Judy has a service 3.
It'll be interesting! Fingers crossed.
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CENT PAC: [/font] The Wotje invasion will also land tomorrow, with two CVE supporting and a three BB TF bombarding in addition to the embedded BB/CA. The old CL TF will provide surface support. The TFs only had a 4/4 yesterday, so not sure what he'll make of what's out here. Roi Namur looks about closed now after the naval bombardments and 4E strikes, which is good. No other base in range is over size 1.
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] Word back from Michaelm in the tech thread is that the blue line means BOTH sides own the hex side, in this case meaning neither can use it. He may have another look at an earlier turn file but has also offered to fix it in a current one if we send it to him, which I'll do tonight hopefully. [&o]
The P-47s are in Chungking. Hellcats move out.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 2, 43
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Submarine attack near Buin at 109,131
Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-43, hits 14, and is sunk
Allied Ships
CL Nashville
DD Waller
DD Balch
DD McCall
SSX Ha-43 is sighted by escort
DD Balch fails to find sub and abandons search
DD McCall attacking submerged sub ....
SSX Ha-43 forced to surface!
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Morning Air attack on Buin , at 109,131
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 44
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 42
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18
FM-1 Wildcat x 12
F4U-1 Corsair x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 10 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 3 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 9 destroyed
FM-1 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M5c Zero (44 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(44 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
44 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
64th Sentai with Ki-43-IIIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(42 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 42 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Buin at 109,131
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 36
D4Y1 Judy x 40
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 27
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 21
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 16
P-39D Airacobra x 10
F4F-4 Wildcat x 33
F6F-3 Hellcat x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 7 destroyed
D4Y1 Judy: 1 destroyed, 15 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 2 destroyed by flak
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 7 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 5, on fire
CL Columbia
DD King
DD Gilmer
DD Brooks
APA President Hayes, Bomb hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
17 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
6 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 10000 feet
6 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
CAP engaged:
VF-60 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes
VRF-1F with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
VRF-2F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 13 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
VRF-5F with F4F-4 Wildcat (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
16 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
VMF-223 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
8th FG/36th FS with P-39D Airacobra (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 9000.
Raid is overhead
8th FG/80th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 12 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 1000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
475th FG/432nd FS with P-38G Lightning (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 25000.
Raid is overhead
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BB Maryland
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Buin at 109,131
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 9
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 21
Ki-48-IIb Lily x 25
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 15
P-39D Airacobra x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 27
F6F-3 Hellcat x 5
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 4 destroyed
Ki-48-IIb Lily: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-48-IIb Lily: 9 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 3 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 6 destroyed
Allied Ships
BB Indiana
BB Massachusetts, Bomb hits 2
CL Denver
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-48-IIb Lily releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb
6 x Ki-48-IIb Lily releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb
5 x Ki-48-IIb Lily releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb
4 x Ki-48-IIb Lily releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb
3 x Ki-48-IIb Lily releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Buin at 109,131
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 13
D4Y1 Judy x 26
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 13
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 9
P-39D Airacobra x 7
F4F-4 Wildcat x 28
FM-1 Wildcat x 2
F6F-3 Hellcat x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 8 destroyed
D4Y1 Judy: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
CL Denver
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
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[font="Trebuchet MS"]Another decent day in the air, but this won't matter if those Judy that do get through cause havoc in the next turn.
Amazing number of Lilys shot down by flak from the fast BB TF! [X(][/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] Lots of midgets at Buin. As our forces enter at least three are sunk and the I-170 is hit 9 times over two separate interactions.
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SO PAC: [/font] The invasion of Buin is on ... or wait, uh, no it's not. Well it's sort of on. Everything made it to the hex, three SCTFs including one of fast BBs, several minesweeping and ASW TFs, the large amphib TF with BB Maryland, a CA and a bunch of valuable APA as well as some PTs and two fleet subs. The problem is that I didn't set the troops to unload. Crap. [:(]
So Nick's strikes went in and we did a decent job of protecting the skies even though he had CAP in the base and support from Torokina. Our high CAP of Lightnings and Hellcats did really well throughout the day, but some strikes still got through. Luckily the hits were almost all on BBs. We got lucky on the one critical hit on an APA with a 500kg bomb. The troops are fine on the ship (1 disabled squad) and the ship has 14 system and 4 minor flat damage. A near miss.
Maryland took the brunt of the strikes with 5 x 500kg hits from the Judys for only 14 system, 4(1) float and 4 engine damage. Amazing.
A few other bouncers from the Lilys damaged the signal flags on the two fast BBs. [:D]
I contemplated this one a bit, knowing he has strong surface forces six hexes away at Rabaul, and decided ... to stay and land the troops. Nick's email note basically says it al about what I might be facing tomorrow.
[font="Trebuchet MS"]big boys are those you brought with you at Buin eh!?
Pretty risky not to unload your men this turn... the night is dark and full of terrors as you know [/font]Get out the popcorn, this could be a big one, and might not go well for the Allies, but I've taken every precaution to make sure we have a fighting chance here. Another 3 CA TF is flanking in from Milne Bay, the two PT TFs are moving to Torokina to hopefully head off any rush in, another set of PTs will move to Buin, 4-5 subs are transiting the approaches to the area, and a number of fresh air groups are added both to the CAP and to a strike meant to draw defenders away. Also, some Beauforts and SBD will be set to pick off any remnants although no escorts are available, as all fighters are set to sweep or to LR CAP. I'll be striking Torokina with 45 4Es and Spit Vc sweeps, and the LR CAP over Buin will be twice as strong as the previous day.
He could run some CVs in, but if they're at Truk that would still be a flank run and some at least might not get in range since the Junyo/Hiyo are only 25 knots. They're air groups also took a bit of a spanking in Cent Pac recently, so might not be as fresh as they could be since the Judy has a service 3.
It'll be interesting! Fingers crossed.
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CENT PAC: [/font] The Wotje invasion will also land tomorrow, with two CVE supporting and a three BB TF bombarding in addition to the embedded BB/CA. The old CL TF will provide surface support. The TFs only had a 4/4 yesterday, so not sure what he'll make of what's out here. Roi Namur looks about closed now after the naval bombardments and 4E strikes, which is good. No other base in range is over size 1.
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] Word back from Michaelm in the tech thread is that the blue line means BOTH sides own the hex side, in this case meaning neither can use it. He may have another look at an earlier turn file but has also offered to fix it in a current one if we send it to him, which I'll do tonight hopefully. [&o]
The P-47s are in Chungking. Hellcats move out.
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Submarine attack near Buin at 109,131
Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-43, hits 14, and is sunk
Allied Ships
CL Nashville
DD Waller
DD Balch
DD McCall
SSX Ha-43 is sighted by escort
DD Balch fails to find sub and abandons search
DD McCall attacking submerged sub ....
SSX Ha-43 forced to surface!
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Morning Air attack on Buin , at 109,131
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 44
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 42
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18
FM-1 Wildcat x 12
F4U-1 Corsair x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 10 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 3 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 9 destroyed
FM-1 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M5c Zero (44 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(44 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
44 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
64th Sentai with Ki-43-IIIa Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(42 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 42 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Buin at 109,131
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 36
D4Y1 Judy x 40
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 27
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 21
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 16
P-39D Airacobra x 10
F4F-4 Wildcat x 33
F6F-3 Hellcat x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 7 destroyed
D4Y1 Judy: 1 destroyed, 15 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 2 destroyed by flak
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 7 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 5, on fire
CL Columbia
DD King
DD Gilmer
DD Brooks
APA President Hayes, Bomb hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
17 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
6 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 10000 feet
6 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
CAP engaged:
VF-60 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes
VRF-1F with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
VRF-2F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 13 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
VRF-5F with F4F-4 Wildcat (16 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
16 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
VMF-223 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
8th FG/36th FS with P-39D Airacobra (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 9000.
Raid is overhead
8th FG/80th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 12 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 1000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
475th FG/432nd FS with P-38G Lightning (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 25000.
Raid is overhead
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BB Maryland
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Buin at 109,131
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 9
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 21
Ki-48-IIb Lily x 25
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 15
P-39D Airacobra x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 27
F6F-3 Hellcat x 5
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 4 destroyed
Ki-48-IIb Lily: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-48-IIb Lily: 9 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 3 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 6 destroyed
Allied Ships
BB Indiana
BB Massachusetts, Bomb hits 2
CL Denver
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-48-IIb Lily releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb
6 x Ki-48-IIb Lily releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb
5 x Ki-48-IIb Lily releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb
4 x Ki-48-IIb Lily releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb
3 x Ki-48-IIb Lily releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 100 kg SAP Bomb
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Buin at 109,131
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 13
D4Y1 Judy x 26
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 13
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 9
P-39D Airacobra x 7
F4F-4 Wildcat x 28
FM-1 Wildcat x 2
F6F-3 Hellcat x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 8 destroyed
D4Y1 Judy: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
CL Denver
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
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[font="Trebuchet MS"]Another decent day in the air, but this won't matter if those Judy that do get through cause havoc in the next turn.
Amazing number of Lilys shot down by flak from the fast BB TF! [X(][/font]
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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
Use that to your advantage; in your next email tell him that you fooled him good by making him think that you were invading there, but you're not. Then invade anyway the following turn!The problem is that I didn't set the troops to unload. Crap.
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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
ORIGINAL: witpqs
Use that to your advantage; in your next email tell him that you fooled him good by making him think that you were invading there, but you're not. Then invade anyway the following turn!The problem is that I didn't set the troops to unload. Crap.
Well, too late, but yes, something like that.
Basically by the time he sent the email he had set his moves for that turn. Since I would be setting mine next and deciding on unloading, I still got the info that he assumed I was unloading there rather than going on to Torokina (which is what I assumed he would think). If he had thought I was heading to Torokina then I would imagine he'd definitely send surface forces as it's closer to Rabaul and a stronger better defended base.
As it is I interpreted his email as a psychological test. He infers there will be dangers in the night. I know those are not likely to include Hyuga, as that ship was torpedoed, and that he'd have to move through a PT infested Torokina into a hex with three surface combat TFs set to react 1 hex, which all have good leaders and all major ammo left. I've got a lot of night search going, so any arriving ships will likely be spotted, and the subs may have a chance to do something too. He may just be using the email to discourage me from sticking in and unloading. We'll see!
I know his air forces have suffered the past few turns, where mine are actually remarkably fresh, with fatigue below 20 in virtually all groups and new groups added in as well. The Amphibs should also unload at least half of the troops before he even makes it to the hex, and more should unload before daylight, probably 80% if not all. I don't want to lose a lot here, but due to low moonlight I think our radar equipped ships, PTs and subs should have an advantage.
Nick is aggressive so we may see a big bust up here. We're as ready as possible.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
Here is the scene. Lots of possibilities. Can't wait to see what he's decided to do!
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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
This is exciting and what makes the game so great![:D]
RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
Here are shots of the Maryland and APA that took 500kg hits. The Maryland absorbed 5 and still is highly operational, minus a few guns and a bit of radar. Got a bit lucky I think. [&o][:)]
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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
Maryland can probably stay in theater for repair but I don't know if I want to get in a surface fight without radar. Just make sure she is not the flagship of anything. As for hanging around? Not sure if I would do that because you are probably going to get a shot at his response either way but who knows? Looks like it's going to be an interesting couple of day. What kind of ship striking aircraft do you have around? Heading out for some Vietnamese food for lunch but then I am back in front of my screen.
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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
Some of Maryland's 5" guns were knocked out. I think a SY is needed to repair those devices. That means PH or Brisbane at least.ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth
Maryland can probably stay in theater for repair but I don't know if I want to get in a surface fight without radar. Just make sure she is not the flagship of anything. As for hanging around? Not sure if I would do that because you are probably going to get a shot at his response either way but who knows? Looks like it's going to be an interesting couple of day. What kind of ship striking aircraft do you have around? Heading out for some Vietnamese food for lunch but then I am back in front of my screen.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Some of Maryland's 5" guns were knocked out. I think a SY is needed to repair those devices. That means PH or Brisbane at least.ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth
Maryland can probably stay in theater for repair but I don't know if I want to get in a surface fight without radar. Just make sure she is not the flagship of anything. As for hanging around? Not sure if I would do that because you are probably going to get a shot at his response either way but who knows? Looks like it's going to be an interesting couple of day. What kind of ship striking aircraft do you have around? Heading out for some Vietnamese food for lunch but then I am back in front of my screen.
Actually, their effect values are 50 for the 5"/50 and 54 for the 5"/25 DP gun. You only need a port big enough to repair that effect value. I know that Townsville at size 7 repaired a radar for me recently, which is an effect value of 90, so a size 7 can definitely handle repairing those guns without a shipyard. So Noumea can do it for sure. Luganville might be able to do it at Size 6. I can't find the damn table that lists what effect values can be repaired at what ports, or if Naval Support helps.
RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
Thanks guys. I'm going to have start really paying attention to port size, naval support and ARD/repair yard sizes as I've no experience with SWPac/SoPac repair options. We're just potentially about to have the first BB tangle-up, so I'll probably be needing more than I think.
For cruisers it's been easy, and there have been a steady stream heading to Sydney. Now come the tougher decisions and logistics.
Nick sent the turn and from his response I feel we may have at least averted disaster, but I'll be running it right now!
For cruisers it's been easy, and there have been a steady stream heading to Sydney. Now come the tougher decisions and logistics.
Nick sent the turn and from his response I feel we may have at least averted disaster, but I'll be running it right now!
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
So, this was it! The troops land and Nick decides not to challenge, this time.
The entire 32nd US division landed at Buin and is in good shape, the amphibs retire and unless subs get in the way we should make it back to safety.
Sorry no action, but I'm pretty relieved here. More soon.
The entire 32nd US division landed at Buin and is in good shape, the amphibs retire and unless subs get in the way we should make it back to safety.
Sorry no action, but I'm pretty relieved here. More soon.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
Ha, Ha.[:D] This happens so many times, you expect the worst and your fears are for naught for one reason or another the turn is anti-climatic. And then out of the blue, you get a turn where lightning strikes. Go figure, it might drive some people to drink.
RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Ha, Ha.[:D] This happens so many times, you expect the worst and your fears are for naught for one reason or another the turn is anti-climatic. And then out of the blue, you get a turn where lightning strikes. Go figure, it might drive some people to drink.
Well, I'm having a scotch, but that is a celebration! This has been a long time coming, and once Buin is in Allied hands the rest of the islands up toward Rabaul should be easy pickings. All units are prepped and ready and air support units are already moving forward.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill