The Clash Of Titans II

[DeltaIV]

Here goes another CVBG vs CVBG battle. This time, both opposing sides are on similar technological level (that means, more fun).

Indian Navy vs. French Navy

Date/Time: 4th March, 2018 / 07:00:00 Zulu
Location: Arabian Sea
Playable Sides: Indian Navy

Background

India started year 2018 with intensive naval activity in both Indian Ocean and Arabian sea. The brief Indian incursion into littoral waters of French island Reunion was condemned by French diplomacy. Further diplomatic tension eventually resulted in two-sided embargo between France and India. Week ago, the French CVBG led by Charles De Gaulle CV left Toulon naval base and headed to Suez. INS Vikramaditya with it's escorts was ordered to head towards the Gulf Of Aden. Politics will continue by other means from now on.

This is fictional ASW / ASuW / AAW scenario with a duration of three days.

Comments, results, bug reports, etc. are as always welcome!

EDIT: Version 2 is up

Changes:
- EMCON settings
- Mission parameters for AI
- AI Doctrine

EDIT: Version 3 is up
- More AI tweaks


EDIT: Version 4 [most likely final] is up
- Rebuilt with latest DB to fix Mirages
- AI mission/doctrine/ROE tweaks (AI is rather mean now [;)])

[ojms]

Looks good! Although one issue I noticed straight away is that the Indian's have radar and sonar active in the ECMON settings. Would it make more sense to have them as passive?

[ojms]

Hi,

It seems sort of a bit easy so far, the french rafales don't seem to engage the mig-29's unless they are very close.

Also I launched a missile strike on the french task group and they didn't launch any sams, I went back to the auto saves and switched sides to see this message repeated every second:

"10:08:39 - D621 Chevalier Paul is dropping GuidedWeapon #93 from its target list (Reason: The target is outside the unit's patrol area, and the unit is not authorize to prosecute outside the area)."

[DeltaIV]

Thank you ojms! These issues are now fixed.

[AlexGGGG]

Score 3000 Triumph

SIDE: Indian Navy
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LOSSES:
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5x MiG-29K Fulcrum D
1x S 71 Chakra II [PLA-971M Akula II]


EXPENDITURES:
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196x RGB-75 [Basic Search, Passive Omni]
6x A.244S
1x APR-2 Orlan-M
43x AA-12 Adder A [R-77, RVV-AE]
11x AA-11 Archer [R-73]
14x 30mm Gsh-30-1 Burst [30 rnds]
7x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
2x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
24x AS-20 Kayak [Kh-35U]
1x SS-N-15 Starfish [RPK-6 Vodopad, UMGT-1 Torpedo]
24x AS-17 Krypton A [Kh-31A, ASM]
2x SA-N-8 Gremlin [9M36]
24x USET-80K
3x MG-114 Berilly
6x Generic Acoustic Decoy
16x PJ-10 Brahmos



SIDE: French Navy
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LOSSES:
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34x Rafale M
2x E-2C Hawkeye 2000
1x S 601 Rubis
1x F 710 La Fayette
3x NH90 NFH
2x Lynx HAS.4(FN)
1x D 614 Cassard [Type F70 AA]
1x D 650 Aquitaine [FREMM ASW]
1x D 620 Forbin [Horizon]
1x SA.532SC Cougar
1x SA.365F1 Dauphin 2
1x R 91 Charles De Gaulle
1x D 640 Georges Leygues [Type F70]


EXPENDITURES:
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100x TSM 8050B Active RO
28x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges]
9x Generic Flare Salvo [4x Cartridges, Dual Spectral]
10x MICA EM
2x MICA IR
11x 30mm Giat 30/M791B Burst [25 rnds]
32x Aster 30 PAAMS [GWS.45 Sea Viper]
64x Aster 15 PAAMS [GWS.45 Sea Viper]
2x CONTRALTO-S [SLAT]
2x Generic Acoustic Decoy
24x TSM 8050A Active RO
8x DAGAIE Mk2 LEM Chaff
1x RIM-66E SM-1MR Blk VI
18x SAGAIE LEM Chaff
1x MM.40 Exocet Blk III
4x MU-90 Impact
8x CONTRALTO-V [SLAT]
10x Mistral 1
7x 76mm/62 Super Rapido HE Burst [2 rnds]
2x R.440N Crotale V3N
7x SEALEM Chaff
3x 100mm/55 Model 1968 PFHE Burst [4 rnds]



SIDE: Nature
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LOSSES:
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1x False Contact (Large)
3x False Contact (Small)


SIDE: Civilian traffic
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nothing

[AlexGGGG]

Quick, simple, straightforward, and fun.

I made good use of the sub. However, I sort of cheated - when I knew there was a helo just overhead the sub, because it just dropped a buoy directly on top of my sub, I surfaced the sub, shot down the helo and dived back. Did this twice I recall. In Command, the sub can actually fire off SAM or two and dive before first Exocet arrives. The sub was eventually sunk but not until it expended all the torpedoes, sinking two ships and probably damaging one more. The hit rate was crap because the sub got hit eventually, and had like 10% life remaining in it, and I ended up firing at kinematic ranges.

Also Rafaels probably have RoE to TIGHT and did not attack me fast enough. If they were set to weapons free (engage unknown side contacts), that would be more problematic, I'd say much more.

[DeltaIV]

Rafaels have been fixed several times now and should perform better [:D]

Well, that's indeed quite gamey tactics regarding the sub-launched SAMs.

[AlexGGGG]

I used the latest version of the scenario, as in "downloaded three hours ago" latest. Still looks like there is a problem of balancing AI vs. human player. I am supposed to confirm the target is hostile before firing. So is AI. That looks equal, but I declare aircraft hostile by the fact they have FCRs active. Reasoning that there are no neutral air forces I'm aware of, airliners don't have fire control radars, therefore any unit other than my own which has FCR active must be hostile. So I shoot first. Rafales still have to close in to confirm me as enemy. So if French side is not supposed to be playable, and there are no civilian air traffic, it would be more effective (and probably more realistic) to tune them more aggressive.

[squeezer]

I just started to play this scenario and I too experienced peace-loving Rafales which don't want to fight back. I checked in the editor and it seems like, for some reason, their OODA loop is very long (i.e ~650 seconds). Not sure if this is bug or by design, but it seems weird. I can't post links yet but please do check how it works in your case.

[DeltaIV]

Thank you guys, it seems that it's issue only with Rafale M and I've posted the issue in bug forum.

[DeltaIV]

Rebuilt, fixed, tested (and i think finished). Mirages are doing quite good job against MIGs now and scenario became quite hard [;)]

[AlexGGGG]

Whoa this one is tough. Still straightforward, but I ended up using SAMs against the last enemy ship. Triumph 2550. By the time I finished, I was out of Kryptons, missing 7 MiGs, and missing five or so helos which I spent as Rafalebait. Also because I did not have air domination, enemy sank my sub early. I will probably have to try this another time for a different strategy

[AlexGGGG]

Figured it; destroyed everything except a sub for a loss of three Fulcrums. Score 3050

[DeltaIV]

Thanks, it seems that everything works like it should, then.