Shearing the Sheep! - JocMeister(WA) vs. Meklore61(Ax)

[JocMeister]

Got the air done but havn´t ran it yet. Hopefully an update tomorrow with air + ground. [:)]

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Got the air done but havn´t ran it yet. Hopefully an update tomorrow with air + ground. [:)]

Your a winner WitP, but with WitE and WitW think out side the box.

Your moves are really to basic and easy to counter.

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: Pelton
Your a winner WitP, but with WitE and WitW think out side the box.

Your moves are really to basic and easy to counter.

Didn´t know there was a counter for an Allied Sicily landing...

Reason is very simple. I Can only invade in the Med in 43 and whatever I do I need the air bases on Sicily. So I take Sicily. Of course its basic but I´m not going to land directly in France or Italy flying Naval and AS from Africa.

[JocMeister]

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[font="Verdana"]Turn 1.[/font]
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Northern Europe
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Going by the advice I got from N.O.S.B I think I did fairly good. We will know next turn when the negative U-Boat VPs start coming in. We hit all the big U-boat factories using both the 8th and Bomber Command.

Couldn´t get much recon up but results look good. Losses were even lighter then expected. I sent the 9th to sweep the Ruhr but I took pretty bad losses. Need more numbers for this to work. 9th were set to rest for now.

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The Med
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Standard opening. The 3 US and one of the British land as usual. Don´t know if Meklore will try and do something here. Probably not yet. Many of the AFs are closed since most of Tactical was set to bomb them. The ports by the Messina straits are both wrecked as are the ones on Sardinia.

[NotOneStepBack]

If you run your air losses 2-1 or lower vs. Axis they can't sustain it. In my game against Meklore, I invaded like you did at Sicily and Sardinia on T2, and then I landed with 5 TFs at Salerno with 2 airborne dvis with the 5th US and the 8th BR to follow up. 7th US came up through Reggio. He pulled back north and gave me S italy and Naples without a fight...worth considering.

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: NotOneStepBack

If you run your air losses 2-1 or lower vs. Axis they can't sustain it. In my game against Meklore, I invaded like you did at Sicily and Sardinia on T2, and then I landed with 5 TFs at Salerno with 2 airborne dvis with the 5th US and the 8th BR to follow up. 7th US came up through Reggio. He pulled back north and gave me S italy and Naples without a fight...worth considering.

Yeah, I´m definitively looking into doing something like that. [:)]

[JocMeister]

Haha, woke and saw this: "Meklore's AAR, That Joc Can't Read!" [:D]

He has been dying from curiosity since I told him he wasn´t allowed in my AAR and I suggested he started his own...I guess he did. Knowing Meklore its probably just a picture of a bunny in there or something! [:D]

[Lowpe]

At least it isn't titled anything Sheep! No temptation to accidentally click into it.[:D]

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

At least it isn't titled anything Sheep! No temptation to accidentally click into it.[:D]

Hah! Yeah...I was actually in Eriks AAR a couple of times by accident! Luckily (or sadly? [;)]) I never learned something uselful. [:D]

[JocMeister]

Didn´t have time to update T2 which I sent to Meklore this morning. I´ll try and get it up tonight.

[JocMeister]

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[font="Verdana"]Turn 2.[/font]
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Northern Europe
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Lost -2 from U-boats but I missed a big factory. Had it targeted but no strikes flew. Hope that will be remedies by T3. [:)] Lots of big HI factories targeted for next turn.

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The Med.
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We go for Sardinia with XIII British Corps. I don´t expect resistance (this will turn out to be a mistake) and put up only a medium sized naval interdiction using only Coastal Command.

[JocMeister]

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[font="Verdana"]Turn 3.[/font]
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Now this was an interesting turn! [:)]

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Northern Europe
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Rain over most of Europe. I´m also forced to up my altitude for the 8th to 27k as they suffer badly morale wise. Can´t say I blame them. But at least this turn we got some escorts for them! Results are so-so as about half the 8th is grounded with low morale, rain and higher altitude. Most of them will probably be back next turn. But I expect I will have to hit the U-boats again next turn.

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The Med
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Here is where the fun was happening. [:)] Meklore hits my Sardinia invasion quite badly. He racks up 8 and 9 in interdiction all around the beaches. Luckily I "only" lose 26 troop ships. Supply is okay-ish on the beaches but the TFs at sea suffer pretty badly from lack of supply and ammo.

I sort my mistakes up and get better interdiction up. Land the reinforcement and fly in supply. We even manage to expand the beachhead a bit.

Oh, and we repay the kindness to the Luftwaffe by torching them on the ground. 508 Axis planes lost and among them a good chunk of the LW [:'(]

[JocMeister]

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[font="Verdana"]Turn 3. (Cont.)[/font]
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Even more fun on Sicily. Expected Meklore to pull back but instead he lashed out with good result. Amazingly a broken down Italian ID managed to dislodge the Moroccan Mnt. Rgt and I lose a temp. port. [X(]

Meklore has hurled the Italians AND parts of the Wehrmacht at the beaches. Was not ready for this. I think I got the situation under control for now but I might be in for some trouble if I´m unlucky. II CA Corps will land next turn to reinforce and stabilize the situation. With most of the RA and LW blasted on Sardinia I should be able to focus on the Axis ground troops next turn.

Very aggressive from Meklore. Need to be more careful. Fun though. [:)]

[loki100]

interesting to see someone not accepting the usual logic of abandoning Sicily/Sardinia. In the longer term prob to your gain but its good (for meklore) if he disrupts your timetable

[Seminole]

I sort my mistakes up and get better interdiction up. Land the reinforcement and fly in supply. We even manage to expand the beachhead a bit.

I think you've already seized the most important piece of land to make your breakout from that beachhead.
"I always make it a rule to get there first with the most men"

interesting to see someone not accepting the usual logic of abandoning Sicily/Sardinia. In the longer term prob to your gain but its good (for meklore) if he disrupts your timetable

I just want to see how the level of commitment plays out on each side with the WA tackling two fronts immediately. Germans I think still have a shot to make Sardinia a slog.

[NotOneStepBack]

If you're going to hit Sardinia, it's better to just land at Cagliari. He can't oppose it on T2, and you get a big port to supply from.

[JocMeister]

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[font="Verdana"]Turn 4.[/font]
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More interesting events!

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Northern Europe
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Weather clears and the BC and 8th take off again. +7 VPs from bombing last turn. But since I had to up the altitude for the 8th damage is dropping. I´ll try lower it next turn when morale has recovered.

P47s from the 9th keep sweeping over the Ruhr but losses are pretty horrendous with about 60-80 P47s lost per week. [X(] Can´t keep this up much longer.

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The Med
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Again the Luftwaffe show up doing interdiction around the Sardinia beachhead. Only 6s and 7s this time though. 6 Troop ships and 22 Cargo lost. This cost him pretty badly though with 406 plane lost during the Axis turn. Since most airfields on Sardinia are closed I realize he must be flying from Corsica and I hit the Jackpot. Another 570 LW planes are torched on the ground making it almost 1000 planes lost during the turn. This most be impossible for him to sustain?

[JocMeister]

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[font="Verdana"]Turn 4. (Cont.)[/font]
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On Sardinia we solidify our hold and expand a little bit. Meklore airlifted in a Parachute RGT. Not sure why yet? I did manage to get the US Corp HQ on shore which will add a lot of firepower to the US troops.

More troops will land next turn including more armor.

[JocMeister]

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[font="Verdana"]Turn 4. (Cont.)[/font]
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On Sicily Meklore is aggressive on the point of crazy? I don´t understand what he is doing. Anyone have an idea? Not only has he thrown himself against the beaches but he has now reinforced with two fresh PzG divisions! [X(]

He even drove a PzG regiment down to the southern beaches of Sicily. Unless I´m mistaken that will cost him 2/3rds of the 25th PzG though... II Canadian Corps has now landed and with the added armor things looks to be in control.

Normally I would be pretty happy with the situation. There is no better place on the map to fight the Luftwaffe and Wehrmacht then in the Med in 43. But a part of me wonders what he is up to...

[LiquidSky]

Sometimes people forget that they are actually playing somebody else, and not an AI. It's easy to get complacent and not treat the German army with some level of respect.

There is no doubt that you will still take Sicily, but he is trying to set a tone for the game. Make you think twice about launching an operation. He will not go quietly.