SP3: Moderna??

DavidW75 · Post by **DavidW75** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 12:01 pm

Anybody out there know where to find sp3:moderna. Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers,

David

Ross Moorhouse · Post by **Ross Moorhouse** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 12:09 pm

I think its at www.wargamer.com

{EDIT} Sorry its not there.. But this is http://www.wargamer.com/archive/targeted.asp?GameName=Steel Panthers: Main Battle Tank

Les_the_Sarge_9_1 · Post by **Les_the_Sarge_9_1** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 9:59 pm

I hope I am not intruding guys.

SP3 Moderna? I guess that would be the updated Steel Panthers 3 Brigade Combat (Steel Panthers 3 Brigade Combat was the original version released) I don't possess Moderna myself though.

Steel Panthers MBT (often just called SPMBT) that is available over at Wargamer (I have SPMBT by the way), is the updated version of Steel Panthers 2 Modern Battles (which I also own).

SPMBT as well as the original version Steel Panthers 2 Modern battles, was the same scale of action as the very first Steel Panthers ie just plain Steel Panthers no version or modification. SPMBT (as well as the original) differs in that it is post WW2 while the original was only WW2.

Steel Panthers 3 Brigade Combat though was an echelon up ie it is Platoon level not individual vehicle level. Moderna therfore is a modified Platoon level game I am thinking.

It is interesting of course, that Matrix used the Steel Panthers 3 Brigade Combat software, to produce Steel Panthers World at War which is the same scale of action of the first game (and not Platoon level).

As such, the SPMBT scenarios I suspect will not do a person looking for Moderna material any good (I would assume).

I hope this has been helpful.

Ross Moorhouse · Post by **Ross Moorhouse** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 2:12 am

Yes I think Moderna may have been canned and MBT was done instead.

troopie · Post by **troopie** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 9:46 am

MBT is a SPCamo op. SP:MW was a Matrix op, aborted for various reasons. Ilha Varhja was to have headed up SPMW, he who ran the SP3 Moderna op. Ilha seems to have dropped off the face of the Earth. He hasn't been heard from for months.

troopie

DavidW75 · Post by **DavidW75** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 11:38 pm

Oh well, I knew I shouldn't have deleted it off the hard drive.

Marek Tucan · Post by **Marek Tucan** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 12:50 pm

I have SP3:Moderna at home...With my, personally modified KOBs...And now it really seems that its homepage disappeared...But it is a bit more enjoying than the original SP3, there are interesting icons:) (SA-11, TOS-1, Smerch, Bv-206 and so on...)

Tip: Get some KOB editor and downgrade movements to 1/2 - it gives (on my opinion) more realistic look... Note that weapon ranges are 1/4 compared with the SP2, but the speed remained the same, so that you can flee from the range of light arty (some) in on turn:)
And try to engage some on-board aircrafts - I have duplicated the A-10 and Su-25 as an attack heloes to act more as a direct support - sometimes it is interesting with 30mm Avenger GG and T-55s:)

Oops... Ihave to leave and go for another lesson of Maths... Bye!

DavidW75 · Post by **DavidW75** » Tue Nov 05, 2002 10:14 pm

How big is the Moderna file. It's too big for email isn't it?

Les_the_Sarge_9_1 · Post by **Les_the_Sarge_9_1** » Wed Nov 06, 2002 1:46 am

Just to insert a comment here, it is entirely likely to big for email.

A good suggestion is to get yourself one of many chat programs that allow file transfer options.

I am sure that you can arrange to get one of the many free chat programs that both can use.

There is AOL, Yahoo, ICQ, as well as others I suspect.

Then there is peer to peer programs as well. I like using Direct Connect myself.

Karnaaj · Post by **Karnaaj** » Wed Nov 06, 2002 9:46 am

Hmmm. If Moderna is distributable, it might be worthwhile for it to be tossed to one of the FTP sites, so everybody can grab from there. I dunno offhand what sites are open to user-uploads, tho. Sunsite, mebbe? One of the mirrors for SPWAW?

I'm just greedy, I guess. <G>

Marek Tucan · Post by **Marek Tucan** » Thu Nov 07, 2002 3:53 pm

Each zip file for Moderna measures about 1-2Megabytes, there are files with exe and kobs, shps, scens, pics and I think there was another one... I have only basics - exe+kob, shp and scen/campaign files. And my mailing programme gets stuck with larger files added to messages...

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Fri Apr 25, 2003 11:04 pm

I may be a bit of a fossil for asking, I am looking for the Moderna patch to SP3.

Does someone still have the files, and be willing to share them? My last computer had them, but it crashed and I am unable to recover anything.

I know that the files may be too large to send through email, but if there is an available ftp site that we may be able to use, it would be great to share this great addition to SP.

Heck, I'll be glad if anyone responds to this post!

Les_the_Sarge_9_1 · Post by **Les_the_Sarge_9_1** » Sat Apr 26, 2003 12:07 am

Hmm this thread has been collecting dust a while now hasn't it.

Last I had heard, Moderna was kinda a dead end issue.

As it goes, it is possible those needing a modern fix in their Steel Panthers enjoyment, really need to look into SPMBT over here.

http://linetap.com/www/drg/SPCamo.htm

I am very obviously a pro SPWaW player, but the modern player will likely be pleased playing SPMBT.

For Windows based issues, this link should cover all the bases.

http://linetap.com/www/drg/SPCamo-SPinXP.htm

Currently I am informed that the DOS versions can run in XP if you have the proper conditions met.

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Sat Apr 26, 2003 2:13 am

Les, thanks for responding,

My old computer also had SPMBT as well. I am unable to play on my current computer (Windows 2000), but I have a new on the way that will allow me to play.

I just had a few ideas, as was hoping someone out there still had the Moderna patch tucked away on their hard drive and was willing to share it.

The difference in scale is what I like about SP3 and it allows me to do different things. In this case, I am trying to replicate what the US Army is doing with its new transformational "Stryker" Brigades, and Moderna gave a significant upgrade in capability towards that end.

Simulating these new units has been an interest of mine, and I wanted to compare a couple of simulations. I have already tried TACOPs, but I have to build my own scenarios in order to do it. Between that and the lack of depth in terrain simulation in TACOPs, I am not satisfied with it.

If anyone has better ideas or know of another good system or download available, I am all ears.

Thanks,

Matt

Les_the_Sarge_9_1 · Post by **Les_the_Sarge_9_1** » Sat Apr 26, 2003 3:37 am

As the saying goes, more than one way to skin a cat.

Have you ever taken People's General for a spin?

Yes to be sure it most certainly isn't part of the Steel Panthers family.
But I give it a definite 2 thumbs up for how well it likes to run in Win XP. That and when you consider the wealth of options available with the right fan sites, like this one.

http://pub131.ezboard.com/bjpspanzers

And you can even get the program as a free download (you can make your own mind up about whether that bothers you, it's not my site or my responsibility).

They have a lot of modifications in there.

Lastly do you have a copy of Steel Panthers 3 Brigade Combat?

Currently it is the only one not yet represented as a free download it appears. But it is still on the retail scene in its original retail format here.

http://www.cdaccess.com/html/pc/steelp3.htm

I have not had the pleasure of playing the Moderna software myself, missed the boat when it was around.

Randy · Post by **Randy** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 2:00 am

Speaking of SPMBT (which I find is prettty good for modern stuff-you can do air moble mech stuff w/ choppers), does anyone know when they will have version 2.0 ? Thanks

SP3: Moderna??

SP3: Moderna??

Looking for Moderna as well