Nice raid! When you decided not to attack with the Brit CVs and bring in LBA to do the job, I thought the delay might mean you missed the APDs and other amphibs.
Glad to see you caught them with their Tojos down around their ankles! [:D]
Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy(A) vs KenchiSulla (J)
Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
Oh, I know damage to BBs from the bombers would be minimal. But I wouldn't keep mine where they'd have to take it day after day. Things (fire) can happen.
In the next couple weeks, CF'll be introduced to the F4U-1. We'll see how Tojo fares.
I wish I would have hit things like ADs and ASs.
In the next couple weeks, CF'll be introduced to the F4U-1. We'll see how Tojo fares.
I wish I would have hit things like ADs and ASs.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Nice raid! When you decided not to attack with the Brit CVs and bring in LBA to do the job, I thought the delay might mean you missed the APDs and other amphibs.
Glad to see you caught them with their Tojos down around their ankles! [:D]
I'm sure when it's quiet for so long, it's very easy to get complacent.
I like to do the random attack out of nowhere. Probably drives him nuts. [8D]
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
14 January 1943
Today was fairly quiet. Lot of air activity the previous day, and I managed to beat up on his fighters a bit. Everyone's recovering today. I'm getting engineers and support to some of the more backwoods bases in India. I'll be pretty fluid and flexible when everything's set up.
My troops finally departed Katherine and didn't get bombed.
My forces for Adak are getting close to readiness. A little over 60 now. I'll be pulling the trigger on that soon. I'll stage them at Dutch Harbor first and send the mob over from there. I'll have the invasion TF itself, a bombardment group, an ASW group and a minesweeping group. Standard Ed doctrine. Air from Umnak will assist.
Today was fairly quiet. Lot of air activity the previous day, and I managed to beat up on his fighters a bit. Everyone's recovering today. I'm getting engineers and support to some of the more backwoods bases in India. I'll be pretty fluid and flexible when everything's set up.
Morning Air attack on Nagpur , at 44,28
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 37
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 6
P-40K Warhawk x 35
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 30000 feet
CAP engaged:
No.258 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 30000.
Raid is overhead
51st FG/16th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
51st FG/25th FS with P-40K Warhawk (3 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 29580.
Raid is overhead
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40K Warhawk (3 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 29580.
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on Nagpur , at 44,28
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 102 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 4
Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 3
P-40K Warhawk x 19
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
No Allied losses
CAP engaged:
51st FG/16th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 22000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 79 minutes
No.258 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
51st FG/25th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
Morning Air attack on Trincomalee , at 31,47
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 17
A6M5 Zero x 18
Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 7 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-38F Lightning: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 17 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
286 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 33220.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Trincomalee , at 31,47
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 13
A6M5 Zero x 4
Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 2
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
286 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 34197.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
My troops finally departed Katherine and didn't get bombed.
My forces for Adak are getting close to readiness. A little over 60 now. I'll be pulling the trigger on that soon. I'll stage them at Dutch Harbor first and send the mob over from there. I'll have the invasion TF itself, a bombardment group, an ASW group and a minesweeping group. Standard Ed doctrine. Air from Umnak will assist.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
No CVEs for Adak? I'd think that would be a good addition to the fleet.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
I thought hard about it, but I think I can keep this one on the surface. I don't want too much to provoke certain elements of the IJN.
I've been getting tons of real, bona fide amphibious ships lately. Hopefully, they make the next invasion go smoothly.
I've been getting tons of real, bona fide amphibious ships lately. Hopefully, they make the next invasion go smoothly.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
Perhaps it's possible. You won't be able to provide effective LRCAP over the invasion fleet so you better make sure the Japanese can't put up any bombers against you. That being said, I don't think 1 or 2 CVEs will draw the KB up here. Aleutians are pretty far away from everything else as well; should that happen you could cause all sorts of trouble elsewhere. But I agree that should the KB sortie here there could be some trouble on the return trip if you went back the way you came. But I do see a solution that would probably baffle the Japanese and allow you to pull off the invasion safely; instead of withdrawing your CVEs and invasion to the SE send them up NE to Nome to wait a week or so to see if the KB is trying to cut you off. Should this happen you will have a free hand somewhere else while the KB searches aimlessly for your ships which they will almost certainly not find.ORIGINAL: Mundy
I thought hard about it, but I think I can keep this one on the surface. I don't want too much to provoke certain elements of the IJN.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
19 January 1943
Hankow's looking shaky now. The odds are creeping down, as well as the kill ratio. This is the third straight day of attacks. It'll probably fall in a day or two.
Judging from the ratio at Wuchang, I have a 4-1 AV ratio there, so I'll take a shot. Supplies are poor, so I don't expect much, but there's the chance he robbed a bit too much from there.
My Adak invasion departed Seattle. The 87th Mountain Rgt and the 4th Raiders plus combat engineers and 3 battalions of artillery. One battleship with the landings and two more to bombard out front. Air from Umnak will also prep when the BBs get near. Hopefully, I'm not too light. I have a full infantry division at San Fran I recently flipped over, but they're not prepped for anything right now. If I have to abort, I'll use them as extra muscle for a second shot.
Otherwise, I'll use them for the Noumea/Luganville offensive. When the time comes for that one, a lot of shipping will be involved. I only have enough assault transports for one job at a time right now. A bunch more LSTs and the like are enroute to Pearl.
Hankow's looking shaky now. The odds are creeping down, as well as the kill ratio. This is the third straight day of attacks. It'll probably fall in a day or two.
Ground combat at Hankow (85,50)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 54679 troops, 467 guns, 189 vehicles, Assault Value = 2704
Defending force 43738 troops, 122 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 199
Japanese adjusted assault: 1774
Allied adjusted defense: 121
Japanese assault odds: 14 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
693 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Allied ground losses:
1392 casualties reported
Squads: 60 destroyed, 103 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 21 (3 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Assaulting units:
116th/B Division
22nd Division
25th/A Division
116th/A Division
39th Division
56th Division
13th RGC Temp. Division
3rd/B Division
11th RGC Temp. Division
17th Division
25th/B Division
25th/C Division
3rd/A Division
3rd/C Division
2nd Ind Engineer Regiment
116th/C Division
51st Field Const Co
13th Army
Hankow Special Base Force
54th JAAF AF Bn
Defending units:
59th Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
68th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
45th Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps
26th Group Army
Judging from the ratio at Wuchang, I have a 4-1 AV ratio there, so I'll take a shot. Supplies are poor, so I don't expect much, but there's the chance he robbed a bit too much from there.
My Adak invasion departed Seattle. The 87th Mountain Rgt and the 4th Raiders plus combat engineers and 3 battalions of artillery. One battleship with the landings and two more to bombard out front. Air from Umnak will also prep when the BBs get near. Hopefully, I'm not too light. I have a full infantry division at San Fran I recently flipped over, but they're not prepped for anything right now. If I have to abort, I'll use them as extra muscle for a second shot.
Otherwise, I'll use them for the Noumea/Luganville offensive. When the time comes for that one, a lot of shipping will be involved. I only have enough assault transports for one job at a time right now. A bunch more LSTs and the like are enroute to Pearl.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
21 January 1943
Hankow is holding on -- barely.
My new F4U squadron in Bombay is two planes away from filling out. I must have drawn too soon, as I can't pull the last ones in yet. 6 sitting in the pool.
My new recon Spits are at Warangal, checking Cuttack next turn. Nice range on these. Base building going on in lots of places.
Adak force is about 1/3 the way to Dutch Harbor.
I have an Aussie division at Aden. Not enough APs to haul them outright. I'm debating whether to move them in shifts or wait for some more xAPs to arrive from Cape Town. I'd like a few more escorts to arrive first.
All the troops from the Raipur attack are now resting at well stocked rear bases. Hopefully they can be healed before anything big happens in India again. Cocanada is sitting in perpetual standoff mode. I'd love to pile in the bodies there and overrun him, but I'd probably attract the fossil battleships.
Quiet everywhere else, apart from the perpetual bombings in China. I've bagged a few xAKs recently with my subs, between PI and Japan.
Hankow is holding on -- barely.
Ground combat at Hankow (85,50)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 64729 troops, 550 guns, 193 vehicles, Assault Value = 2700
Defending force 41017 troops, 109 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 77
Japanese adjusted assault: 1972
Allied adjusted defense: 73
Japanese assault odds: 27 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
210 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
2586 casualties reported
Squads: 100 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 17 (6 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Assaulting units:
3rd/A Division
11th RGC Temp. Division
3rd/B Division
13th RGC Temp. Division
56th Division
25th/C Division
25th/A Division
39th Division
25th/B Division
17th Division
2nd Ind Engineer Regiment
22nd Division
116th Division
3rd/C Division
51st Field Const Co
Hankow Special Base Force
13th Army
54th JAAF AF Bn
Defending units:
59th Chinese Corps
68th Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
67th Chinese Corps
26th Group Army
My new F4U squadron in Bombay is two planes away from filling out. I must have drawn too soon, as I can't pull the last ones in yet. 6 sitting in the pool.
My new recon Spits are at Warangal, checking Cuttack next turn. Nice range on these. Base building going on in lots of places.
Adak force is about 1/3 the way to Dutch Harbor.
I have an Aussie division at Aden. Not enough APs to haul them outright. I'm debating whether to move them in shifts or wait for some more xAPs to arrive from Cape Town. I'd like a few more escorts to arrive first.
All the troops from the Raipur attack are now resting at well stocked rear bases. Hopefully they can be healed before anything big happens in India again. Cocanada is sitting in perpetual standoff mode. I'd love to pile in the bodies there and overrun him, but I'd probably attract the fossil battleships.
Quiet everywhere else, apart from the perpetual bombings in China. I've bagged a few xAKs recently with my subs, between PI and Japan.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
22 January 1942
Hankow falls.
A Continental P-38G squadron shows up at Tacoma. I set Kodiak and my Aleutian bases to West Coast Command so I can move them there. Extra help for the landings. I'll probably sweep first, since I did deal with Zekes in the area earlier.
Hankow falls.
A Continental P-38G squadron shows up at Tacoma. I set Kodiak and my Aleutian bases to West Coast Command so I can move them there. Extra help for the landings. I'll probably sweep first, since I did deal with Zekes in the area earlier.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
29 January 1943
Adak is getting prepped and landed upon. I had to deal with a couple subs first, and beat them up a bit.
The I boat had one "real" hit in the mix.
Next came the bombardment and landing.
The landing itself sucked. At this point, I'll restrict myself to bombardments, as I don't think I can topple them yet. The bombardment group is going back for a second round. At Dutch Harbor, the follow up group with the base and support forces is unloading them. I have another USA regiment I forgot about which is fully prepped for Adak, so I'll be sending them over. I had forgotten that I was preparing some invasions the better part of a year ago.
About four days back, CF took a shot at Wuchang. His odds were good, but he took the brunt of the casualties. It'll be awhile, but I'm sure it will finally fall.
There's a low grade siege at Nanning with one unit vs one unit. Liuchow is also under siege.
Yesterday, I took my new F4U-1 squadron out for a jaunt.
In April, I'll start getting my Hellcats and that should start turning things around on that end. I'll have about 130 a month coming in at that point. I'll probably flip two of the VMFs in India to Hellcats with Corsairs for the other two. I'll take care of my carriers as I can. With the CVs and CVEs (hopefully) stocked with them, I might be able to do more daring things.
I'm moving all my amphibious capable transports from Pearl to Suva, along with a bunch of battleships and all my carriers. More transports are moving troops from New Zealand to Suva, also. I'm probably going to take a shot at Noumea. The carrier air should deter the big nest of Betties he has there. Three CVs and eight CVEs will be present, and I'll have many different task forces involved, so if KB decides to take a shot, they'll probably get diluted a bit.
Adak is getting prepped and landed upon. I had to deal with a couple subs first, and beat them up a bit.
ASW attack near Adak Island at 162,52
Japanese Ships
SS I-21, hits 13
Allied Ships
BB Maryland
CA Minneapolis
CA Salt Lake City
CL Phoenix
CL Richmond
DD Russell
DD Farenholt
DD Blue
DD Bagley
SS I-21 is sighted by escort
DD Blue attacking submerged sub ....
DD Bagley fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Blue fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Bagley fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Bagley attacking submerged sub ....
DD Bagley attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-21 eludes ASW attack from DD Bagley
DD Bagley fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Adak Island at 162,52
Japanese Ships
SS RO-34, hits 7
Allied Ships
BB West Virginia
CL Columbia
CLAA Juneau
DD Bailey
AP W.A. Holbrook
AP J. Franklin Bell
AP Zeilin
AP Harris
AP Wharton
AK Alchiba
AK Alhena
AK Betelgeuse
LST-452
LST-447
DD Hammann
DD Anderson
SS RO-34 is sighted by escort
DD Hammann fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Anderson attacking submerged sub ....
DD Anderson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Anderson attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub
The I boat had one "real" hit in the mix.
Next came the bombardment and landing.
Night Naval bombardment of Adak Island at 162,52
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
H6K4 Mavis: 7 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied Ships
BB Colorado
BB Maryland
CA Minneapolis
CA Astoria
CA New Orleans
CA Salt Lake City
CL Phoenix
CL Richmond
DD Blue
DD Bagley
DD Russell
DD Farenholt
Japanese ground losses:
881 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 58 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 44
Port hits 21
Port supply hits 6
BB Colorado firing at Adak Island
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Maryland
BB Maryland firing at Adak Island
SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Minneapolis
CA Minneapolis firing at 83rd Naval Guard Unit
CA Astoria firing at Adak Island
CA New Orleans firing at 83rd Naval Guard Unit
CA Salt Lake City firing at Adak Island
CL Phoenix firing at Adak Island
CL Richmond firing at Adak Island
DD Blue firing at Adak Island
DD Bagley firing at Adak Island
DD Russell firing at Adak Island
DD Farenholt firing at 83rd Naval Guard Unit
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Pre-Invasion action off Adak Island (162,52)
15 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
BB West Virginia
CL Columbia
CLAA Juneau
DD Anderson
DD Barton
LST-447
AP W.A. Holbrook
DD Hammann
LST-452
Japanese ground losses:
322 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
BB West Virginia firing at 7th Base Force
CL Columbia firing at 83rd Naval Guard Unit
CLAA Juneau firing at 7th Base Force
DD Anderson firing at 7th Base Force
DD Barton firing at 7th Base Force
DD Anderson fired at enemy troops
DD Barton fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards
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Invasion Support action off Adak Island (162,52)
18 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
BB West Virginia
CL Columbia
CLAA Juneau
DD Hammann
DD Bailey
DD Barton
AP W.A. Holbrook
LST-447
LST-452
DD Bancroft
Japanese ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
BB West Virginia firing at 83rd Naval Guard Unit
CL Columbia firing at 83rd Naval Guard Unit
CLAA Juneau firing at 5th JNAF AF Unit
DD Hammann firing at 83rd Naval Guard Unit
DD Bailey firing at 5th JNAF AF Unit
DD Barton firing at 83rd Naval Guard Unit
DD Hammann fired at enemy troops
DD Bailey fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards
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Invasion Support action off Adak Island (162,52)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
LST-447
AP W.A. Holbrook
LST-447 fired at enemy troops
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Amphibious Assault at Adak Island (162,52)
TF 38 troops unloading over beach at Adak Island, 162,52
Allied ground losses:
1319 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 223 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 133 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 97 (2 destroyed, 95 disabled)
Vehicles lost 71 (0 destroyed, 71 disabled)
0.5in AAMG Sect (2) accidentally lost during unload of 50th Cmbt Engr Rgt
155mm M1 Howitzer accidentally lost during unload of 188th FA Bn
The landing itself sucked. At this point, I'll restrict myself to bombardments, as I don't think I can topple them yet. The bombardment group is going back for a second round. At Dutch Harbor, the follow up group with the base and support forces is unloading them. I have another USA regiment I forgot about which is fully prepped for Adak, so I'll be sending them over. I had forgotten that I was preparing some invasions the better part of a year ago.
About four days back, CF took a shot at Wuchang. His odds were good, but he took the brunt of the casualties. It'll be awhile, but I'm sure it will finally fall.
Ground combat at Wuchang (84,51)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 105258 troops, 908 guns, 507 vehicles, Assault Value = 3172
Defending force 123979 troops, 142 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2403
Japanese adjusted assault: 1971
Allied adjusted defense: 767
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
7634 casualties reported
Squads: 49 destroyed, 710 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 65 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 109 disabled
Guns lost 81 (3 destroyed, 78 disabled)
Vehicles lost 45 (2 destroyed, 43 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
2999 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 304 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 98 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
116th Division
17th Division
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
22nd Division
3rd Division
39th Division
15th Tank Regiment
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
58th Division
11th RGC Temp. Division
9th Tank Regiment
56th Division
13th RGC Temp. Division
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
13th Army
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
Defending units:
99th Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
10th Chinese Corps
44th Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
87th Chinese Corps
73rd Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
20th Chinese Corps
37th Chinese Corps
66th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment
There's a low grade siege at Nanning with one unit vs one unit. Liuchow is also under siege.
Yesterday, I took my new F4U-1 squadron out for a jaunt.
Morning Air attack on Raipur , at 45,31
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 15
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 21
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 17
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13
Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed
CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (3 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
17 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
6th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 30000.
Raid is overhead
25th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (1 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 32560.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 32540.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
In April, I'll start getting my Hellcats and that should start turning things around on that end. I'll have about 130 a month coming in at that point. I'll probably flip two of the VMFs in India to Hellcats with Corsairs for the other two. I'll take care of my carriers as I can. With the CVs and CVEs (hopefully) stocked with them, I might be able to do more daring things.
I'm moving all my amphibious capable transports from Pearl to Suva, along with a bunch of battleships and all my carriers. More transports are moving troops from New Zealand to Suva, also. I'm probably going to take a shot at Noumea. The carrier air should deter the big nest of Betties he has there. Three CVs and eight CVEs will be present, and I'll have many different task forces involved, so if KB decides to take a shot, they'll probably get diluted a bit.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
Well I think you may just be able to get away with the low prepped landing at Adak. You need to wait some turns for the LCUs to recover but you didn't take a lot of destroyed squads. Not ideal but it seems it may work against the rather small garrison there. Just be careful about being cut off heading east. You won't have any warning of a CV attack if it comes from the south. And you wouldn't be the first AFB to be burned returning from an Adak invasion like that. I know it sounds paranoid to send your ships to Nome and just wait but we know that CF has a penchant for hitting your invasion forces AFTER they have hit their target along their return route.
Suva is within patrol range of Japanese bases like Ndeni. Its not a place to put CVs or BBs for more than a couple of days. But I don't think it is time for a Noumea invasion yet. There are still lower hanging fruit. Too much LBA to deal with in the New Caledonia region to grab a real foothold. I fear that an invasion of it may succeed in taking the base but without CV superiority the KB can counterattack and the Japanese will just land reinforcements in the north of the island. The invasion of Guadalcanal worked IRL when there was parity in CVs but you haven't gotten there yet.ORIGINAL: Mundy
I'm moving all my amphibious capable transports from Pearl to Suva, along with a bunch of battleships and all my carriers. More transports are moving troops from New Zealand to Suva, also. I'm probably going to take a shot at Noumea. The carrier air should deter the big nest of Betties he has there. Three CVs and eight CVEs will be present, and I'll have many different task forces involved, so if KB decides to take a shot, they'll probably get diluted a bit.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
I'm open to suggestions for lower hanging fruit. The Gilberts don't look ready to take yet, as well as the Marshalls. Someplace like Diego Garcia may be promising, but intel says he's using at least fragments of a division to hold it.
I have a lot of fighters at Suva which can ferry to Noumea once it's taken. I don't know how much I want to weaken Suva at this point, though.
My Adak invasion was around 65 prep. Not ideal, but I'm guessing the usual northern weather played a part. The spare regiment at Dutch is as 100.
I have a lot of fighters at Suva which can ferry to Noumea once it's taken. I don't know how much I want to weaken Suva at this point, though.
My Adak invasion was around 65 prep. Not ideal, but I'm guessing the usual northern weather played a part. The spare regiment at Dutch is as 100.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
You might consider taking/building up Christmas Island (IO) to threaten that flank and make him spread out his defences, especially fighters.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
30 January 1942
Despite the disastrous landing at Adak, it looks like we're nearly even, strenghtwise. My bombardment seems to be hurting a bit, so I'll keep it up. My regiment is loading now. Hopefully, unloading via xAPs won't be too harmful.
Hopefully, India will be quiet for awhile. I made a point of showing off my Corsairs, so it may give pause to any adventurism. Of course, he doesn't know I have only one squadron up to strength...
Another squadron there has flipped over to them, but they only have 6 planes right now. Pool is empty, so it'll be a few weeks. 2.5 months can't come fast enough, where I'll be up to my armpits in F6Fs. Shortly after that, my new fleet carriers will show up.
My recovering LCUs in India are recovering nicely. I can see an appreciable AV gain every turn. The armored units are nearly up to strength already. I'm still waiting for enough transports to ship the Aussie infantry division over.
No IJN subs showed up at Adak this turn. I think I beat them both off nicely. One of the DDs there was shooting off 3 Y guns at a time, which seems to help the hit rate a bit.
Despite the disastrous landing at Adak, it looks like we're nearly even, strenghtwise. My bombardment seems to be hurting a bit, so I'll keep it up. My regiment is loading now. Hopefully, unloading via xAPs won't be too harmful.
Ground combat at Adak Island (162,52)
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 210 troops, 34 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 51
Defending force 4083 troops, 34 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 65
Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Assaulting units:
87th Mountain Regiment
4th Marine Raider Battalion
50th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
183rd Field Artillery Battalion
188th Field Artillery Battalion
Defending units:
83rd Naval Guard Unit
7th Base Force
5th JNAF AF Unit
Hopefully, India will be quiet for awhile. I made a point of showing off my Corsairs, so it may give pause to any adventurism. Of course, he doesn't know I have only one squadron up to strength...
Another squadron there has flipped over to them, but they only have 6 planes right now. Pool is empty, so it'll be a few weeks. 2.5 months can't come fast enough, where I'll be up to my armpits in F6Fs. Shortly after that, my new fleet carriers will show up.
My recovering LCUs in India are recovering nicely. I can see an appreciable AV gain every turn. The armored units are nearly up to strength already. I'm still waiting for enough transports to ship the Aussie infantry division over.
No IJN subs showed up at Adak this turn. I think I beat them both off nicely. One of the DDs there was shooting off 3 Y guns at a time, which seems to help the hit rate a bit.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
You might consider taking/building up Christmas Island (IO) to threaten that flank and make him spread out his defences, especially fighters.
That would be quite the chore. I know he's running plenty of Netties in the area, as some of my transports have discovered. It would take quite a while to put the pieces in place and they'd be committed to just there. I'd probably have to run out of Perth to do it.
If I consider that route, I may wait for some more RN carriers to pull that off. It would be hard for KB to interfere, assuming they're at Truk. Once I get the new USN CVs, I could probably dedicate a bunch of CVE to that.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
Keep an eye on those Indian armoured units. I had at least one of them (Patalia Lancers, I think) get up to full strength and then change over from armoured cars to tanks, but getting just one or two of them, dropping the AV to 1 or 2. Of course it was garrison for a base at the time, and I had to rush in another unit with 30 AV. [:@]
The great part about Indian units filling out is that their morale also goes up quickly as they get more of their TOE. Now if their leaders didn't all have such lousy Land and Aggression ratings ... and high PP ratings to change them! [:@]
The great part about Indian units filling out is that their morale also goes up quickly as they get more of their TOE. Now if their leaders didn't all have such lousy Land and Aggression ratings ... and high PP ratings to change them! [:@]
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
I'll have to do a review on what I've got. I've just been busy trying to stockpile bodies at this point. I think I've added about four divisions to what would normally be sent to India.
I'll keep the USMC units at the pointy end.
I had some Indian paras show up at Madras -- depleted of course. I'd say they're at about 80% right now. I've no shortage of cargo planes in-country, so I can incorporate them into whatever plan I eventually come up with.
All my units from the Raipur expedition are at Karachi, North Hyderabad and Bombay. All where the supply is highest. I've also been stuffing lots of flak at my forward airfields.
I've been developing lots of the little airfields in the rear, too. I've also moved all the heavy bombers I've had piled into Delhi to other bases with a better supply situation. Planes weren't really repairing very well there. I'm taking care of them for now, as the bomber pools are pretty empty
I'll keep the USMC units at the pointy end.
I had some Indian paras show up at Madras -- depleted of course. I'd say they're at about 80% right now. I've no shortage of cargo planes in-country, so I can incorporate them into whatever plan I eventually come up with.
All my units from the Raipur expedition are at Karachi, North Hyderabad and Bombay. All where the supply is highest. I've also been stuffing lots of flak at my forward airfields.
I've been developing lots of the little airfields in the rear, too. I've also moved all the heavy bombers I've had piled into Delhi to other bases with a better supply situation. Planes weren't really repairing very well there. I'm taking care of them for now, as the bomber pools are pretty empty
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
India starts out with poor air support - just what is in the base forces. Around now you should start receiving British Air Wings and BFs to go with the Air Group HQs that were at Columbo, Singapore and Rangoon. They show up at Aden but may need to fill out a bit, so I leave them at Aden until TOE and morale are decent.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
Well what about Horn Island? What's the situation like in NW OZ? Either way, I think you are probably 6 months away from being able to launch a successful amphibious campaign in the Pacific. North Pacific is the exception because there is no depth behind Adak; everywhere else you would land there are supporting Japanese bases to the rear which can not be so easily suppressed.ORIGINAL: Mundy
I'm open to suggestions for lower hanging fruit. The Gilberts don't look ready to take yet, as well as the Marshalls. Someplace like Diego Garcia may be promising, but intel says he's using at least fragments of a division to hold it.
I'm sure you can. But what good are those fighters going to be when the Japanese bombard the base with cruisers at night? There are going to be stuck damaged on the airfields. To launch a successful invasion you don't just have to take the base; you need to defend it. Retaking isolated Allied bases after heavy suppression isn't a difficult task for Japan even in 43.ORIGINAL: Mundy
I have a lot of fighters at Suva which can ferry to Noumea once it's taken. I don't know how much I want to weaken Suva at this point, though.
What I'd really like to see you do in this game right now is take control of the air situation in New Guinea. Let's see those P-38s and F4Us knocking down Japanese fighters and 4E cleaning up the mess with favorable kill ratios. Once you have established some dominance there I believe it start opening up other adventures for you.