My Historical Global War AAR #3.

[composer99]

Wouldn't the Polish planes want to rebase to a neutral country to be interned, destroying the air units but providing the CW with the pilots? I don't think the bomber can escape if it gets used for ground support.

[rkr1958]

ORIGINAL: composer99

Wouldn't the Polish planes want to rebase to a neutral country to be interned, destroying the air units but providing the CW with the pilots? I don't think the bomber can escape if it gets used for ground support.

Thanks for the tip. Live and learn. [:(]

[rkr1958]

Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Weather.

The weather roll is a 2, which is fine across the world. It's fantastic weather if you're the axis.

Both the Germans and Japanese take a land. Italy, who's still neutral, takes a combined.

The Germans will use this weather to finish Poland and conquer Denmark. The Japanese will continue their push in the north.

[rkr1958]

Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. German Invades Denmark.

The US reacts by adding a chit to the Germany/Italy Entry pool.

[rkr1958]

Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Germany Conquers Denmark.

Well, Germany unofficially conquered Denmark. It won't be official until the end of this turn.

1 Danish CP and the CA Peder Skram escape and make it to the UK. 1 Danish CP is captured by the Germans. The other Danish CA and 4 CPs are scuttled (i.e., destroyed).

[rkr1958]

Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Warsaw, Poland. German Artillery Attack.

A 105 mm German artillery division shells Warsaw in a prelude to the final assault to take the city. While the Kakow 5-3 Polish corps once again manages to get through the ground strike organized, the Polish bomber and fighter units are disorganized. This means that the bomber unit won't be able to adds its 3 TAC factors in ground support to the defense of the city. And that the Polish fighter, along with the bomber unit, will be destroyed when the city is taken.

[rkr1958]

Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Warsaw, Poland. Land Combat.

Well total disaster is averted but not by much in Germany's ground attack on Warsaw. The Germans roll a 2 (modified to a 4), manage to take the city and avoid any losses. However 14 German units are disorganized by the attack. Note that since the city was surrounded the shatter result obtained (-/1S) meant that all Polish defenders were destroyed, not just the one indicated by the result.

[rkr1958]

Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Poland, Germany and France.

Poland for all intents and purposes is now conquered. von Bock is used to reorganized two elite 7-3 infantry corps and an AA division. German has begun, and will continue, the transfer of troops from Poland to the west for the pending attack on the Low Countries and France (i.e., Case Yellow).

[rkr1958]

Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Nanyang, China. Land Combat.

In Northern China, the IJA has one more impediment to getting out the communist and that's the Nationalist held city of Nanyang. The Japanese roll a 1! Though the Japanese still manage to capture the city, it doesn't come without cost.

[rkr1958]

Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Northern China.

Umezu is used to reorganize three units, which are a 8-3 elite army, a 6-3 elite army and a 5-4 regular army. Given decent weather next impulse, the IJA should be able to clear the Chinese 3-3 blocking the valley between Shansi and Honan mountains ranges.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

ORIGINAL: rkr1958

Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Germany Conquers Denmark.

Well, Germany unofficially conquered Denmark. It won't be official until the end of this turn.

1 Danish CP and the CA Peder Skram escape and make it to the UK. 1 Danish CP is captured by the Germans. The other Danish CA and 4 CPs are scuttled (i.e., destroyed).

How about if CW would land Denmark with HQ and Mech (div has no ZoC) and take northern port? Later bring more units and take HQ to France. After it was done to me I decided not to take Denmark with divisions anymore...

[Centuur]

Yes, the CW should land adjacent to the division, because the hex is probably still not Axis controlled. After that comes a nice 13-1 battle and the CW can see if they can cause trouble over there. Since the Germans put far too many units in Poland and to few against the French, the CW isn't under pressure to send the BEF into France at all.

MWIF is just like chess. Force your opponent in doing things he really doesn't want to do. Mess up the enemies plans and you've won the war...

[rkr1958]

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

How about if CW would land Denmark with HQ and Mech (div has no ZoC) and take northern port? Later bring more units and take HQ to France. After it was done to me I decided not to take Denmark with divisions anymore...

Intriguing. While as the German player this would cause me some initial pain I might just prefer this. With the BEF in Denmark then the defense of France would be significantly weaken. And, it seems that four German infantry corps could keep the Brits in Denmark bottled up until pazners were ready to roll and take them out.

ORIGINAL: Centuur

Yes, the CW should land adjacent to the division, because the hex is probably still not Axis controlled. After that comes a nice 13-1 battle and the CW can see if they can cause trouble over there. Since the Germans put far too many units in Poland and to few against the French, the CW isn't under pressure to send the BEF into France at all.

MWIF is just like chess. Force your opponent in doing things he really doesn't want to do. Mess up the enemies plans and you've won the war...

The challenge for me as the axis in the early game, in this and other strategic level ww2 games, is not to let the allies dictate the action, even when they do something unexpected. Sure the could land in northern Denmark and seize the port there, but couldn't I then keep them bottled up with 2 or 3 medium strength infantry until I was ready to deal with them?

You both have given me something to ponder when I make my moves as the allies. Should I do this? The only way I can answer this is that I can say if I were the CW I wouldn't risk it. Maybe I'm too cautious though?

[AllenK]

Keep an eye on our AAR for how well that 'deal with them when I'm ready' could go.

[rkr1958]

ORIGINAL: AllenK

Keep an eye on our AAR for how well that 'deal with them when I'm ready' could go.

The one that you and Mayhemizer are just wrapping up?

[Centuur]

Sure, you can bottle them up. But it will need at least 4 reasonable good units to do so and they need to be backed up by the Luftwaffe with ground support availability. This is because the CW has all those large shiney BB's ready to start giving shore bombardment to make things very bad for the Germans.

Imagine the London MIL arriving in Denmark and a stack decides to attack a single German INF. CW puts in the BB's and there is a juicy 4-1 or even 5-1 if there isn't a German bomber to provide ground support.

And it gets even more difficult to contain the CW there, when the RAF gets a shiney Hurricane or Spitfire into Denmark too. Then Germany needs Me-109's too...

No, you've made a mistake, and the CW should exploit it. No waiting on what the enemy does first! They should be punished for conquering Poland and invading Denmark. Those countries are betrayed and the British Empire comes to the rescue.

And the nicest thing is: if Germany starts flying the Stuka's into Denmark to attack the CW there, the CW simply pick up the expensive units (like the HQ and the MECH) and leave the MIL to get slaughtered. And it's going to be winter too...

So put 4 units into Denmark by the CW and let Germany handle this...

Oh: and I forget the best part of this: the CW can just decide to leave the units in Denmark doing absolutely nothing but tying up German units by simply being there...

[rkr1958]

ORIGINAL: Centuur

Sure, you can bottle them up. But it will need at least 4 reasonable good units to do so and they need to be backed up by the Luftwaffe with ground support availability. This is because the CW has all those large shiney BB's ready to start giving shore bombardment to make things very bad for the Germans.

Imagine the London MIL arriving in Denmark and a stack decides to attack a single German INF. CW puts in the BB's and there is a juicy 4-1 or even 5-1 if there isn't a German bomber to provide ground support.

And it gets even more difficult to contain the CW there, when the RAF gets a shiney Hurricane or Spitfire into Denmark too. Then Germany needs Me-109's too...

No, you've made a mistake, and the CW should exploit it. No waiting on what the enemy does first! They should be punished for conquering Poland and invading Denmark. Those countries are betrayed and the British Empire comes to the rescue.

And the nicest thing is: if Germany starts flying the Stuka's into Denmark to attack the CW there, the CW simply pick up the expensive units (like the HQ and the MECH) and leave the MIL to get slaughtered. And it's going to be winter too...

So put 4 units into Denmark by the CW and let Germany handle this...

Oh: and I forget the best part of this: the CW can just decide to leave the units in Denmark doing absolutely nothing but tying up German units by simply being there...

Aye aye, sir. Even playing solitaire I seemingly can be strategically surprised by my opponent. [&:]

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: Centuur

Sure, you can bottle them up. But it will need at least 4 reasonable good units to do so and they need to be backed up by the Luftwaffe with ground support availability. This is because the CW has all those large shiney BB's ready to start giving shore bombardment to make things very bad for the Germans.

Imagine the London MIL arriving in Denmark and a stack decides to attack a single German INF. CW puts in the BB's and there is a juicy 4-1 or even 5-1 if there isn't a German bomber to provide ground support.

And it gets even more difficult to contain the CW there, when the RAF gets a shiney Hurricane or Spitfire into Denmark too. Then Germany needs Me-109's too...

No, you've made a mistake, and the CW should exploit it. No waiting on what the enemy does first! They should be punished for conquering Poland and invading Denmark. Those countries are betrayed and the British Empire comes to the rescue.

And the nicest thing is: if Germany starts flying the Stuka's into Denmark to attack the CW there, the CW simply pick up the expensive units (like the HQ and the MECH) and leave the MIL to get slaughtered. And it's going to be winter too...

So put 4 units into Denmark by the CW and let Germany handle this...

Oh: and I forget the best part of this: the CW can just decide to leave the units in Denmark doing absolutely nothing but tying up German units by simply being there...

What if Germany abandon the Jutland Peninsula altogether for now? Just defending the German border and Zealand (with Copenhagen). More CW units in Jutland means less units in Belgium and France. Should be time enough to clear that mess up after the fall of France and before USSR and USA has entered the war.

German, and possibly Italian, naval bombers (with escorts based in Zealand) could make Fredirikshavn a dangerous port for CW.

[rkr1958]

Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #4. PM Neville Chamberlain.

In a speech carried by the BBC to the peoples of the Commonwealth, PM Lord Neville Chamberlain apologize for, "having the wool pulled over his eyes by that corporal in Berlin." He vowed that "that corporal" would rue the day that he made a mockery of the Munich agreement. To a stunned nation he announced that even as he was speaking a British Expeditionary Force was landing in northern Denmark and retaking the port of Frederikshavn from those Nazi criminals.

[rkr1958]

Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #4. Land Combat. Fredrikshavn, Denmark.