scout1(WA) vs ultradave(G), restart, 43-45 Campaign (Turn 16)

[scout1]

Didn't get a screen shot, but Hermann may need to sell some art and buy a replacement division .....

[scout1]

by gaully ..... HG slipped by ...... not sure how though

[ultradave]

Everyone slipped out. A little worse for wear but they escaped. I just noticed the British 1st Airborne was completely destroyed on the invasion drop.

Moment of silence for my Airborne brothers..........

[ultradave]

Defensive line established. Herman Goring division lives. It's snowing in Italy so that has slowed the Allies. Unfortunately it also greatly reduces the Luftwaffe's abilities. But considering the end run from Taranto that caught me flatfooted, I think I've managed to salvage the situation and form a good defensive line, pretty much where I would have if I had to withdraw from the beach at Salerno

[scout1]

Defensive line has some give .... If only Marshall would have caved and sent more troops to this theatre

[bradcue]

ORIGINAL: ultradave

Defensive line established. Herman Goring division lives. It's snowing in Italy so that has slowed the Allies. Unfortunately it also greatly reduces the Luftwaffe's abilities. But considering the end run from Taranto that caught me flatfooted, I think I've managed to salvage the situation and form a good defensive line, pretty much where I would have if I had to withdraw from the beach at Salerno

Why defend the open terrain around Foggia? You need to limit Wehrmacht losses to keep it relevant into 1945. Defending in open terrain allows the Allies to bleed you very easily.

The only thing you are defending right now, really, is Naples.....and Naples is not that important, it's less than 1 VP a turn right now, has no production, and he already has the ports he needs for supplies

IMO, you should fall back to the Cassino line, which can be defended with 12 divisions.

[marion61]

You know that there are several high powered allied divisions just sitting in England, screaming to be used before D-Day? I always move at least the 1st Canadian Army and the 1st Airborne division to the Med. turn 1, along with those assault engineers just sitting around UK Home Forces. Move what you think you need down there, and when it's time to invade France, take them back.

[scout1]

sweet

[ultradave]

Point taken from meklore. At least now after salvaging a few divisions from being completely cut off I can fall back in better order.

First time playing Germany (other than the aborted game we started where scott couldn't get his invasions going).

[marion61]

Would you call that Invadetile Dysfunction?[8D]

[marion61]

Best thing you can do for yourself is to take some of Qball's advice and pull back to Cassino, with forts. Leave some divisions to hold that, or slow his advance to a crawl, but if you can hold Naples till Jan 44, do it. After Jan it's almost worthless as points a turn. You need to be preparing for his next invasion, and get those extra units into garrison areas to increase your vp's. You'll need those men so don't burn them out down there. I usually leave mountain and FJ units down there to hold, and honestly 12 divisions is too many. You really only need 4-6 depending on what he has, but you need to break them down and have two good Korps commanders to hold that line.

[ultradave]

Thanks.

[scout1]

Dave,

I'm thinking they are giving you bum advice ..... I say hold on the open ground ......

[ultradave]

Defensive line back to the mountains. Can still shrink it farther and free up a few more divisions but Naples is still in German hands. We like it there. Nice city.

[scout1]

haven't you heard the expression ..... See Naples and Die ..... ?

Guessing the 15th AF needs to pay you an up close and personal visit as a reminder .......