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Why is Mannerheim out of supply here? The weather is fine.

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Why is Mannerheim out of supply here? The weather is fine.

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I did wonder... I thought it might be ZOC into Tampere....
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Tampere is USSR controlled. But he should be able to use sea supply.
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Why is part of the rail line brown? Is that anything to do with it? I assume not as he has not been out of supply before.
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Why is part of the rail line brown? Is that anything to do with it? I assume not as he has not been out of supply before.
The brown part is not a rail line. It is the Arctic Highway and a road. For supply purposes a road has the same function as a railroad.

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Mannerheim was in supply when you made the attack a couple of impulses ago. After that I have not checked until now.
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Brown line is road, same thing in China. Can be used for supply and "railing" resources but not for railing units.
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Why is part of the rail line brown? Is that anything to do with it? I assume not as he has not been out of supply before.
The brown part is not a rail line. It is the Arctic Highway and a road. For supply purposes a road has the same function as a railroad.

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Mannerheim was in supply when you made the attack a couple of impulses ago. After that I have not checked until now.
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I have just checked it - WEIRD.

I moved the Soviet units away from the rail line and supply was restored - so this must be similar to that problem we found near Suez where supply was only being checked for certain routes.

However, why it is weird is that I have just undone the Soviet moves and guess what? Supply has been restored?????

The only thing different to now is that the Ski unit is in Tampere. I shall do the same exercise but keep it where it is i.e. it never moved to Tampere.

Okay now I leave the Finns where they are and simply move the Soviets away - and Mannerheim now remains out of supply......

So the rail line only is being used - except in the weird case above..[:@]
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It's a bug....
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It's a bug....
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That's a big problem for our game [:(]. Kind of makes me putting Mannerheim in the north pretty pointless.

Plea to Matrix and Erik re the forthcoming announcement on the game: Any thought of fixing netplay or AI or anything else just makes no sense when supply still has fundamental issues like this.
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It's a bug....
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That's a big problem for our game [:(]. Kind of makes me putting Mannerheim in the north pretty pointless.

Plea to Matrix and Erik re the forthcoming announcement on the game: Any thought of fixing netplay or AI or anything else just makes no sense when supply still has fundamental issues like this.
It can be solved. Just recapture Tampere.
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It's a bug....
warspite1

That's a big problem for our game [:(]. Kind of makes me putting Mannerheim in the north pretty pointless.

Plea to Matrix and Erik re the forthcoming announcement on the game: Any thought of fixing netplay or AI or anything else just makes no sense when supply still has fundamental issues like this.
It can be solved. Just recapture Tampere.
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Yes, we luckily have a solution of sorts in this instance - although I do not actually want to do that with my ski unit.
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I'm curious, leaving Tampere empty if you move the Finnish convoy to sea does it put Mannerheim in supply?
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I'm curious, leaving Tampere empty if you move the Finnish convoy to sea does it put Mannerheim in supply?

Hey, that could be the reason and not be a bug.

I mean, if you are using LOS it would not be a bug.
SiF option 11: (limited overseas supply) You can only trace a supply path overseas if each sea area you trace it through contains a friendly convoy, TRS or AMPH.

I don't think they can use the GE CONVs.
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I'm curious, leaving Tampere empty if you move the Finnish convoy to sea does it put Mannerheim in supply?

Hey, that could be the reason and not be a bug.

I mean, if you are using LOS it would not be a bug.
SiF option 11: (limited overseas supply) You can only trace a supply path overseas if each sea area you trace it through contains a friendly convoy, TRS or AMPH.

I don't think they can use the GE CONVs.
1) They can use German convoys. EDIT: Or rather, they should be able to use German convoy points if CPs were needed.
2) This is a game without the LOS option.

Here is the optional rules that we use in this game.


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I'm curious, leaving Tampere empty if you move the Finnish convoy to sea does it put Mannerheim in supply?

Hey, that could be the reason and not be a bug.

I mean, if you are using LOS it would not be a bug.
SiF option 11: (limited overseas supply) You can only trace a supply path overseas if each sea area you trace it through contains a friendly convoy, TRS or AMPH.

I don't think they can use the GE CONVs.
1) They can use German convoys. EDIT: Or rather, they should be able to use German convoy points if CPs were needed.
2) This is a game without the LOS option.

Here is the optional rules that we use in this game.


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So that means that if supply IS established by the Finnish convoy then the bug would be in the cooperating powers logic and not some strange isolated map fault.
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Which month is it ? can it have something to do with the ports being iced in ?
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Nope - Fine weather.
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