Who is she? ETO

Orm · Post by **Orm** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:14 pm

You get extra points if you know what month and year it is.

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:15 pm

ORIGINAL: Orm

Can you name the ship?

warspite1

Looks like a Queen Elizabeth-class - although where is her sternwalk. Not QE as she was the only one fitted with one at the outset. So one of four.

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:16 pm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm

Can you name the ship?

warspite1

Looks like a Queen Elizabeth-class - although where is her sternwalk. Not QE as she was the only one fitted with one at the outset. So one of four.

warspite1

a) too late
b) how did you know it was Barham from this picture?

No idea who Barnham is....[:D]

Orm · Post by **Orm** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:16 pm

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

ORIGINAL: Orm

Can you name the ship?

HMS Barnham

Do I get extra points for telling you that the water in the picture is the Clyde?

Quite right. [:)][&o]

Do you mind telling us how you knew exactly what ship of the class it was?

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:22 pm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm

Can you name the ship?

warspite1

Looks like a Queen Elizabeth-class - although where is her sternwalk. Not QE as she was the only one fitted with one at the outset. So one of four.

warspite1

a) too late
b) how did you know it was Barham from this picture?

No idea who Barnham is....[:D]

warspite1

I can't see how she is identified - please tell?

The ships were completed remarkably similar to each other. There were detail differences of course, but those affecting the stern was limited to the sternwalk (on Queen Elizabeth only) I mentioned previously. I am intrigued as to what gave Barham away.

mind_messing · Post by **mind_messing** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:33 pm

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

ORIGINAL: Orm

Can you name the ship?

HMS Barham

Do I get extra points for telling you that the water in the picture is the Clyde?
Quite right. [:)][&o]

Do you mind telling us how you knew exactly what ship of the class it was?

I remarked to Lokasenna in our PBEM exchanges about how I live a couple of miles away from where most of his RN ships were built. I stumbled across that photo looking into the history of the QE battleships, as they were the second largest warships ever built on the Clyde? First place went to Duke of York, IIRC.

As a side plug - http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/

mind_messing · Post by **mind_messing** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:43 pm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

The ships were completed remarkably similar to each other. There were detail differences of course, but those affecting the stern was limited to the sternwalk (on Queen Elizabeth only) I mentioned previously. I am intrigued as to what gave Barham away.

My first thought was some snarky reply about how it had the look of being built properly, a look that all the yards south of the border didn't really manage to match [:D]

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:58 pm

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

ORIGINAL: warspite1

The ships were completed remarkably similar to each other. There were detail differences of course, but those affecting the stern was limited to the sternwalk (on Queen Elizabeth only) I mentioned previously. I am intrigued as to what gave Barham away.

My first thought was some snarky reply about how it had the look of being built properly, a look that all the yards south of the border didn't really manage to match [:D]

warspite1

You? Giving me a snarky reply? Surely not, you are normally so polite and courteous toward me [:D]

...but then, if you did, I could reply that the three ships built south of the border were properly constructed and so lasted the war - Warspite despite taking 29 hits from the Germans at Jutland, a glider bomb at Salerno, bombed off Crete, mined in the English Channel etc etc. Not so the Scottish-built Barham.

But then, despite responding in obvious jest to your response, I would then get another snarky - and totally erroneous - response from you to say I was bringing Nationalism into it.....

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:15 pm

Right then, this should not be too difficult for the peeps here, but when I first saw this picture some years ago I thought they had labelled her incorrectly....

So who am dat?

rustysi · Post by **rustysi** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:53 pm

I fear that all my available time will be consumed by it.

A well founded fear.

mind_messing · Post by **mind_messing** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:03 pm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

ORIGINAL: warspite1

The ships were completed remarkably similar to each other. There were detail differences of course, but those affecting the stern was limited to the sternwalk (on Queen Elizabeth only) I mentioned previously. I am intrigued as to what gave Barham away.

My first thought was some snarky reply about how it had the look of being built properly, a look that all the yards south of the border didn't really manage to match [:D]
warspite1

You? Giving me a snarky reply? Surely not, you are normally so polite and courteous toward me [:D]

...but then, if you did, I could reply that the three ships built south of the border were properly constructed and so lasted the war - Warspite despite taking 29 hits from the Germans at Jutland, a glider bomb at Salerno, bombed off Crete, mined in the English Channel etc etc. Not so the Scottish-built Barham.

But then, despite responding in obvious jest to your response, I would then get another snarky - and totally erroneous - response from you to say I was bringing Nationalism into it.....

[:D]

Can't blame us someone from Kent sailing her into two torpedoes!

In spite of everything, I like you; you give as good as you get.

Just be glad John Brown and Co didn't build the Sea-lion invasion barges [:D]

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:14 am

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

My first thought was some snarky reply about how it had the look of being built properly, a look that all the yards south of the border didn't really manage to match [:D]
warspite1

You? Giving me a snarky reply? Surely not, you are normally so polite and courteous toward me [:D]

...but then, if you did, I could reply that the three ships built south of the border were properly constructed and so lasted the war - Warspite despite taking 29 hits from the Germans at Jutland, a glider bomb at Salerno, bombed off Crete, mined in the English Channel etc etc. Not so the Scottish-built Barham.

But then, despite responding in obvious jest to your response, I would then get another snarky - and totally erroneous - response from you to say I was bringing Nationalism into it.....

[:D]

Can't blame us someone from Kent sailing her into two torpedoes!

In spite of everything, I like you; you give as good as you get.

Just be glad John Brown and Co didn't build the Sea-lion invasion barges [:D]

warspite1

I don't think John Brown building the barges would have made any difference. From the way they have been described they would have been impregnable whoever built them!!! In fact I am surprised the Allies didn't simply take the German designs, build them to match and use them for D-Day! [:)]

But more importantly - it looks like I have stumped the panel with the picture! Hussah!

Orm · Post by **Orm** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:17 am

But more importantly - it looks like I have stumped the panel with the picture! Hussah!

Could it be that they have not yet seen the picture.

It could be that they are out on a date with Bud. [;)]

Orm · Post by **Orm** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:50 pm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Right then, this should not be too difficult for the peeps here, but when I first saw this picture some years ago I thought they had labelled her incorrectly....

So who am dat?

Could you give me a clue since no one seems to be able to name the ship?

Gilbert · Post by **Gilbert** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:06 pm

HMS London

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:24 pm

ORIGINAL: Gilbert

HMS London

warspite1

I thought you would know Gilbert [:)]

It is HMS London from the county-class with their distinctive 3-stack profile.... well not anymore [:)]. HMS London was extensively modified (note the sexy superstructure/bridge design that the RN adopted in the late 30's). Sadly the re-build was not, at least initially, a success as the alterations (and the weight added) actually over-stressed the hull. Whoops! [X(]

Orm · Post by **Orm** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:15 pm

Who is it? When was it? And where was it?

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:21 pm

ORIGINAL: Orm

Who is it? When was it? And where was it?

warspite1

HMS Warspite - Bremerton in 1942?

Orm · Post by **Orm** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:32 pm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm

Who is it? When was it? And where was it?

warspite1

HMS Warspite - Bremerton in 1942?

You got one right. [:)]

Want to have another go at where and when?

Edit: I really like this picture. [:)]

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:46 pm

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Orm

Who is it? When was it? And where was it?

warspite1

HMS Warspite - Bremerton in 1942?
You got one right. [:)]

Want to have another go at where and when?

Edit: I really like this picture. [:)]

warspite1

I thought with that colour scheme it must be no earlier than her 1942 refit following the damage incurred off Crete. Are you sure about this Ormster? That looks like her AA above B turret being mounted. That was her 1942 refit at Bremerton I thought.

EDIT: Could be 1941 as the refit does not look near completion (she sailed in January 1942), but I am convinced this is Bremerton.

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