Brother Against Brother V1.04beta now available for testing!!

From the first clash at Manassas to the epic confrontation between Lee and Grant, the Brother Against Brother series will bring new levels of historical detail and realism to the battles of the Civil War. This regimental-level game, created by the developers of the award-winning Forge of Freedom, builds on that game’s acclaimed tactical engine, adding scrupulously researched orders of battle, high-quality map graphics, command and control rules reflecting the numerous challenges faced by army commanders, and plenty other features. Beginning with The Drawing of The Sword – which recreates the pivotal opening battles at Manassas , Wilson ’s Creek, Mill Springs and Williamsburg – Brother Against Brother lets you refight the Civil War from start to finish.

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RE: Brother Against Brother V1.02beta now available for testing!!

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I played my PBEM turn and when it ended I upgraded. My opponent played his turn ok and when completed he upgraded. So far no problems.

I have edited this post as I've just played a PBEM turn and I did find three of my units had teleported off a victory hex by two hexes. They all moved two hexes NE, towards the enemy, the artillery unit even crossed a river to get there, leaving the victoy hex umguarded which was at the end of a bridge, he is now two hexes away fom the enemy, and alone. Very strange, I will continue to monitor.
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ORIGINAL: Brambo

I played my PBEM turn and when it ended I upgraded. My opponent played his turn ok and when completed he upgraded. So far no problems.

I have edited this post as I've just played a PBEM turn and I did find three of my units had teleported off a victory hex by two hexes. They all moved two hexes NE, towards the enemy, the artillery unit even crossed a river to get there, leaving the victoy hex umguarded which was at the end of a bridge, he is now two hexes away fom the enemy, and alone. Very strange, I will continue to monitor.

Whenever, you upgrade even if you manage to coordinate it is unpredictable what will happen to ongoing games since we have no way to know if the PBEM file now points to data that has been altered in the new version. The best way to handle PBEM is stick with the version the game started in. I am going to post a method over in the PBEM Opponents forum.

My problem was that the names used in the PBEM site are different from those used here in the Forums so there is no way to contact them to see if the problems is due to upgrades or them going on vacation.
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Hello All,

A new version is up and available for testing. Please give it a go and let us know of any issues you may encounter.

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Very good changes-thank you for this! BTW-the date on the post says March 1st? Anyways---well done!
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Thanks for the quick patch! In particular, the NATO counters are now far more useful with those formation indications on them.
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To clarify Gerry's edited post, I'll note that the new stuff in 1.03 is the bulleted list, while the non-bulleted stuff was already in 1.02.

Also, Eric and I did not inform Gerry of this, so it was left out of his list, but I also made a change that fixes a Williamsburg-only scenario whereby two brigades and D.H. Hill's division would sometimes be leaderless. The leaders involved -- Hill, Couch, and I-forget-who -- will begin the scenario in guard-mode, thus immobilizing them until it is their time to appear on the battlefield. (There is a boring, code-related explanation for why we're doing this with these three commanders.)
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Oh, another fix that's not included in Gerry's list (WCS's fault, not Gerry's) is that 1.03 has that fix to the bug that affected the in-command status of units in an enemy's zone of control. So that should no longer be an issue -- welcome news to at least two of you who were waiting for this news.
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As a reviewer, please make the build version clear on an intro page.
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Thanks for the beta..some good changes here.

A couple of things I noticed with the beta:

1. Prior saved Williamsburg standard scenario game does not work w/ the new beta. Not a biggie since I had made way too many stupid mistakes anyway[:)]

2. The beta for above scenario now has Sumner and not McClellan as the union army commander. This is a more historical representation of Sumner being commander on the field with McClelland remaining at Yorktown[8D].
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Jim/Bismarck,
Since this is a beta version I believe that the version number was deliberately omitted.

oldspec4,
You are correct about Sumner. Making that change was something that somehow slipped through the cracks before release -- Sumner should indeed be running the battle, and already at his HQ, but I failed to take care of that before. McClellan did not appear at the battlefield until around 5:00. We originally planned to have him arrive and take over, but there is no code that lets a new general take over an army/corps/division from another (short of death or wounding), and it makes no sense for Eric to spend multiple days adding such code just so McClellan can show up for the final few turns. If ever I do a scenario that starts in the later afternoon he can be in command, though.

As for your save being broken, that must be from one of the changes I made to the scenario file, though I'm not sure which. Quite possibly getting rid of McClellan. Who I guess is still causing trouble after all these years...
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Well, I've only had a couple of turns with the new beta patch, but I must say, I am over the moon with it! The zoom option and the formation designations on the chits are worth their weight in Gold. Almost all of my original gripes have been answered swiftly and with consideration. Thanks for all your hard work with this title. You had me when the smoke started, but now I can play it at a decent visual level with more immersion, and I can tell a lot more from the chits, plus the smoke stays after a save game. Keep up the good work folks!
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Hi Jim,
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As a reviewer, please make the build version clear on an intro page.

It's a bit subtle, but you should be able to see it on the top right corner of the splash screen when the game loads.

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I agree with spelk. Kudos on the patch. Many of the irritants I found in playing the game have been replaced with more user-friendly graphics and buttons.

Thanks!
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ORIGINAL: spelk
Well, I've only had a couple of turns with the new beta patch, but I must say, I am over the moon with it! The zoom option and the formation designations on the chits are worth their weight in Gold. Almost all of my original gripes have been answered swiftly and with consideration. Thanks for all your hard work with this title. You had me when the smoke started, but now I can play it at a decent visual level with more immersion, and I can tell a lot more from the chits, plus the smoke stays after a save game. Keep up the good work folks!

Great to hear! Thank you for the feedback.

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Do I assume correctly that 1.02 Beta will not become official version and instead will be replaced by 1.03 when it becomes official?
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For this latest beta, 1.03 - No Zoc fix?
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Question regarding the option not to zoom out during combat resolution. Do I have to re-set to off every time I open the game?, i.e., I set to off in the options but it reverts to on when opening a saved game. Is this WAD?
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Michael T,
You missed my post#27, in which I said it's there, but was left out of the list of changes

Yogi the Great,
It is my understanding that 1.02 will come out first. It's been delayed by the May 1 holiday in Europe, among other factors.
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Im sure it was really all of us. TBH i think a lot of people who play this game still do not know what the hell is going on (thats a good thing)

Sorry-either drunk or quote didnt work right. This was a reply to Gil saying units in enemy zoc ooc has been fixed.
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If "Drunk History" can be a thing, why not "Drunk Wargame Assessment"? [:)]
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