Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition
ORIGINAL: Mundy
Maybe I could scrub everything and land 6-8 divisions at Ceylon.
ORIGINAL: Mundy
I have plenty of LBA in range. Unfortunately, with the supply situation, the P-38s can't use external fuel at most of the bases.
The supply situation there has me perplexed. I've been looking at oil, then wondered if resources were the bottleneck, but it doesn't appear so. All the hungry US units are out of country, too.
My current carrier could probably support such a move. Keeping troops supplied after landing them may be an issue.
Submarine attack near Carnarvon at 47,136
Japanese Ships
SS I-158, hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
DD Ralph Talbot
CL Cleveland
CL Honolulu
CLAA Atlanta
DD Stack
DD Nepal
DD Dale
DD Case
SS I-158 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Ralph Talbot
I-158 diving deep ....
DD Nepal fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dale fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Case fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Nepal fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Dale attacking submerged sub ....
DD Case fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dale fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Case attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-158 forced to surface!
DD Nepal firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Nepal firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Dale firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Case firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Nepal firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Dale firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Case firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Nepal firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Dale firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Case firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Nepal firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Dale firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Case firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves
Pre-Invasion action off Nadi (131,160) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
107 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato
DD Hatsuyuki
xAK Melbourne Maru
DD Murakumo
xAK Seattle Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Azuma Maru
AMC Gokoku Maru
Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
BB Mutsu firing at 2nd Marine Defense Battalion
2nd Marine Defense Battalion firing at BB Mutsu
BB Nagato firing at 3rd Marine Defense Battalion
3rd Marine Defense Battalion firing at BB Nagato
2nd Marine Defense Battalion firing at DD Hatsuyuki
DD Hatsuyuki firing at 2nd Marine Defense Battalion
5in Mk 15 CD Gun Battery engaging xAK Melbourne Maru at 11,000 yards
BB Mutsu firing to suppress enemy battery at 11,000 yards
5in Mk 15 CD Gun Battery engaging xAK Seattle Maru at 11,000 yards
BB Mutsu firing to suppress enemy battery at 11,000 yards
5in Mk 15 CD Gun Battery engaging xAK Azuma Maru at 11,000 yards
BB Nagato firing to suppress enemy battery at 11,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards
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Pre-Invasion action off Nadi (131,160) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
123 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
DD Tadeyame
DD Suruyame
AMC Kiyosumi Maru
Japanese ground losses:
65 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
3rd Marine Defense Battalion firing at BB Hyuga
BB Hyuga firing at 3rd Marine Defense Battalion
3rd Marine Defense Battalion firing at BB Ise
BB Ise firing at 3rd Marine Defense Battalion
2nd Marine Defense Battalion firing at DD Tadeyame
DD Tadeyame firing at 2nd Marine Defense Battalion
DD Suruyame firing at 2nd Marine Defense Battalion
2nd Marine Defense Battalion firing at DD Suruyame
DD Tadeyame fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards
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Invasion Support action off Nadi (131,160) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
86 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato
DD Hatsuyuki
xAK Azuma Maru
E Tomozuru
xAK Melbourne Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Seattle Maru, Shell hits 1
AMC Gokoku Maru
DD Murakumo
Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
2nd Marine Defense Battalion firing at BB Mutsu
BB Mutsu firing at 2nd Marine Defense Battalion
2nd Marine Defense Battalion firing at DD Hatsuyuki
5in Mk 15 CD Gun Battery engaging xAK Azuma Maru at 7,000 yards
BB Mutsu firing to suppress enemy battery at 7,000 yards
5in Mk 15 CD Gun Battery engaging xAK Melbourne Maru at 7,000 yards
BB Nagato firing to suppress enemy battery at 7,000 yards
5in Mk 15 CD Gun Battery engaging xAK Seattle Maru at 7,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards
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Invasion Support action off Nadi (131,160) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
131 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
DD Tadeyame
DD Suruyame
DD Shikinami
xAK Hokkai Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Tagonami
xAP Ohtaka Maru, Shell hits 1
AMC Kiyosumi Maru
Japanese ground losses:
136 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
2nd Marine Defense Battalion firing at BB Hyuga
BB Hyuga firing at 2nd Marine Defense Battalion
3rd Marine Defense Battalion firing at DD Shikinami
DD Shikinami firing at 3rd Marine Defense Battalion
5in Mk 15 CD Gun Battery engaging xAK Hokkai Maru at 6,000 yards
BB Ise firing to suppress enemy battery at 6,000 yards
5in Mk 15 CD Gun Battery engaging xAK Hokkai Maru at 6,000 yards
BB Hyuga firing to suppress enemy battery at 6,000 yards
5in Mk 15 CD Gun Battery engaging xAP Ohtaka Maru at 6,000 yards
BB Ise firing to suppress enemy battery at 6,000 yards
5in Mk 15 CD Gun Battery engaging xAK Hokkai Maru at 6,000 yards
BB Ise firing to suppress enemy battery at 6,000 yards
DD Tadeyame fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards
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Amphibious Assault at Nadi (131,160)
TF 31 troops unloading over beach at Nadi, 131,160
Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
15 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 63rd Div /5
15 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 63rd Div /8
17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost in surf during unload of 63rd Div /9
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Amphibious Assault at Nadi (131,160)
TF 71 troops unloading over beach at Nadi, 131,160
Japanese ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 36th Div /1
17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost in surf during unload of 36th Div /5
17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 36th Div /9
17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 36th Div /10
Ground combat at Nadi (131,160)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 23772 troops, 187 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 750
Defending force 7573 troops, 134 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 156
Japanese adjusted assault: 1001
Allied adjusted defense: 87
Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Nadi !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
721 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 67 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Allied ground losses:
2577 casualties reported
Squads: 36 destroyed, 57 disabled
Non Combat: 126 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 28 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 89 (77 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 6
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
63rd Division
36th Division
17th Army
Defending units:
Fiji Brigade
3rd Marine Defense Battalion
2nd RNZAF Base Force
2nd Marine Defense Battalion
1st RNZAF Base Force
Nandi Base Force
Ya...I warned you about going to close to Exmouth. Should have headed west way into the open ocean before heading north but too late for that now. Also, I you need to be worried more about the mini-KB as that is likely lurking near the DEI in reserve. As for putting your invasion armada off map, that is a huge overreaction. Yes keeping them in forward bases like you have done is a bad idea but there are plenty of other places to put them. The underside of Australia is a pretty good place to keep naval units in strategic reserve as the Japanese are unlikely to be paying attention to anything between Perth and Melbourne.ORIGINAL: Mundy
My carriers got spotted while still SW of Exmouth. I'll keep the abort option on a hair trigger right now, if things don't feel right. At full bore, KB would be about 5 days steaming away, probably ditching any escorts to do it. They haven't hit any land targets at Suva, and their hanging to the south about 3 hexes. If my subs are left alone and I get no more search sightings, I'll know they've left. I'm toying with the idea of keeping the entire invasion armada (transports, battleships, carriers, escorts, etc) off map at Cape Town. With Cannonfodder's aggressive streak lately, I'm not feeling very secure anywhere.
Ya, Ceylon isn't a bad place to attack but I don't think you should be shipping a bunch of units from Perth to India. Maybe a couple of divisions right now but you need a good defense of Australia. I'd also rail over some divisions from Perth to places like Sydney to get your defenses in place before an actual invasion. The one bad thing about an invasion of Ceylon is that if you bring CVs and there is a big battle, you have nowhere to go for shipyard repairs except Cape Town which is a long ways away.ORIGINAL: Mundy
Maybe I could scrub everything and land 6-8 divisions at Ceylon. I've got some thinking to do right now. Barring the Aleutians, I'm not indulging in any offensive before the fall, and I don't want to leave anything hanging out to dry like Suva. I'm okay with the heavy troop concentrations at Perth right now. If he were to land on the east coast of Australia, I can rail stuff over fairly quickly. I may not stop anyone on the beaches, but I can get a line up before he moves too far. I've been populating some of the lesser bases there with some form of troops, including coast artillery. If he lands at Perth, he'll regret it. Even Geraldton's an armed camp.
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Just started reading your AAR...great job!
Could you post some theatre pictures so us latecomers can get a grasp on the strategic situation?
I read CF's AAr with great interest, but I will switch sides now.[:D]
I think that is a smart move. CF is probably going to try to achieve some sort of decisive victory to prempt the huge buildup of CVs that will give you CV parity by late 44. Japan is still on the offensive.ORIGINAL: Mundy
Since I'm staying put for the next six month, I'll take the invasion forces off the hair trigger. I'm going to keep a fairly strong presence at Geraldton-Perth-Busselton, just because I've had prep warnings for the west coast. The rest, I'll distribute mostly to the lesser bases on the east side. If CF makes a move on Australia, I doubt he'll sail straight into one of the major bases. He handles Suva in a similar fashion, so I don't see that changing here.
My thoughts are that by now you need to have your carriers and amphib forces in a more central position to respond to threats or to take offensive action. Pearl Harbor is on the far eastern area of operations. Pago Pago is probably not safe anymore but surely a place like Christmas Island is safe and closer to where you actually need them. Should an opportunity arise in the Gilberts it will be take less time if you stage from Xmas island than from Pearl Harbor. You don't need to put your fleets in large ports like Pearl Harbor or Perth when they are fully armed. Also, you definitely do need recon planes in Australia but the USAAF Lightning derivatives are also good options if you can't get PB4Ys with cameras.ORIGINAL: Mundy
I'll run my amphibs back to Pearl for now. Maybe my carriers too. I'll keep my options open regarding targets of opportunity. I'd like to get a camera equipped PB4Y squadron over to Australia. On the face of it, CF probably has a lot of troops tied up between Port Moresby, Noumea and Suva. PM has something like 28,000 troops there. I know two full divisions are at Suva. Noumea's a question mark. My offhand guess is two divisions there, too. Should KB decide to head to India or something, taking one of these back could be useful. Likewise, I have couple divisions worth of troops at 100% prep for a Gilberts adventure.
ORIGINAL: Mundy
I'll have to get more troops to Christmas, as it's fairly lightly defended right now. It's probably a better place to stage the Gilberts/Marshalls thing from anyway, though I'll have to watch the stacking limit. I seem to recall it being in the 30,000 range.
I'm using my other game to take out my aggression on.
Morning Air attack on Exmouth , at 50,129
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 51
SBD-3 Dauntless x 73
TBF-1 Avenger x 53
Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 20
Port hits 7
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
17 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
7 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Exmouth , at 50,129
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 9
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 10
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 9
Port hits 4
Aircraft Attacking:
10 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x Mitchell II bombing from 6000 feet *
Port Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Exmouth , at 50,129
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 3
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Mitchell II bombing from 6000 feet *
Port Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
Morning Air attack on 11th Militia Regiment, at 50,129 (Exmouth)
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 12
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Mitchell II bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
Also attacking 14th JAAF AF Bn ...
Also attacking 11th Militia Regiment ...
ORIGINAL: Mundy
30 March 1943
Back in action.
I'm working on getting Christmas Island better setup. The USA 43rd Division is on a 16 kt convoy to there. To compensate, I'll have to remove some of the base units to keep within stacking limits. I don't need over 1,000 air support anyway. I'd just been stashing units there anyway to relive Pearl Harbor's stacking situation. This should help ease my security concerns for Christmas.
Once Attu is dealt with, I'm toying with the idea of an adventure further west. Paramushiro-jima looks to be a level 5 airfield right now. To do this, I'd have to bank on the fact that he may have skimped a bit on home air defense, which may or may not be likely. I'd probably need my AKVs for instant air there. I have more than enough base forces to set something up quickly. I have 30 Seabee battalions alone in San Francisco.
Suva eats another bombardment, though combat unit casualties were quite light. Seadragon takes a shot at Hiei, but misses. She gets pounded badly in return, so she'll need serious drydock time. I'm watching that area closely. If I see any indication that KB is departing the area, I may send the USN BBs in
Two big tanker convoys are at Perth, unloading about 270,000 worth of fuel. My carriers are a day away. They'll join up with all the CVEs and head east. Yesterday, the carriers took a second swipe at Exmouth, with further raids by Mitchells today.
Morning Air attack on Exmouth , at 50,129
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 51
SBD-3 Dauntless x 73
TBF-1 Avenger x 53
Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 20
Port hits 7
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
17 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
7 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Exmouth , at 50,129
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 9
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 10
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 9
Port hits 4
Aircraft Attacking:
10 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x Mitchell II bombing from 6000 feet *
Port Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Exmouth , at 50,129
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 3
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Mitchell II bombing from 6000 feet *
Port Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP BombMorning Air attack on 11th Militia Regiment, at 50,129 (Exmouth)
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 12
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Mitchell II bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
Also attacking 14th JAAF AF Bn ...
Also attacking 11th Militia Regiment ...
That's cute... a militia regiment guarding Exmouth.
Regardless, I'm spreading my combat power around the east coast. There won't be a landing site without a credible amount of combat power waiting there.
Don't worry about stacking so much. It's just a supply cost. For you that's not a concern. Don't pull out base units just to stay under stacking.ORIGINAL: Mundy
I'm working on getting Christmas Island better setup. The USA 43rd Division is on a 16 kt convoy to there. To compensate, I'll have to remove some of the base units to keep within stacking limits. I don't need over 1,000 air support anyway. I'd just been stashing units there anyway to relive Pearl Harbor's stacking situation. This should help ease my security concerns for Christmas.
Why aren't these guys out in the Pacific building up your bases? Why on earth are you stockpiling them in San Francisco?ORIGINAL: Mundy
I have 30 Seabee battalions alone in San Francisco.
Not sure if that is wise. A credible amount of combat power is still going to get routed by a major landing. You can't be strong everywhere at once. If CF is anything he is careful. The easiest battle for Japan invading Australia is likely to be the landing where his units will be 100% prepped. Its the subsequent battles that really matter.ORIGINAL: Mundy
Regardless, I'm spreading my combat power around the east coast. There won't be a landing site without a credible amount of combat power waiting there.
ORIGINAL: Wargmr
My thoughts on Australia...
Australia is a continent and maneuver warfare is king.
If your opponent is attacking Australia it really extends his line of supply so this is a good thing.
The problem with defending western australia is the danger of being cut off at Port Augusta. If units get caught in the western half they cannot reinforce the east without amphibious movement.
You have no terrain bonuses on that half of the continent and other than VP points there is little gain for the Japanese player except the industry at Perth.
If VP's are off the table I would forget about western Australia and let him have it if he wants.
Concentrate forces near Sydney/Perth where the terrain is to your advantage and his supply lines are extended even further and you gain a lot of advantage.
You can see my game in progress where NJP attacked Australia and how I am getting out of it. It seems he has about 80K troops almost cut off but he still owns the rail lines to western Australia and there has been a lot of ship movement up there. The flip side is that any Japanese forces caught in the open are subject to murderous 4EB LBA from the allies.
One of the hardest things for an AFB IMO is patience. Let him overextend and then make him pay for it!!
