Are you really happy with this game ? YES I AM

From the legendary team at 2 by 3 Games comes a new grand strategy masterpiece: Gary Grigsby’s War Between the States. Taking gamers back to the American Civil War, this innovative grand strategy game allows players to experience the trials and tribulations of the role of commander-in-chief for either side. Historically accurate, detailed and finely balanced for realistic gameplay, War Between the States is also easy to play and does not take months to finish.

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ORIGINAL: GShock

It's not a malus it's a must to know how to use if enabled. The AI knows how to use it, so if you can't use it, better turn it off or you'll play at disadvantage.

No Gshock, that wasn't my point.

My point was that CSC rule could be a bonus for the CSA as they had on average better leaders historically (at beginning of the war for sure).

F.e. a Union corps can have a crack corps commander, but at average more crappy division commanders, in relation with a Confederate corps that has also a crack corps commander, but at average better division commanders.

So my question is - are the Confederate generals at average better ? So indeed giving the confederate trooper - ON AVERAGE - a higher bonus in battle ?
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I'd say the CSA has better leaders 1861-1862 at the Army and Corps level. The leadership gap starts to shrink by 1863 if the Union player is doing his job right in developing his better leaders. I think the CSA still has an edge in the late war if they've played their cards right and not had any unlucky casualty rolls, but it's not as significant, and by the late war they need all the help they can get usually.
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I would agree with Erik and add that I think the leadership difference at the division level (CSC's) is not as great as it is at the higher levels. In fact, there may be little difference at that level, although I haven't done a full analysis of the leaders in the database and those that generally get activated.
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I hereby declare to be happy with this game - so I changed the title, [:)][:D]
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More and more, now that I understand it better (and have the benefit of the recent patch).

Also helps to throw a few extra Civil War tunes into the music folder (i.e., Ashokan Farewell, and the theme to the Gettysburg movie).

I am still clueless about Supply rules; I just sort of sense that I should spend half to 2/3ds my production on supply or things slow down.
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We could really use some mods and modders for the game. Not only the sound mods, but also a good leader mod adding more, even with fantasy names, colonels to help building the CSC structure properly. For the moment, we only have the excellent Bo's alternative icons. [:)]
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Texican -

Regarding the amount of supply, I look at how much I spent last turn. (Press the 'E' key).
Depending on how many unit's I'm building, add a bit to that.
And look a how much I have 'in the bank'. each factory builds 10 supply, so with
that info I can determine how much supply i need to build.
consider how much you'll need for building forts/depots
I like to keep some extra for emergencies.

(perhaps you already know the above, and are talking about stuff like the comment below,
which I have made elsewhere)

As the union, I don't like to build a bunch of artillery I can't command when using the Corps commander rule,so might as well quite a few factories. I build around 15 on the 1st turn. (actually I could build more, but don't really need to right away) This may be a mistake, I end up with plenty of supply even when building boats at every opportunity. I could build more artillery and use the extras in defense. I hate getting my guns captured for lack of command. I'd rather get good infantry commanders than the lousy artillery commanders until I can command all the infantry i need to.
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You may very well attach arty to infantry leaders, John...they're sometimes better than arty leaders themselves. [:)]
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ORIGINAL: spruce



And I highly question the ratings of Union leaders ! Grant nearly gets the same ratings as Lee - that's a joke.


Reading through this old thread to glean some info about supply, I came across this. I think this is what makes the ACW so fascinating. 150+ years later we're still arguing about who is the better general.
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