Pelton(GHC) vs Pitman Resigned GHC Victory T-15

[Peltonx]

Turn 2 GHC Armaments: 90,000 Manpower: 31,000

HQBUs used:
Armament Pts Destroyed =4
Heavy Industry Destroyed = 4
Manpower Pts over run during 1942 =
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp:
Divisions:
Brigades:
SU:
AP total:
Russian OOB: 3,530,000

AGN, OMG stacks and stacks of Russian!!! I cross the river, but Pitman is all in and there is nothing behind the front lines.

[Peltonx]

AGC its early so I am going for the industry crunch so I take some chances early.

[Peltonx]

AGS has a nice advance going and a small pocket is formed near Romanian.

[richter53]

The interface for your game looks different from mine.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: richter53

The interface for your game looks different from mine.

Its in this thread

tm.asp?m=3327255

[Peltonx]

Turn 3 GHC Armaments: 90,000 Manpower: 28,000

HQBUs used:
Armament Pts Destroyed = 10
Heavy Industry Destroyed = 10
Manpower Pts over run during 1942 =
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp:
Divisions:
Brigades:
SU:
AP total:
Russian OOB: 3,670,000

AGN gets pushed back across the river and faces a 20+ CV wall, but 4th PG manages to push just to south of the wall.
Pitman is all in fighting forward the same crazy style as TDV, this could be a very interesting game.

[Peltonx]

AGC panzer get cut off, this is going to be bad for a few turns.

Again Pitman is very aggressive, using allot of cav units to push between my divisions. I am guessing like TDV he is spending his APs on cav divisions

[Peltonx]

AGS finishes of the small pocket formed turn 2 and forms 2 more pockets, both with 10-12 units.

Fighting forward in the south so early is generally not a good idea.

[M60A3TTS]

Cavalry divs are 20AP a pop early on. But in 1941 the Soviets can conserve APs if they don't go crazy on other stuff.

[chaos45]

Been playing around with first couple turns for the Soviets myself, I dont think he has built and sent a cavalry division into the front.

Maybe he pulled one from somewhere but highly doubt its a newly created one. Can think of a ton of better things for the Soviets to spend APs on early.

Support units for one.....and second is re-organizing you army after the messy state that the initial attack leaves you. I have found that no matter what year I start the game in re-oganizing the Army of either side take almost a full year of Admin points especially when emergency relocations/admin costs of moving divisions between commands is accounted for. Then you have to completely re-arrange support units in many instances.

Not to mention the amount of dud generals that need replaced on both sides. Was amazed at the amount of skill 4-5 German generals in the infantry corps in 41, and its telling I figured it out because I was getting annoyed at failure in some sectors then looked at the commanders and was like ohh thats why.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

Cavalry divs are 20AP a pop early on. But in 1941 the Soviets can conserve APs if they don't go crazy on other stuff.

You never played TDV, best games I have played two date by a long shot.

He is completely out side the box as am I.

Might try and see if he is interested in a 3rd game

[Blubel]

They can't be new ones, as new ones are frozen for a few (2 or 4?) turns and you are just at turn 3.

[M60A3TTS]

Cav divs are actually 40AP in the beginning, so these have to be regular ones

[Pitaman]

I should not have tried to defend in the south as hard as I did. Pelton sent two panzer divisions to Rumania and that caught me off guard. I will know better next game.

Pitaman.

[821Bobo]

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

Cav divs are actually 40AP in the beginning, so these have to be regular ones

True. I fool did build 3 in October for 40AP and from November they cost 20AP [:@]

[Peltonx]

Turn 4 GHC Armaments: 90,000 Manpower: 28,000

HQBUs used:
Armament Pts Destroyed = 10
Heavy Industry Destroyed = 10
Manpower Pts over run during 1942 =
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp:
Divisions:
Brigades:
SU:
AP total:
Russian OOB: 3,389,000
AGN forms a pocket near Pskov. Pitman is all forward with next to nothing behind the front lines.

[Peltonx]

AGC is bogged down for now.

[Peltonx]

AGS forms another pocket of 13 divisions and panzer cross the river. Pitman is doing a good job of moving industry, but taking huge losses early.

[Peltonx]

Turn 5 GHC Armaments: 85,000 Manpower: 26,000

HQBUs used: 1
Armament Pts Destroyed = 20
Heavy Industry Destroyed = 12
Manpower Pts over run during 1942 =
Russian Units Destroyed after November 1st 1941
Corp:
Divisions:
Brigades:
SU:
AP total:
Stavka OOB: 3,999,000
AGN has the pocket broken, so it’s resealed and a few infantry divisions get a breakthrough just below the heavy fighting. Pitman is getting very high CV despite heavy losses, I am impressed. But his all forward fighting is costing him and at some point his army will simply fall apart. I am not going to get an industry KO, but I take the next best thing destruction of the Red Army.

[Peltonx]

AGC finally disengages its panzers and infantry finally get to the front. I be looking to pocket whatever I can or do a left hook around the land bridge.