Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy(A) vs KenchiSulla (J)

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I'm not sure what to send yet.  Considering that Fuso and Yamashiro just made a 7-8 hex dash to Madras last turn, most of the single engine stuff may be impotent.  Good thing I guessed right and pulled the planes out the day before.  I've got a bunch of base forces at and heading to Cochin.  It's level 5, and I can run my Colombo harassment out of there.  60,000 in supply helps, too.  I wish I could draw some supply away from Madras to more deserving locations.  I have a similar amount of supply there.  about 45k are unloading at Karachi now.
 
I'm thinking of maybe populating about three neighboring islands simultaneously.  That could help at least catch bombardment groups as they leave, at least.
 
My carriers reached Sydney last turn.  Lexington and Saratoga need two days in the yard.  Saratoga now has F6Fs on board, with two left in the pool.  Transports and five battleships will reach next turn.  If I know KB has departed it may be worth a shot -- maybe dump Americal on Suva in the bargain.  Intel shows more troops inbound to Nadi.  How far out, who knows.
 
Good to see Cannonfodder's AAR still lives.  I'll enjoy reading it when this wraps up.
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I'm not sure what to send yet.  Considering that Fuso and Yamashiro just made a 7-8 hex dash to Madras last turn, most of the single engine stuff may be impotent.  Good thing I guessed right and pulled the planes out the day before.  I've got a bunch of base forces at and heading to Cochin.  It's level 5, and I can run my Colombo harassment out of there.  60,000 in supply helps, too.  I wish I could draw some supply away from Madras to more deserving locations.  I have a similar amount of supply there.  about 45k are unloading at Karachi now.

I'm thinking of maybe populating about three neighboring islands simultaneously.  That could help at least catch bombardment groups as they leave, at least.

My carriers reached Sydney last turn.  Lexington and Saratoga need two days in the yard.  Saratoga now has F6Fs on board, with two left in the pool.  Transports and five battleships will reach next turn.  If I know KB has departed it may be worth a shot -- maybe dump Americal on Suva in the bargain.  Intel shows more troops inbound to Nadi.  How far out, who knows.

Good to see Cannonfodder's AAR still lives.  I'll enjoy reading it when this wraps up.

I am confused as to why you are having supply issues in India. Set up a few CS runs from Abadan to Karachi carrying fuel and supplies and you should be flush with both shortly.

As to a base to use against Ceylon, I recommend sending some base force troops and construction engineers to Madurai to build that base up. It is very close to Ceylon yet inland so completely safe from bombardments. He has to land forces on India to capture or stop it.

NJP likes to beat me up against the Indian Coast when I deploy troops there.
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I don't know why either.  I have something like 1.5 million in fuel sitting between Karachi and Bombay.  I believe nothing is turned off, but I'll double check.  On the previous page, I linked some tracker files in case some genius could make sense of it.  Abadan's dry for now supply-wise, as I've kept xAK convoys going in addition to tankers.  Ditto for Aden.  I'm also keeping regular runs from Cape Town.  It feels like band aid after band aid.
 
I do have engineers working at Madurai, but it just needs some time.  If supplies don't flow there, it'll be a problem.  I'm also moving a bunch of replenished Indian and UK divisions to the base two hexes NE of there, in case he tries something.  The problem with Cochin is that I'd probably get zero warning of a bombardment mission, so it's probably a one-trick pony.  If I get enough fighters there, I could probably stage the two remaining RN battleships there -- make them actively useful.  Recon seems to indicate he's pulled back a bit on the airpower at Colombo.
 
More base forces are inbound from Aden, now docked at Karachi to help out.  Two transports got hit by a sub along the north map edge, so they may be weaker than intended.  I'm skimping on escorts at that end, as I've focused most of my destroyers on the Cape Town routes.
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I find Abadan runs short of supplies very quickly if you set up CS TFs from it.

I only use player controlled TFs for supply from Abadan as you have to stand them down for a while sometimes.

Aden becomes a far better source of supply although you need to ship fuel to it from Aden for it to handle the traffic.

Aden is low on supply at start but ramps up better than Abadan.
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I don't know why either.  I have something like 1.5 million in fuel sitting between Karachi and Bombay.  I believe nothing is turned off, but I'll double check.  On the previous page, I linked some tracker files in case some genius could make sense of it.  Abadan's dry for now supply-wise, as I've kept xAK convoys going in addition to tankers.  Ditto for Aden.  I'm also keeping regular runs from Cape Town.  It feels like band aid after band aid.

I do have engineers working at Madurai, but it just needs some time.  If supplies don't flow there, it'll be a problem.  I'm also moving a bunch of replenished Indian and UK divisions to the base two hexes NE of there, in case he tries something.  The problem with Cochin is that I'd probably get zero warning of a bombardment mission, so it's probably a one-trick pony.  If I get enough fighters there, I could probably stage the two remaining RN battleships there -- make them actively useful.  Recon seems to indicate he's pulled back a bit on the airpower at Colombo.

More base forces are inbound from Aden, now docked at Karachi to help out.  Two transports got hit by a sub along the north map edge, so they may be weaker than intended.  I'm skimping on escorts at that end, as I've focused most of my destroyers on the Cape Town routes.

I am not sure the total of your knowledge so lets go back to basics.

First of all, having a huge stockpile of supply somewhere does not help you one bit. Most bases will keep minimum supply. What was frustrating to me at first was it seemed that the bases never had supply. However, bases dont usually need supply. They need to get it to the units nearby that use it.

So, as long as your units are supplied, do not focus on actual stockpiles at any one location.

If you want a stockpile at a specific place you can manually up the amount there on the base screen. it is usually 3* whatever you set it at so 1000 will get you 3000 supply, 10,000 setting will get you 30,000 supply. If it isnt going up then send a top HQ (command?) to the base. The computer tries to maintain 25,000 supplies at any base with a command unit for resupply purposes.


More importantly, what is your overall strategic plan? I havent been paying close enough attention to your situation. Do you have naval superiority yet?
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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

I find Abadan runs short of supplies very quickly if you set up CS TFs from it.

I only use player controlled TFs for supply from Abadan as you have to stand them down for a while sometimes.

Aden becomes a far better source of supply although you need to ship fuel to it from Aden for it to handle the traffic.

Aden is low on supply at start but ramps up better than Abadan.

If he doesnt have any supply in india, it wont do him much good to have hundreds of thousands stocked in Abadan. Yes, it runs out quickly but the turnaround time for ships is really quick.
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I emptied Abadan out fairly quickly.  I think its replenishment rate is something like 500 per day, so I've been down to a convoy a month from here.  Likewise, I've run Aden down too.

Despite base supply in India being minimal, my LCUs seem to be fully supplied themselves, from what I can tell.  I was wondering if all my US and UK beat up divisions were drawing a bunch of supply in rebuilding.  Lots of these units are out of country now, but my interior bases are still pretty sparse.  All the well supplied spots are on the coast.

I've opened up the demand on all the intervening Indian bases, hoping that helps the pipeline, but it doesn't seem to have worked much.

Any real grand strategy is on hold for now.  He still rules the seas.  I have three fleet carriers and 8 CVEs, with more inbound.  They're all at Sydney.  I've been tempted to confront KB with them, hoping all the jeep carriers would diffuse his effort.  In a prior game, I completely wiped out KB in a similar situation.

Any offense right now is in the far north.  A mountain regiment bound for Amchitka is loading up on Adak.  This spot appears to be unoccupied, so it should go quickly.  The Attu force will be loading up shortly, probably next turn. 

The USA 43rd Division is unloading at Christmas Is.  The same convoy will pull a bunch of base forces off to deal with the overstacking.  I have way too much there anyway and can send them to one of the islands near Pago Pago.  I'd like 3-5 interlocking bases set up there fairly soon.

All my other PBEMs seem to have been run by fairly conservative IJN players, so it's greatly tainted my mindset.  I'm doing things now that I wouldn't have considered in prior games, and will probably accomplish earlier in any new ones.  I honestly don't mind getting beat up like this, as I'm learning quite a bit from it.
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I'm not sure what to send yet.  Considering that Fuso and Yamashiro just made a 7-8 hex dash to Madras last turn, most of the single engine stuff may be impotent.  Good thing I guessed right and pulled the planes out the day before.  I've got a bunch of base forces at and heading to Cochin.
Yea, night naval bombardment makes most single engine planes not very useful for naval strike. Cruisers can bombard from 9 hexes which makes it even more difficult to find suitable planes. That being said, by spring 43 you should be getting some decent air frames that can counter bombardment fleets. For the Commonwealth forces the Beaufighter is an excellent plane. The fighter-bomber variants are good long range escort planes and the torpedoes bombers variants can drop torps at range 8 to counter BB bombardments. For the US you can use USN fighters with drop tanks for escort. The A-24B is a great dive bomber with an normal range of 9 which gives you the ability to counter cruiser bombardments. And there are probably more I'm forgetting since you're like 3 months ahead of me.
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I don't know why either.  I have something like 1.5 million in fuel sitting between Karachi and Bombay.  I believe nothing is turned off, but I'll double check.  On the previous page, I linked some tracker files in case some genius could make sense of it.  Abadan's dry for now supply-wise, as I've kept xAK convoys going in addition to tankers.  Ditto for Aden.  I'm also keeping regular runs from Cape Town.  It feels like band aid after band aid.
It sounds like to me you aren't shipping enough supply from Cape Town. How many xAKs do you have for this task? No reason you can't have 200+ ships on this convoy route. That's hardly a "band aid"; its a real solution. Stop sending xAKs to Abadan and Aden and send them Cape Town instead. Frankly I never send ANY xAKs to Abadan and I never use Aden as a supply source. As you have found out neither "A" base gets much supply but Cape Town gets plenty.
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Do you have naval superiority yet?
Japanese still have a large edge at sea. Allies have lost 3-4 CVs and the Japanese haven't lost any I believe. Would be curious to see a recap of important ships lost on both sides, however.
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Aden needs to keep some supplies to load on TFs that are taking reinforcement units from there to anywhere on-map. I use 100K as my minimum supply stock for Aden. A lot of that can go when a division is moved out.
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Aden needs to keep some supplies to load on TFs that are taking reinforcement units from there to anywhere on-map. I use 100K as my minimum supply stock for Aden. A lot of that can go when a division is moved out.

I would agree after 43-05-14 which is when the Mediterranean opens; before that date, I prefer to send them "troops only" if out of supply.

That said, I would always be sure that Aden has enough fuel
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15 April 1943

Well, I found out where KB is.
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hilo at 181,122

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 36
B5N2 Kate x 51
B6N1 Jill x 17
D4Y1 Judy x 80

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 5 damaged
B6N1 Jill: 2 damaged
B6N1 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak
D4Y1 Judy: 16 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
BB Colorado, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Russell
BB Massachusetts, Bomb hits 2
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
APA American Legion, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
APA Hunter Liggett, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA Salt Lake City
CA Astoria
APA President Jackson, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Morris
DD Walke
CA Minneapolis
APA President Adams
DD Mustin
DD Barton, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

Allied ground losses:
139 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 27 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (7 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 54 (49 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
12 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
15 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
11 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
3 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
13 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
16 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
20 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
16 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
1 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BB West Virginia
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Barton


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hilo at 181,122

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
BB West Virginia, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hilo at 186,126

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 22
B5N2 Kate x 53
D4Y1 Judy x 48

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
xAP Nathaniel Bowditch, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
DD Woodworth, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAP Louis Joliet, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK George Chaffey, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
xAK George S. Boutwell
xAK Matthew P. Deady, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP William Dawes, Bomb hits 1
xAP William Windom, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Asphalion, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAP Morton M. McCarver, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Robert Morris
xAP Zachary Taylor, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP John Drake Sloat, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP William P. McArthur, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAK William S. Young, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Phoebe A. Hearst, Bomb hits 3, on fire
xAP Stephen J. Field, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP James Buchanan, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Robert J. Walker, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Samuel Adams
xAK City of Yokohama
DD Frazier, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
3095 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 85 destroyed, 89 disabled
Engineers: 95 destroyed, 37 disabled
Guns lost 34 (8 destroyed, 26 disabled)
Vehicles lost 96 (55 destroyed, 41 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
5 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
13 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg GP Bomb
25 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
8 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
6 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg GP Bomb
6 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg GP Bomb
7 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAP Nathaniel Bowditch
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAP Stephen J. Field
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Robert J. Walker
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Asphalion
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAP Morton M. McCarver
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Frazier

This is about 15 hexes south of Pearl Harbor. I took a lot of ground losses in this, as they were getting shipped to the Samoa area. Hopefully I can get payback on this. All my carriers departed Sydney, bound for Suva. Likewise, I had kicked off five battleships towards New Zealand for possible Suva use, and they're also making way to Suva/Nadi. I'm not worried about Betties at Noumea, as the fighter screen should mostly keep them at bay. If I can bag Yamato, it'll be worth it. I have other transports further along for Pago Pago which he missed well to the south. Hopefully, CF doesn't try something at Pearl, as my air strength is fairly weak right now.

My invaders are a hex away from Attu, so that'll be happening shortly.
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What is the status of the BBs attacked? speed in particular

could they still run away fast?
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Nothing overly serious -- worst in the 20s. Everyone can make around 20 kts. Everyone's on full speed back to Pearl. I think they'll probably get away, but I'm not so sure about the transports.
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16 April 1943

A reprieve.

No further attacks by KB on my ships this turn. I'm not sure if it's Cannonfodder's sense of mercy or if he feared treading too close to Pearl Harbor. He most likely doesn't realize how weak my air is there. I'll be rectifying that shortly. I'm hesitant to send anything south of Hawaii at this point. I've also recalled my carriers and battleships back to Sydney. With my luck, KB is making a beeline back to the Suva area. Intel Monkey needs to do his job and get me some intel.

My fourth A-36 squadron arrived in the East Coast, and they've all been sent west. In Australia, my US forces from India landed at Perth (two USA divisions, one USMC division, one USMC armored battalion and one USA regiment). They're headed to the Australian east coast. I can probably swamp any invasion at this point. Lots of the lesser bases have plenty of AV there.

My Colombo raid kicked off. A bit less than perfect, but damage was still done.
Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 31
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 36
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 35

Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38F Lightning: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (3 airborne, 15 on standby, 14 scrambling)
22 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 14 scrambling)
14 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
286 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (2 airborne, 13 on standby, 12 scrambling)
15 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 30
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 31
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 31

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 11
B-24D1 Liberator x 25
B-25C Mitchell x 21
B-25D1 Mitchell x 3
B-26 Marauder x 3
B-26B Marauder x 10
F4U-1 Corsair x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 1 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 3 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Bomb hits 9
APD Matsukaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 8
CL Kiso, Bomb hits 1
xAKL Tonegawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

Repair Shipyard hits 3
Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 31
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (18 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
18 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
14 plane(s) intercepting now.
15 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
286 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 10 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
15 planes vectored on to bombers



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Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 25
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 13
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 16

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3
B-25D1 Mitchell x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged


Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 1 plane(s) with no ordnance
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
1 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 plane(s) with no ordnance
Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
286 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
23 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 64 minutes
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 65 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 17
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 11
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
286 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 13
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 7
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 6 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
286 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 11
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 5
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed

Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
286 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 67 minutes
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 9
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
286 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 1
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet

CAP engaged:
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
286 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Colombo , at 29,48

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 15

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 15000 feet

Fuso and Yamashiro ate a lot of bomb hits. Nothing got past the deck, but some of the lighter armament got wrecked.

Landings are underway at Attu. My air did some damage to help.
Morning Air attack on 50th JNAF Coy , at 153,49 (Attu Island)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 13

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Ground Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Ground Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 82nd Naval Guard Unit ...
Also attacking 50th JNAF Coy ...


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Morning Air attack on 50th JNAF Coy , at 153,49 (Attu Island)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 50th JNAF Coy , at 153,49 (Attu Island)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-29 Hudson x 16

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x A-29 Hudson bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 50th JNAF Coy , at 153,49 (Attu Island)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-18A Bolo x 16

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 10000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
Morning Air attack on 82nd Naval Guard Unit, at 153,49 (Attu Island)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 3
PV-1 Ventura x 9

Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 82nd Naval Guard Unit, at 153,49 (Attu Island)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 82nd Naval Guard Unit, at 153,49 (Attu Island)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet *
Ground Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

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17 April 1943

A rough summation of the damage. About a dozen transports sunk. Two naval and the rest civilian, along with a goodly part of their contents.

Colorado is in the yard for 83 days. WeeVee for 24. Two other battleships will be out in 4 days. It could have been a lot worse.

I got a 1-1 attack on Attu. About a dozen casualties on my end while he gets a few hundred. I'll shock next turn.

I have base forces populating Madurai and Trichinopoly, and as expected are drawing hardly any supply, despite two big bases being just a few hexes away from each. Yes, I did up the request.

I've flipped Hornet's VF to F6Fs, though she and Lex will need time to fill them out.
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Did you lose a lot of ground troops with the transports? [:(] The BB damage doesn't seem bad at all. Much better than the combat report suggested.
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I was running mainly base forces and CB units around. Nothing combat, I think.
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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

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I think this battle shows the importance of securing lines of communication. Gotta try to get naval coverage along your convoy routes. And if there are open spots you can put patrol ships or subs to wait for planes to fly over them. Also, I don't think this was a full KB attack! IJN has a lot more CVs than 1941. The numbers on strike were too small.
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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

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18 April 1943

Attu falls. Good riddance.
Ground combat at Attu Island (153,49)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3840 troops, 84 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 178

Defending force 1176 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Allied adjusted assault: 146

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 146 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Attu Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1364 casualties reported
Squads: 81 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 82 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 17 (17 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
4th Marine Raider Battalion
50th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
58th (Sep) Infantry Rgt /1
154th Field Artillery Battalion
183rd Field Artillery Battalion
188th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
82nd Naval Guard Unit
50th JNAF Coy

I have lots of base forces at the two southernmost inshore bases in India, and they're getting hardly any supply. All the big costal bases have supply ranging from 40k to 90k. Cochin and Madras are practically across the street. I've maxed the request at any empty intervening locations.

Suva takes another bombardment. I think he's purposefully keeping KB quiet to lure me.
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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder

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Two things will help get supply to those Indian bases
- put lots of troops there
- build the base larger. Once it has level 3 in total development it should have enough draw that you do not need so many troops to get supply there.

Do you have a lot of new units filling out in India? That will consume a lot of supply too. I leave the new units arriving at Aden until they have filled out most of their TOE before moving them to India or wherever. Aden seems to draw whatever supply it needs to look after the newbies, and then some.
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