The Bitter End - Topeverest (A) vs Admiral Kamikaze (E)

[topeverest]

take a look at this. We might actually tango. My minor CV's and his main.

Big bucks no whammies

[BBfanboy]

The French ships were decent designs but France just did not have an electronics industry that could provide radar and fire control computers on par with the pre-war British and US developments. When French ships did join the allies they got the older equipment from upgrades. No one could match US computer assisted fire control in 1945.

[Sangeli]

What a dream come true if you could engage the man KB in the DEI instead of near Japan. Where are the rest of your CVs? Wherever they are they should be hightailing it to here. Let your secondary fleet bloody up the Japanese and send your main fleet in to feast on the survivors.

[topeverest]

YOu are soooo right. That ship also has no damage control relative to USA. Fires 23 to 42 despite 70 experience. go figure! It might as well be an empire. here is a picture. She will be a reef next turn. maybe it is 1942 and I don't know it?

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

The French ships were decent designs but France just did not have an electronics industry that could provide radar and fire control computers on par with the pre-war British and US developments. When French ships did join the allies they got the older equipment from upgrades. No one could match US computer assisted fire control in 1945.

[topeverest]

NO joy, the KB was taking a drink of fuel and high tailed away. did catch a transport / tanker TF there and scratched it.

ORIGINAL: Sangeli

What a dream come true if you could engage the man KB in the DEI instead of near Japan. Where are the rest of your CVs? Wherever they are they should be hightailing it to here. Let your secondary fleet bloody up the Japanese and send your main fleet in to feast on the survivors.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 64,97

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 16

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 88
Avenger III x 6
Corsair II x 31
Corsair IV x 28
Hellcat F.II x 8
Wildcat VI x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Avenger II: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Yamahuzi Maru, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Keihuku Maru, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Teika Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Teison Maru, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
E Otsu, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
E Urumi, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

[topeverest]

empire sent back several LBA sorties that actually broke through cap...no results.



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Bandjermasin at 62,102

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 117 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y3 Judy x 18

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 24
Corsair IV x 19
Hellcat F.II x 2
Wildcat VI x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y3 Judy: 8 destroyed
D4Y3 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
BB Arkansas

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.801 Sqn FAA with Corsair IV (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 14000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
No.880 Sqn FAA with Corsair II (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 14000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
No.896 Sqn FAA with Wildcat VI (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 14000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
No.800 Sqn FAA with Hellcat F.II (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 14000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
No.888 Sqn FAA with Corsair IV (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 14000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
No.1830 Sqn FAA with Corsair II (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(22 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 18 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 14000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes

[topeverest]

here is the plane tally....for all the air raids on the allied fleet. no other air combat today

[topeverest]

Over the enxt several turns, I plan to raid eastern and western borneo with british and American carriers to try to knock down the effectiveness of his booty haul. Mind you I am not allowed to strategic bomb. It merely is an attempt to bag some shipping and potentially draw KB into battle.

[Lowpe]

Close call at Balikpapen.

Even if they aren't up to US/British standards, play with French ships is fun![:)]

Try and save that burning ship! She had only 68 sys damage the previous turn, so there is probably no chance now with it in the 80s. Too bad.

Do you still have LeTriomphant?

[topeverest]

It is curtains for that French CL. really odd that it sunk from fire with such low fires at the end of the combat. I did not see any ammo bunker explosions. oh well - will have to be a mystery.

La triumphant sunk in an epic gun duel near Diego Garcia in May 43.

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Close call at Balikpapen.

Even if they aren't up to US/British standards, play with French ships is fun![:)]

Try and save that burning ship! She had only 68 sys damage the previous turn, so there is probably no chance now with it in the 80s. Too bad.

Do you still have LeTriomphant?

[topeverest]

allies execute a flawless bombardment and then port attack on Balikpapan.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 09, 45
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Night Naval bombardment of Balikpapan at 64,97

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 94 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 6 destroyed on ground
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 53 damaged
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 3 destroyed on ground
G4M3a Betty: 52 damaged
G4M3a Betty: 2 destroyed on ground
B7A2 Grace: 12 damaged
P1Y2 Frances: 85 damaged
P1Y2 Frances: 4 destroyed on ground
N1K2-J George: 96 damaged
N1K2-J George: 6 destroyed on ground
A6M5c Zero: 25 damaged
A6M5c Zero: 8 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III Dinah: 15 damaged
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
D4Y4 Judy: 22 damaged
D4Y4 Judy: 4 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
BB Ohio
BB Arkansas
BB New Mexico
CA San Antonio
CA Shropshire
CA New Orleans
CL Astoria II
CL Houston II
CL Vincennes II
CL Nashville
DD O' Brien II
DD Laffey II
DD Walke II
DD Preston II
DD Benham II
DD Cushing II
DD Monssen II
DD Jarvis II
DD Duncan II
DD Rowan

Japanese ground losses:
235 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 55 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Airbase hits 46
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 83
Port fuel hits 1

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Afternoon Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 33
F4U-4 Corsair x 76
F8F-1 Bearcat x 11
FR-1 Fireball x 21
SB2C-5 Helldiver x 45
TBM-3 Avenger x 45

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-5 Helldiver: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Kimigayo Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
APD T-18, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
AK Yubetsu Maru, Bomb hits 10, and is sunk
APD T-17, Bomb hits 9, and is sunk
APD T-10, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage

Port hits 15
Port fuel hits 5
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SB2C-5 Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
15 x TBM-3 Avenger bombing from 14000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x SB2C-5 Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
15 x TBM-3 Avenger bombing from 14000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x SB2C-5 Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
15 x TBM-3 Avenger bombing from 14000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x SB2C-5 Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
8 x SB2C-5 Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
4 x SB2C-5 Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
4 x SB2C-5 Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Port Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

Massive explosion on APD T-17


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Afternoon Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 70
Avenger III x 6
Corsair II x 30
Corsair IV x 28
Hellcat F.II x 16
Wildcat VI x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Avenger II: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
APD T-10, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Port hits 14
Port fuel hits 5
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Avenger II bombing from 14000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x Avenger III bombing from 14000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
32 x Avenger II bombing from 14000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
32 x Avenger II bombing from 14000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

[topeverest]

Miri attack scheduled for 2 turns from now with the other CV force. Both empire CV forces are in the geernal area, so anything can happen.

[topeverest]

After all that, tsorms blocked in all air missions around Miri. We will redo that this turn.

Empire launched unsuccessful air raids on my retiring CV forces from the Balikpapan raids, heading for oosthavan.

Batavia fell this past turn on Java, as did the last stronghold on Sumatra. American forces cant seem to march in a straight line from the eastern end of the island to engage 156.106. Its gotta be a conspiracy, as they have moved adjacent, then slid zoc hexes, then slid again, now they say they are moving into the hex. I hate it when the game does that!

In china, enemy forces have massed a huge army to counter a potential play for Canton. It may be too much due to the urban nature of the the battle. I will give it one pass, and will bomb it with everything I have. attack in a few days. If it fails I will move towards Manchuko and take a different port city other than Hong Kong

IN Russia, the empire put up a stiff denfense in battles at Changchun and tsistsihar. Changchun will not fall until I bring up more troops. the latter base will fall, but it will take time. I'll say this, the empire in Manchukuo is far from a stroll in the park.

[topeverest]

No joke here, but will eventually take the base. Note those Manchukuo district division! even bigger on at Chanchun



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Ground combat at Tsitsihar (109,36)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 39718 troops, 469 guns, 3470 vehicles, Assault Value = 2038

Defending force 29606 troops, 378 guns, 50 vehicles, Assault Value = 974

Allied adjusted assault: 1586

Japanese adjusted defense: 2061

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1782 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 135 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 103 (3 destroyed, 100 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
618 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 90 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 139 (11 destroyed, 128 disabled)

Assaulting units:
70th Tank Battalion
35th Tank Battalion
205th Tank Brigade
1012th SU Regiment
30th Motorcycle Regiment
82nd Tank Battalion
1019th SU Regiment
33rd Tank Battalion
43rd Tank Brigade
206th Tank Brigade
73rd Tank Brigade
74th Tank Brigade
25th Mechanized Brigade
7th Mongolian Motor Brigade
111th Tank Division
61st Tank Division
3rd Mongolian Tank Regiment
1915th AA Regiment
624th Hvy. Howitzer Regiment
3rd Mongolian Field Artillery Regiment
262nd/264th PVO AA Battalion
281st Engineer Battalion
86th VVS Base Force
282nd Engineer Battalion
1914th AA Regiment
178th Mortar Regiment
30th VVS Base Force
18th VVS Base Force
1916th AA Regiment
282nd/382nd AA Battalion
185th Cannon Regiment
1589th AA Regiment
283rd Engineer Battalion
413th Howitzer Regiment
88th VVS Base Force

Defending units:
149th Division
135th Ind.Mixed Brigade
136th Ind.Mixed Brigade
3rd Manchukuo Distr Division
17th Mortar Battalion
30th RF Gun Battalion
131st IMB Artillery Battalion
2nd Mortar Regiment
20th JAAF AF Bn

[topeverest]

I am moving up the main infantry force, as it will be needed to take this beast. No free lunch here.

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Ground combat at Changchun (106,41)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 73821 troops, 1190 guns, 4795 vehicles, Assault Value = 2881

Defending force 38990 troops, 362 guns, 164 vehicles, Assault Value = 1087

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 7

Allied adjusted assault: 1633

Japanese adjusted defense: 5947

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 7)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1086 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 99 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 58 (5 destroyed, 53 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1587 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 216 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 63 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 56 (2 destroyed, 54 disabled)
Vehicles lost 54 (3 destroyed, 51 disabled)

Assaulting units:
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
735th SU Regiment
5th Guards Tank Corps
927th SU Regiment
1197th SU Regiment

Defending units:
80th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Manchukuo Cavalry Division
Tesseki Infantry Brigade
9th Garrison Unit
130th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Manchukuo Division
133rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
8th Garrison Unit
Tesseki Cavalry Brigade
29th Ind. Engineer Regiment
100th Field AA Battalion
85th Field AA Battalion
Kwantung Army
5th Air Army
88th Field AA Battalion
67th JAAF AF Bn
81st JAAF AF Bn
34th JAAF AF Bn
108th Field Artillery Regiment
15th Mortar Battalion
205th JAAF AF Bn

[topeverest]

Miri was raided this turn to massive effect, and it was so successful and so many ships there, I am staying for another day.

Don't get too many days like this



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Miri at 64,87

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 28

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 45
Barracuda II x 101
Barracuda TR.III x 45
Corsair II x 17
Corsair IV x 116
Hellcat F.II x 31
Seafire IIC x 28
Seafire L.III x 19
Wildcat VI x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Avenger II: 4 damaged
Barracuda II: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
Barracuda II: 1 destroyed by flak
Barracuda TR.III: 1 damaged
Seafire IIC: 1 destroyed
Seafire L.III: 3 destroyed
Wildcat VI: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Hiroaki, Bomb hits 2, on fire
TK Hato Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
APD T-178
TK Uzura Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
TK Kima Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires
CL Obuhiru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Nashibetsu
TK Uzura Maru #3, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
E Kume, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
E Hodaka, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Taka Maru #1, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Gunma #4, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAP Shikishima Maru
TK Uzura Maru #5, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
TK Enoshima Maru
DD Maki
TK Gunma #3, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Gunma #5, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
TK Hato Maru #4, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
TK Gunma #2, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAP Hidaka Maru, Torpedo hits 1
SC CHa-103, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
TK Taka Maru #3, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
TK Hato Maru #3, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
E Kanawa, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Nakajima Maru
TK Yosei Maru
CL Itami
CL Ibi
xAP Kobayashi Maru
xAP Settsu Maru
TK Uzura Maru #6, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
TK Taka Maru #4, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
SC CHa-91, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SC CHa-95, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

[BBfanboy]

Huzzah!


Just noticed that the Kobayashi Maru is present there. If you sink it, Capt. James T. Kirk will never get to prove himself and the future will be changed!

[jwolf]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Kobayashi Maru

I had no idea that was a real ship! Very funny! [8D]

It looks like it escaped damage, though -- this time.

[topeverest]

Just played turn before work. empire commits CV's to a battle outside Miri with surprising exch0angecv clash results. I will provide details after work

Massive air losses on both sides, few hits

[Capt. Harlock]

Massive air losses on both sides, few hits

I assume that, since this scenario puts Japanese industry on steroids, they can replace the losses as easily as the Allies can?