The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)

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Good job Obvert. Heavy system damage and fire is bad news for the battleships. They are probably gone...

I only confirmed three lost by FP lost on ground those turns, but it sure seems like the other one couldn't have disappeared so fast after 16 bomb hits the last day!

He's most likely lost 11-12 BBs now, including all of the R class and the North Carolina.
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[font="Times New Roman"]17 October, 1943[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] The Apogon takes 4 hits near Miri. Our subs do nothing again, but we lose one midget at Marcus.

The midget driver gets a good report out on the Allied TFs before going down with the boat, and damn Allied damage control anyway! Lots still left afloat here from the strike, but some show heavy damage so may not be long for this world if they attempt an escape. I've also set up a surprise for the next turn.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]BURMA: [/font] Ramree is bombed, putting a bunch of hits on the base in spite of thunderstorms. No other developments here. usually he has a flurry of action in the air, then nothing for weeks.

This is one of the nothing periods when the pools are replenishing and 4Es getting patched I think. We're managing to do some upgrades though, so no worries. The CAP will be even tougher when he comes back as Tojos convert to the IIc model and a full Jack group is filled out. Oscars will upgrade to the much improved IIIa model soon, and Franks are right around the corner. [:)]

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CENT PAC: [/font] The Allies try a strike against the troops at Marcus again and continue to land (and shock) which destroys another 143 Allied devices. I think I know what he's doing here now. He's most like trying to reduce troop numbers without pulling the units, just killing off the wounded, basically, while letting the more capable troops rest and prepare for a later attack. Although the attacking numbers show only 3,553 troops, the total number in the Japanese bombardment is 10,687. It's not many now though after landing 22k earlier.

This still seems like it won't work well, but I could be wrong. It'll be hard to get troops to recover here, still overstacked. His AV before the adjustment is still going down, not up, every turn.

I don't like that there are still so many ships here floating that we hit, and that my subs are doing nothing about it. I've got 6 midgets and four subs in the hex now, but tomorrow another surprise will show itself, hopefully. Stay tuned.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SW PAC: [/font] Sweeps go over Saidor perfectly, drawing up the LR CAP and knocking them down with no radar to guide them together to the attackers. Then after the Corsairs are cleared Helens do some damage again on the base, getting a very welcome 25 airbase supply hits! [X(]
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ASW attack near Marcus Island at 123,85

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-30, hits 11, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Concord
CL Detroit
CL Raleigh
SC-632
SC-519
AM Whippoorwill
AM Robin
AM Penguin
APA Callaway
APA Arthur Middleton
APA President Adams
APA President Jackson
APA Barnett
APA Henry T. Allen, heavy damage
APA Harris
APA Wharton
AKA Bellatrix
LCI-335
LCI-333
LCI-75
LCI-63
LCI-21
xAP Santa Elena, heavy damage
xAP Mariposa
DE Wileman
DE LeHardy
DE Gilmore

SSX Ha-30 is sighted by escort
DE Wileman fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE LeHardy fails to find sub, continues to search...
DE Gilmore attacking submerged sub ....
Underwater explosion, debris and oil appear on surface!
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on Saidor , at 99,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 40



Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 14


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 31000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Saidor , at 99,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 13


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 27

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 27
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 48

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 11 damaged


Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 56

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Saidor , at 99,124

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 25
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 25
Runway hits 43

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 62nd Naval Guard Unit, at 123,85 (Marcus Island)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 219
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 26
SBD-5 Dauntless x 194
TBF-1 Avenger x 240


Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 5 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 8 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
193 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 11 (5 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
20 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb
18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 2000'

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Ground combat at Marcus Island (123,85)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3553 troops, 141 guns, 99 vehicles, Assault Value = 192

Defending force 4023 troops, 51 guns, 27 vehicles, Assault Value = 117

Allied adjusted assault: 0

Japanese adjusted defense: 49

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Allied ground losses:
571 casualties reported
Squads: 75 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 29 (29 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 16 (13 destroyed, 3 disabled)


Assaulting units:
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
25th Infantry Division
143rd USA Base Force
146th USA Base Force

Defending units:
8th Armored Car Co
2nd South Seas Gsn
78th Naval Guard Unit
Sasebo 7th SNLF
62nd Naval Guard Unit
34th Ind. Engineer Regiment
Det. 3rd Special Base Force /1

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[font="Trebuchet MS"]Two very important things are in this air losses report. One, but least important, is that Corsairs can't be Corsairs if they're on the defensive with no radar help and in small numbers. The A6M5 group that won the sweeps today is nothing special, so that bodes well for the future.

The second and most important thing is more subtle. Have a look at the Hellcat losses. This is from a turn where they flew three hexes on an escort mission against NO opposition.[:)]

They are wearing down. If we do have to go toe to toe, those fighters are not going to be in good shape. He needs to pull back and rest, but will he, and do I dare push to a confrontation to put them to the test?
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[font="Times New Roman"]18 - 19 October, 1943[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] Still no luck near Marcus. Setting new patrols daily.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]BURMA: [/font] Kept sweeps going a day too long at Akyab as a big LR CAP wiped out about 20 Tojos. Thanks to the armor only 4 pilots were KIA.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CENT PAC: [/font] My surprise was two fold at Marcus. Only one element arrived, which was the Rufe's defending the troops here. They couldn't of course stop the massive strike that arrived, but they did take a small tithe from the attackers. That and they made the Allies think twice about hitting here on a milk run, resulting in no bombing of the troops on the 19th. [:)]

These attacks have been extremely effective, and our troops are experiencing high disruption and the AV total drop about 10 points with each strike. Luckily he'll run out of sorties soon! The Allied shock attacks continue to be a VP point factory, resulting in 86 destroyed devices on the 18th and 98 devices on the 19th. His total troops are holding at around 10k.
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Morning Air attack on Saidor , at 99,124

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 36



Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 31000 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 22

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 11
F4U-1 Corsair x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet

CAP engaged:
VMF-217 with F4U-1 Corsair (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead
VMF-225 with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
No.75 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 37000 , scrambling fighters to 37000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on Det. 3rd Special Base Force, at 123,85 (Marcus Island)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 18



Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 217
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 26
SBD-5 Dauntless x 191
TBF-1 Avenger x 240


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 4 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 10 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged


Japanese ground losses:
309 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 17 (7 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 18 (4 destroyed, 14 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Marcus Island (123,85)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3791 troops, 46 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 117

Defending force 10424 troops, 212 guns, 281 vehicles, Assault Value = 184


Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Assaulting units:
78th Naval Guard Unit
Sasebo 7th SNLF
8th Armored Car Co
2nd South Seas Gsn
62nd Naval Guard Unit
34th Ind. Engineer Regiment
Kwajalein Base Force /1

Defending units:
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
143rd USA Base Force
146th USA Base Force
25th Infantry Division

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Ground combat at Marcus Island (123,85)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3306 troops, 114 guns, 87 vehicles, Assault Value = 179

Defending force 4393 troops, 55 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 117

Allied adjusted assault: 0

Japanese adjusted defense: 43

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
326 casualties reported
Squads: 28 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 29 (29 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (5 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Assaulting units:
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
146th USA Base Force
143rd USA Base Force
25th Infantry Division

Defending units:
Sasebo 7th SNLF
2nd South Seas Gsn
8th Armored Car Co
78th Naval Guard Unit
62nd Naval Guard Unit
34th Ind. Engineer Regiment
Kwajalein Base Force /1

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Morning Air attack on Akyab , at 54,45

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 22

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 53
F6F-3 Hellcat x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 6 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Ground combat at Marcus Island (123,85)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3512 troops, 48 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 112

Defending force 10310 troops, 187 guns, 275 vehicles, Assault Value = 180


Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
78th Naval Guard Unit
8th Armored Car Co
Sasebo 7th SNLF
62nd Naval Guard Unit
34th Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd South Seas Gsn
Kwajalein Base Force

Defending units:
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
146th USA Base Force
143rd USA Base Force
25th Infantry Division

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Ground combat at Marcus Island (123,85)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3218 troops, 90 guns, 86 vehicles, Assault Value = 180

Defending force 4271 troops, 57 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 112

Allied adjusted assault: 0

Japanese adjusted defense: 73

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
376 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 40 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 26 (26 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 19 (12 destroyed, 7 disabled)


Assaulting units:
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
143rd USA Base Force
146th USA Base Force
25th Infantry Division

Defending units:
78th Naval Guard Unit
8th Armored Car Co
Sasebo 7th SNLF
62nd Naval Guard Unit
34th Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd South Seas Gsn
Kwajalein Base Force

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[font="Trebuchet MS"]On the day we lose 5 Rufes for a reported 4 Avengers. A few more Allied planes are lost to ops again. Love the detail of the SBD firing on the Rufe as those dive to the lower TBFs. [/font]
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Obvert-

Did the KB escape?
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Obvert-

Did the KB escape?

Yes. The KB is happily many hexes away and getting some needed rest before the next phase of resistance. He's running out of sorties I think and so I was thinking I might want to be ready to hit a retreat if it happened, but I think it's more prudent to let the other forces bleed what they can and get the KB to optimum condition and upgraded as much as possible. I can add some D4Y3 and A6M5b plus hopefully get enough Jills to upgrade the last of the Kates from the KB.
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[font="Times New Roman"]20 October, 1943[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] At last!!! [&o]

The I-158 nails the smallest and slowest of the Allied CVEs, the Long Island, near Marcus. I'll take it! It went down like a rock after two ammo explosions and a fuel explosion. On board it looks like there was a Hurri Ib group of 25 planes which are show as 'lost on the ground.' Nice!
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Sub attack near Marcus Island at 126,87

Japanese Ships
SS I-158, hits 6

Allied Ships
CVE Long Island, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Minneapolis
CLAA Prince Robert
DD Cassin
DD Flusser
DD Allen
DD Farragut
DD Porter
DD Downes

Fuel storage explosion on CVE Long Island
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Long Island
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Long Island

SS I-158 launches 6 torpedoes at CVE Long Island
DD Allen fails to find sub and abandons search

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[font="Times New Roman"]20 October, 1943[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CENT PAC: [/font] The other portion of the surprise at Marcus also finally works after two frustrating days of no flights from these guys. Only portions of the two groups of Jakes here fly, probably due to the poor state of the base, but at least they do get some hits on an APA and a CL that had already been damaged. Even little bombs start fires, but also these strikes force the ships to all go to flank and react, hopefully adding damage even to the ones not hit in the strikes that are shown as heavy damage in the midget sub attacks.

APA Wharton had taken a torp from the CV planes, and is now show as sunk, but I'm not positive yet about that. At least 3 out of the 4 hits were penetrating here. [font="Trebuchet MS"]
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Marcus Island at 123,85

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 3 damaged
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed by flak


Allied Ships
CL Concord, Bomb hits 3
APA Wharton, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
CL Detroit

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x E13A1 Jake bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
6 x E13A1 Jake bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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All of the hits on the Concord were bouncers, but one took out a 6 inch gun. It showed some smoke before the hits, but nothing serious.

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Marcus keeps getting more expensive each day! Good work!
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[font="Times New Roman"]20 October, 1943[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CENT PAC: [/font]Attacks by the Allied CV planes again resume and really pummel the troops. The Allied shock again destroys a few devices though and the AV there is still 0.
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Afternoon Air attack on Kwajalein Base Force, at 123,85 (Marcus Island)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 2



Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 216
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 27
SBD-5 Dauntless x 159
TBF-1 Avenger x 185


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 2 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 7 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
430 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 58 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 29 (20 destroyed, 9 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
17 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Marcus Island (123,85)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 2817 troops, 70 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 179

Defending force 3885 troops, 57 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 93

Allied adjusted assault: 0

Japanese adjusted defense: 62

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Allied ground losses:
256 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (5 destroyed, 5 disabled)


Assaulting units:
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
146th USA Base Force
143rd USA Base Force
25th Infantry Division

Defending units:
Sasebo 7th SNLF
78th Naval Guard Unit
62nd Naval Guard Unit
2nd South Seas Gsn
Kwajalein Base Force

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Marcus keeps getting more expensive each day! Good work!

That's the hope!
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Obvert-

Did the KB escape?

Yes. The KB is happily many hexes away and getting some needed rest before the next phase of resistance. He's running out of sorties I think and so I was thinking I might want to be ready to hit a retreat if it happened, but I think it's more prudent to let the other forces bleed what they can and get the KB to optimum condition and upgraded as much as possible. I can add some D4Y3 and A6M5b plus hopefully get enough Jills to upgrade the last of the Kates from the KB.


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Good for you.

And, I second the motion that you are making Marcus Island expensive turf.

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An odd thing is happening with my IJA upgrades. As the screen here shows, apparently the 43 IJA squads are being built and going to troops somewhere, with over 5k distributed so far. The trouble is none of my divisions show this upgrade. They're all still showing a 'normal' IJA squad.

Has anyone seen this before? We;re using the last official patch for this one and I'm not interested in upgrading, so I might have to live with it, but maybe they're actually filling in to troops and there is just a display problem?

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Speaking of units, we're nearing that time when the Japanese start to get some serious reinforcements. While these are mostly regimental to brigade sized units, they're perfect for shoring up islands and smaller bases around the map.

Now I have to figure out where to put them all!


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[font="Times New Roman"]21 October, 1943[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] A midget got a shot today at Marcus but came up missing, and paid the ultimate price.

The I-153 gets a sighting of more cargo ships arriving near Marcus. Not sure if this is just supply, but reads as two xAK and three AM, so I'm guessing that's it.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]BURMA: [/font] The Allies strike!!!

Out of the blue the Allies launch an attack at the big blockade where we sit across from 350k of their troops. It doesn't go well for the aggressors here. They lose 200+ squads plus almost 2k disabled, plus a bunch of vehicles, guns, engines and support. Feeling pretty good about the position here. I'm sure his bombers were supposed to fly, but it's just not the best option to strike without being sure you've worn out the defenders through the air and with bombardments.

The Allies also got a (-) for supply. I'm feeling good now about the campaign against Lashio and Ramree to hit the supply and LOC for these troops.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CENT PAC: [/font] A new surprise here. Wake was undefended by fighters, so after a few days of recon I sent in two groups of Netties and torched the place. A few subs likely sunk and support ships damaged. Nice! [8D]

Just another thing to think about.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SW PAC: [/font] Georges get a slightly better result from sweeping over Lae. No other movement.
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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 38


Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 14
F4U-1 Corsair x 14
F4U-1A Corsair x 14


Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 4

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 8
F4U-1 Corsair x 1
F4U-1A Corsair x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Wake Island , at 136,98

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 99 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 16
G4M1 Betty x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
SS Scamp, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
SS Blackfish, Bomb hits 4, heavy damage
AR Prometheus, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AS Orion, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires
SS Muskallunge, Bomb hits 2
AVP Avocet, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Perkins, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

ACM YP-131, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

Port hits 16
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
22 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Massive explosion on SS Muskallunge

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Marcus Island at 123,85

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 1,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 10


Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 7 damaged
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed by flak


Allied Ships
LCI-333, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
CL Detroit
CL Concord

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x E13A1 Jake bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
5 x E13A1 Jake bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Marcus Island (123,85)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3365 troops, 48 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 96

Defending force 9562 troops, 163 guns, 258 vehicles, Assault Value = 181

Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
78th Naval Guard Unit
Sasebo 7th SNLF
62nd Naval Guard Unit
2nd South Seas Gsn
Kwajalein Base Force

Defending units:
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
143rd USA Base Force
146th USA Base Force
25th Infantry Division

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Ground combat at 60,48 (near Taung Gyi)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 238745 troops, 3780 guns, 5530 vehicles, Assault Value = 9369

Defending force 107712 troops, 1210 guns, 1362 vehicles, Assault Value = 3614

Allied adjusted assault: 2210

Japanese adjusted defense: 13516

Allied assault odds: 1 to 6

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker: supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
5581 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 289 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 124 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 73 disabled
Guns lost 188 (10 destroyed, 178 disabled)
Vehicles lost 105 (7 destroyed, 98 disabled)



Allied ground losses:
22304 casualties reported
Squads: 207 destroyed, 1869 disabled
Non Combat: 101 destroyed, 513 disabled
Engineers: 38 destroyed, 308 disabled
Guns lost 368 (22 destroyed, 346 disabled)
Vehicles lost 492 (39 destroyed, 453 disabled)

Units destroyed 1



Assaulting units:
2nd Gordons Battalion
40th Infantry Division
8th KGV Light Cav Regiment
254th Armoured Brigade
72nd British Brigade
41st Infantry Division
18th British Division
BFF Brigade
16th Chindit Brigade
50th Tank Brigade
26th Indian Brigade
32nd Infantry Division
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
7th Indian Division
7th Australian Division
150th RAC Regiment
255th Armoured Brigade
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
11th Indian Division
1st Garrison Brigade
1st Hyderabad Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
268th Motorised Brigade
39th Indian Division
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
45th Indian Brigade
25th Indian Division
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
14th Chindit Brigade
Americal Infantry Division
6th Australian Division
1st New Chinese Corps
22nd (East African) Brigade
46th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
1st Marine Division
2nd British Division
3rd Cavalry Regiment
9th Australian Division
5th Marine Defense Battalion
2/9th Field Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
249th Field Artillery Battalion
43rd Cavalry Engineer Regiment
42nd Cavalry Engineer Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
97th Field Artillery Battalion
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
198th Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion
XXXIII Indian Corps
2/13th Field Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
181st Field Artillery Regiment
226th Field Artillery Battalion
168th Field Artillery Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment

Defending units:
21st Division
48th Division
2nd Guards Division
1st Tank Division
5th Division
4th Division
16th Division
55th Division
11th Tank Regiment
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
8th Area Army
15th Air Defense AA Regiment
45th Ind.AA Gun Co
25th Army
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Art.Mortar Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Air Defense AA Battalion
7th Air Defense AA Regiment
3rd RF Gun Battalion
55th Field AA Battalion
4th RF Gun Battalion
32nd Ind.AA Gun Co
6th RF Gun Battalion
8th RF Gun Battalion

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It sure does seem everything is coming up Roses for Japan lately. Very well played.[:)]



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It sure does seem everything is coming up Roses for Japan lately. Very well played.[:)]

Thanks. The only trouble is that every time we sink something or win a battle the delay before the next turns seems to be much longer than if the Allies have some success. I guess as the game goes on it could mean lots of quick turns later, at least! [;)]
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Everyone deals with loss a different way.[:D]

I think some players simply just click end turn and send it back and not really change anything. Others I am sure spend extra time to see what they have overlooked and then others don't vary from their normal turn routine.

Makes for varied games.
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Everyone deals with loss a different way.[:D]

I think some players simply just click end turn and send it back and not really change anything. Others I am sure spend extra time to see what they have overlooked and then others don't vary from their normal turn routine.

Makes for varied games.

I've ended turn and sent back without changing anything on many an occasion. On both sides. Ever have a day with an empty combat report because nothing happened? Yeah...
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[font="Times New Roman"]22 October, 1943[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] Well, the Allies struck back this turn! Sensing the Allied Deatch Star might be about to pull back I sent a small TF led by CA Kako out to within 10 hexes of Marcus. The Bowfin happened to be in the area and sent two fish screaming into her side!

Damn! [:@]

She's at 69 float damage and can only move a few hexes a day. The question is will he move the CVs in to finish her off?

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]BURMA: [/font] The Allies show movement back toward Lashio with some troops from the big stack. I'll bet there are a few units in there that need significant rest. Or he's going to flank me, which would also be interesting.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CENT PAC: [/font] The Allies land more supply and our strikes get intercepted by a few Hellcats today, so a few Jakes go down, but nothing major. They also launch a big strike again on the troops here. Man, when will stories run out? [&:]

No troops landed though so no shock attack at Marcus.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SW PAC: [/font] Another George sweep again comes out positive. These are not expert pilots though, just 55/70 guys, so pretty happy with the past two days here.
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Sub attack near Marcus Island at 118,95

Japanese Ships
CA Kako, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
DD Sazanami

Allied Ships
SS Bowfin

SS Bowfin launches 4 torpedoes at CA Kako
Bowfin diving deep ....
DD Sazanami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sazanami attacking submerged sub ....

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Afternoon Air attack on Kwajalein Base Force, at 123,85 (Marcus Island)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 212
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 27
SBD-5 Dauntless x 125
TBF-1 Avenger x 185


Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 5 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 3 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
391 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 47 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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