SOT: Naval Architects of Lore May Have Been Right After All

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This stuff is amazing. Thanks for taking the time JWE
My pleasure. Jeez, glad people like this stuff. Gorn didn’t like the Froude post too much; have to say I didn’t either. Doing some RL things on period sailing ships that have a lot of meta stability stuff going on and am using modern techniques to judge performance. I’m kinda immersed in the concepts, anyway, so going from a Sané fregate to a modern ain’t too far a stretch.

Yeah, ships make waves. Like any wave, they have peaks and valleys. Poking along, a ship is under the bow wave peak, is floating on her lines, and everything is wonderful as shown in the green lines of the diagram. As speed increases, things shift aft and eventually, she’ll get to the point where the bow-wave peak goes aft enough that her bow is in the trough of the generated wave train and is pushing/plunging against the face of the medium as shown by the red lines in the diagram. It’s like ploughing your face through mud. Drag increases non-proportionally. Ok, that’s Froude-1; the economic limit.

As speed increases further, the bow wave trough constructively interferes with the stern wave trough and you get a really deep trough under the stern. The diagram is of the bow wave; the stern wave is a bit different. The stern then drops and parks. So now you are dragging ass. Don’t think I need to detail the effect on drag with this configuration. So her butt is in a hole and it’s gonna take a poopload of extra power to get her out of it. That’s Froude-2; the hull speed limit.

Note: red and green waveforms differ by phase and are centered on the midships of the vessel. That’s why we thought it important to mention Froude numbers as a function of the vessel characteristic length. Wave formation is seriously dependent on the vessel’s length.

I hope this is better. Ciao. JWE


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Oh, aaargh. Here's the pic with the red and green lines.


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What was 1st US CV with non-wooded deck?

To answer your question it was the USS Midway. Laid down during the war but didn't become operational before it ended (IIRC). Eventually three ships of this class were completed. I believe a fourth was started but never completed.
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Ok, so the title is SOT. And this ain't got jack to do with Architects of Lore (Yore, or whatever).But it does have to do with the sea and the bounty it provides.

Next door neighbor was out fishing yesterday, looking for snapper. He couldn't get many because he had to beat the king mackerel away. So he's got a ton of King Mackerel and says "do you want some? And how do you want it; steaks or fillets?" I got a lot of both. He cut 6x serious steaks, and 3x fillets to die for. Recipes available on request. Ciao. JWE
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He's generous for sharing, nuts for not going after the king mackerel in the first place. King Mackerel are great!
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He's generous for sharing, nuts for not going after the king mackerel in the first place. King Mackerel are great!
I quite agree. I literally just pulled into the driveway from the airport and I was blown away. Kings !!?? Then I remembered it's snapper season in Alabama; you can only take two per person per boat and there's a lower limit on size. AL tries really hard to maintain the stocks, so in snapper season, you gotta try and catch snapper. Hard to believe, but Kings is just a bennie.

STOT - going to the Keys next month to see if I can snag some Pompano. Right now, I owe Randall big time. If I can get some Pompano, I'll own him.[8D]

Ciao. JWE[:)]
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