Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

IndoChina - I hope you are able to get into Vietnam and don't have to try a Dunkirk to get your troops out. If he controls the skies, then it will be hard. Don't know how he is using his B-25 attack bombers, but they are great at sinking transports.

Lets hope so, it is a fighting withdraw...or a running away withdraw in the open ground.[:D]

[Lowpe]

Turn is away, different strikes set up...

Some reinforcements arrive in Singers...for the last stand there.

Japan is going to get really pummeled now...with Allied fighters off Tokyo it will be even uglier.

We should see some naval battles, 0 moonlight, maybe we will get some licks in.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Turn is sent. What will it bring? Invasion Honshu? Invasion Japanese Island? Huge Cap Trap? Bluff and heavy bombing?

An invasion would certainly be fun to watch. Might even buy you more time VP wise!

I suspect not, due to strategic VPs if he gets points for everything that gets destroyed when a base flips. Remember that Heavy Industry at the very least gets halved. If those count as destroyed points for him... that's a lot, even in a small industrial center. A loss of just 20 is 400 points - or the better part of several Japanese divisions destroyed (equivalent to 2400 devices).

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
I suspect not, due to strategic VPs if he gets points for everything that gets destroyed when a base flips. Remember that Heavy Industry at the very least gets halved. If those count as destroyed points for him... that's a lot, even in a small industrial center. A loss of just 20 is 400 points - or the better part of several Japanese divisions destroyed (equivalent to 2400 devices).

Ah, that I did not consider...[X(]

[Lowpe]

plus whatever future ship builds there are . They really add up![X(]

[Lowpe]

The Allies take the two Japanese Islands; heck he landed with a marine division plus 7 other units including armor. Americans are able to offload everything in one day, the only ships left were PT boats and destroyers.

My airstrike gets about 20 bombers over the destroyers, and hits one.

We have several destroyer skirmishes, but nothing spectacular. Pretty much trade destroyers until dawn and the airstrikes net one more Japanese destroyer.

Allied 4E bomb Yokohoma.

Over in Thailand, we drive off a shock attack with heavy losses on both sides on the Battambang road. The Allies take a 1000 more losses than Japan.

Uttaradit is down to 1 brigade, and they hold off another attack, although this time the forts are dropped one.

The 1st Tank Division holds the JR road terrain on the road from the plains to Battambang. They will retreat this turn, and start a mad dash east.

Heavy bombing on the plains of Thailand.

Paramushiro holds, but they are getting worn out. Americans invade the last Japanese Island in the Kuriles.

Pictures later...

[Lowpe]

The mess that is Honshu...

A nice invasion orchestration by the Allies.

[ny59giants]

The word for the coming months will be Sweeps, Sweeps and occasionally Escort. [:D] Once the P-51Ds come out, there will be no place to hide in the Home Islands from two size 5 AFs just off the coast. [:(]

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
I suspect not, due to strategic VPs if he gets points for everything that gets destroyed when a base flips. Remember that Heavy Industry at the very least gets halved. If those count as destroyed points for him... that's a lot, even in a small industrial center. A loss of just 20 is 400 points - or the better part of several Japanese divisions destroyed (equivalent to 2400 devices).

Ah, that I did not consider...[X(]

Did he get Strat VPs for the HI on Hokkaido as he took those bases? It would be nice to know the answer to that question.

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
I suspect not, due to strategic VPs if he gets points for everything that gets destroyed when a base flips. Remember that Heavy Industry at the very least gets halved. If those count as destroyed points for him... that's a lot, even in a small industrial center. A loss of just 20 is 400 points - or the better part of several Japanese divisions destroyed (equivalent to 2400 devices).

Ah, that I did not consider...[X(]

Did he get Strat VPs for the HI on Hokkaido as he took those bases? It would be nice to know the answer to that question.

He didn't really pound Hokkaido for strategic victory points from the air. Although he took the base, it was always a nasty VP hit so my guess is yes. I can go back and look, and calculate a few things out.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: JocMeister



Ah, that I did not consider...[X(]

Did he get Strat VPs for the HI on Hokkaido as he took those bases? It would be nice to know the answer to that question.

He didn't really pound Hokkaido for strategic victory points from the air. Although he took the base, it was always a nasty VP hit so my guess is yes. I can go back and look, and calculate a few things out.

Should be easy enough if you still have turns in Tracker - just look for a big jump in VPs that doesn't match the sum of all of your losses on that day.

[Lowpe]

Good news for the day...

[Lowpe]

And again...

[Lowpe]

A good day for the silent service.

[Lowpe]

April 24th, 1944

175 planes lost on each side as the air battles over Honshu are fierce...

In Thailand, the Allies keep spanking my butt in the central plains...but Uttaradit still holds as does the Battambang road, for now.

[Lowpe]

Turn is away...trying to hurt the Allies at every spot, while retreating, shipping oil & fuel(still).

It really is amazing to feel the brunt of the Allies, and it is only going to get worse!!!

[Lowpe]

April 25, 1944

No night bombing, I doubt there will be any for the rest of the game. My one remaining strength with good squadrons, plentiful pools. Sigh.

We move several destroyer squadrons to Hammatsu; and stuff the base with as many obsolete fighters (mostly A6M5c) that have no chance against Allied sweeps, but are good bomber killers. We season the mix with a few Jacks and Franks to protect against sweeps (which there is one); and then we enjoy a nice run against Allied bombers. A good day.

Still, I need to destroy 10 times as much.

If only I would have cranked up the Ki100i to about 500 planes per month back in 1943; and Frank and George to the same amount. [:(] Or held off against some of the pointless attacks on the deathstar -- 1000s of planes lost for no gain.[:(]

It is nice to use the Zeke in a good role here...

Getting bombed back to the stone ages on the Thai plains.

[mind_messing]

If only I would have cranked up the Ki100i to about 500 planes per month back in 1943; and Frank and George to the same amount. Or held off against some of the pointless attacks on the deathstar -- 1000s of planes lost for no gain.

You're a month ahead of my game with Loka, and I've made the same realization. Production is ramping up while the Allied strategic bombers are still far out of range. I'd rather start running down HI stockpiles now while I still have the factories than wait till the Allies are firebombing the cities.

You don't have that luxury, sadly.

I think your best chance for a strike against the Allied carriers was on those landings just south of Yokohama. The short range, combined with the huge airbases you'd have nearby should (and I say should, keeping in mind that we're all subject to the whims of the co-ordination god) have led to some nice coordinated strikes.

Again, the other recent realization for us both is that you'll need to hold your strike aircraft back until you get a good opportunity. Otherwise, as we've both learned, you just end up throwing aircraft away.

[Lowpe]

Got the turn done and away.

More destroyer skirmishes for this turn, with them returning to a port with a hefty CAP. But I bet the Allies take their planes of naval strikes, or shortens their range.

Running away in Thailand...the 1 and 2nd Tank Divisions can really move fast, the 2nd is already digging in past Udon Thany. I expect a big attack on the Battambang road...but surely he troops are as dog tired as mine.

[Lowpe]

April 26, 1944

We trade 3 Destroyers for 2 Fletchers overnight, during the day trade 7 Japanese planes for 37 Allied.

Bombed heavily in Thailand, Uttaradit finally falls all troops retreating there.

In the Kuriles Paramushiro still holds...but not for much longer.