F-15 will payloads 16 AAMRAMs?

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Now I re-read it too. I know F110 is relatively less fuel consuming compare to Russian counterparts, but two of these are still use good amount of it, especially with heavier loadout.

Will the fuel tank redesign involved with an entire fuselage? If so, the Silent Eagle airframe really should have it considered before.
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Now I re-read it too. I know F110 is relatively less fuel consuming compare to Russian counterparts, but two of these are still use good amount of it, especially with heavier loadout.

Will the fuel tank redesign involved with an entire fuselage? If so, the Silent Eagle airframe really should have it considered before.
Aye fuel constraints. It doesn't look like it has fuel specs on the website. With the extended pylons on the inboard side, IIRC they will likely have to redesign the drop tanks as I don't think the 610 Gallon tanks will fit.
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I know F110 is relatively less fuel consuming compare to Russian counterparts, but two of these are still use good amount of it, especially with heavier loadout.

A minor point, but just to clarify: no U.S. F-15s are equipped with F110 engines.

All F-15C/Ds are equipped with F100-PW-100 or -220 engines. The F-15Es are a mix with some still flying the F100-PW-220 and others flying the higher thrust F100-PW-229.

The only F-15s flying on the F110 would be South Korea (for their first batch only, they switched back to F100s for their second batch), Singapore, and Saudi Arabia (which re-engined half of their F-15S fleet but none of their C/D models).
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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -u-416766/




Boeing has unveiled an up-gunned version of its supersonic F-15C air superiority jet designed to keep the aging fleet operationally relevant through 2040.


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So it's not base on F-15SE.

I do ask though, does Boeing start to disregard its radar signature, and believe that hoard of missiles per jet can intimidate everyone, more than stealth and ECM?
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As it will take several decades before the F-35 is available in the same numbers as Gen 4 fighters, these legacy designs will also have to be kept in service for the duration. But as more and more new 4.5 and 5 gen fighters will become into service with unfriendlier nations, these legacy designs will become more and more obsolete as frontline fighters but will still have to be used in such a role more or less.

One solution to this problem would be to convert a number of legacy AC into close support air superiority AC like this F-15 modification. In this role, these F-15 would stay back from the engagement zone while F-22's and F35's will scout ahead for targets but instead of taking the shot themselves, they will pass targeting data to these F-15 which will then close at supersonic speeds, take the shot from maximum standoff range and retreat again at high speed. Any pursuing fighter would then be easy meat for the loitering gen 5 fighters.

This will let the Gen 5 AC operate without external A-A ordnance and thus stay in maximum stealth and still have access to great loads of A-A ordinance.

Of course this is not an ideal solution to this obsolescence problem, but it will keep these legacy designs viable in the next decades for a relatively modest investment.
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If you have served as I did, you might look at this idea differently as I do..

I would be willing to bet this idea is not being considered for dogfighting NOR shoot and scoot situations... There is a bigger picture..

These platforms are being worked on as a specific defense against swarm cruise missile launches....
Take it light...

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Hehe the USAF only buys about 20 AMRAAMs a year so would take 10 fiscal years to buy enough missiles to arm half a squadron [8D]
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USAF only buys about 20 AMRAAMs a year
Get some from US Navy then. xD
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Was wondering what ever happened to Cuda as nothing's been posted about it an awhile. Looks like a bit in July though

http://elementsofpower.blogspot.com/201 ... pdate.html

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