Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, Docup(A)-Koniu(J)

koniu · Post by **koniu** » Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:31 pm

Thanks for all comments.

I am split in half here. Attack tomorrow with KB or not.
Still not sure what to do.

Any advices appreciated

PS. It is first time i don`t know what to do. First time i doubt my self

zuluhour · Post by **zuluhour** » Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:36 pm

....anticipation...

koniu · Post by **koniu** » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:11 am

I see here to passable solutions.

A. Retreat with KB and allow him to land and use only LBA.

It will save KB but will give him bases.And next time i face DS i will fight also with allied LBA. So it will be even worst next time

And I will not count on LBA.
I newer saw LBA (since beta patch changes) as major threat. They can disrupt, disorganize enemy CAP giving window to KB strike, but they will not do much against DS. Ok some can get trough but not enough to change much

B. Full strike with LBA+KB

KB will aim for epic 8 hex strike praying to survive battle and be able to retreat next day. With LBA support KB strike will have chance to penetrate enemy CAP and destroy as many as passable allied ships.

I am not telling that i will stop invasion. It is almost impassible but allies will not have it for free.
Damn, if not now then when.

What do You think about it.

KenchiSulla · Post by **KenchiSulla** » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:10 am

Allies will get stronger, you will weaken...

I say attack, you won't get a better chance since he will build up the area...

aciddrinker · Post by **aciddrinker** » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:24 pm

It's your Leyte battle, but now you have chance to inflict major damage to his forces.

Sangeli · Post by **Sangeli** » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:46 pm

ORIGINAL: koniu
B. Full strike with LBA+KB

KB will aim for epic 8 hex strike praying to survive battle and be able to retreat next day. With LBA support KB strike will have chance to penetrate enemy CAP and destroy as many as passable allied ships.

I am not telling that i will stop invasion. It is almost impassible but allies will not have it for free.
Damn, if not now then when.

What do You think about it.

I vote for this option. Be smart when you attack but CF is right that you won't get another opportunity like this.

witpqs · Post by **witpqs** » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:48 pm

ORIGINAL: Sangeli

ORIGINAL: koniu
B. Full strike with LBA+KB

KB will aim for epic 8 hex strike praying to survive battle and be able to retreat next day. With LBA support KB strike will have chance to penetrate enemy CAP and destroy as many as passable allied ships.

I am not telling that i will stop invasion. It is almost impassible but allies will not have it for free.
Damn, if not now then when.

What do You think about it.
I vote for this option. Be smart when you attack but CF is right that you won't get another opportunity like this.

+1 Give 'em hell!

GetAssista · Post by **GetAssista** » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:29 pm

We are biased, we want to see ze epic battle [:D]
Also we JFBs want to see Allies getting kicked in 1945, and you have a great chance at that with your track record.
It's not that often in AARs for Japan to reach 1945 in such a great shape with naval air intact, upgraded and trained.

Lowpe · Post by **Lowpe** » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:54 pm

I believe at this date the Allies can also have an 8 hex CV air strike if they pass the needed rolls. Not sure if this is legitimate or another forum piece of misinformation.

Be careful.

koniu · Post by **koniu** » Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:14 pm

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

I believe at this date the Allies can also have an 8 hex CV air strike if they pass the needed rolls. Not sure if this is legitimate or another forum piece of misinformation.

Be careful.

It is hard coded.
Japan can fly offensive missions from CV at range 8, Allies at range 7.
There is no rolls for that. At lest i never hear about them.

witpqs · Post by **witpqs** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:00 am

ORIGINAL: koniu

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

I believe at this date the Allies can also have an 8 hex CV air strike if they pass the needed rolls. Not sure if this is legitimate or another forum piece of misinformation.

Be careful.

It is hard coded.
Japan can fly offensive missions from CV at range 8, Allies at range 7.
There is no rolls for that. At lest i never hear about them.

Developers have confirmed that there are high experience rolls for exceeding the limit.

Lowpe · Post by **Lowpe** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:39 am

Aha, I thought so! I spent only a few minutes looking, but I thought it might be gospel. Good to know the memory isn't quite shot yet![:D]

koniu · Post by **koniu** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:20 am

We will see If i have enough luck with dice roles

Turn send. Tomorrow 2500 planes will strike.
I will write about it probably tomorrow because Docup ask for more time

While KB will go with standard 10-15k altitude
LBA will go with mix of altitudes between 100-35k ft. I hope that LBAs disorganize DS CAP enough that KB will have some chances to get trough.

Plan is to win[:D]

Crackaces · Post by **Crackaces** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:51 am

ORIGINAL: koniu

We will see If i have enough luck with dice roles

Turn send. Tomorrow 2500 planes will strike.
I will write about it probably tomorrow because Docup ask for more time

While KB will go with standard 10-15k altitude
LBA will go with mix of altitudes between 100-35k ft. I hope that LBAs disorganize DS CAP enough that KB will have some chances to get trough.

Plan is to win[:D]

All depends how you define victory ... in this game you have to last beyond Mar 1946 and not let the Allies get 2:1 in VP's

It will be beautiful if you can get a 8 hex strike in with the KB

I am concerned about 3 things:

1. There seems to be a lot of TF's and ships overall .. Detection level has a lot to do with coordination ..and then there are CV's, CVE's, and CVL's I am not sure how the die rolls allocate aircraft to the attack but I am sure your attack will spread out depending on detection
2. I suspect A lot of 5" DP guns are in that mix .. if you do not get a concentrated attack on a TF .. those guns will decimate the attacking groups.
3. Now after the exchange (which I suspect will not be one sided and #1 & #2 above might slant things the Allies way) there is some probability 'X' that you will lose the KB as a fleet in being. the ability to raid LOC and extend the war.

koniu · Post by **koniu** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:25 pm

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

3......... there is some probability 'X' that you will lose the KB as a fleet in being.

Yes You are right.
But even it is last battle of KB it will be as it deserve it. In glory and not as shadow of what it was, somewhere year from now, or worst scraped to razors after capitulation

KenchiSulla · Post by **KenchiSulla** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:33 pm

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koniu · Post by **koniu** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:28 pm

I am start to planing also Marianas evacuation. If Docup land in north, there will no reason to keep that huge garrison there

zuluhour · Post by **zuluhour** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:44 pm

zuluhour · Post by **zuluhour** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:10 pm

That was neat to see Mr Cannon.

PaxMondo · Post by **PaxMondo** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:29 pm

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: koniu

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

I believe at this date the Allies can also have an 8 hex CV air strike if they pass the needed rolls. Not sure if this is legitimate or another forum piece of misinformation.

Be careful.

It is hard coded.
Japan can fly offensive missions from CV at range 8, Allies at range 7.
There is no rolls for that. At lest i never hear about them.

Developers have confirmed that there are high experience rolls for exceeding the limit.

correct. Up to max limit of strike aircraft. IIRC, allies are Max-1, so that IJ maintains a slight advantage.

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