Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[ComDev]

Noted, thanks for the bump. Although this has very (very very) low priority [8D]

Now that 1.09 seems ok for release Ive started writing code for 1.10. Will be busy with that at least until Christmas.

ORIGINAL: Mgellis


Just giving this one a bump in case it got missed...this one is LOW PRIORITY, as I'm not working on anything right now that involves Ghana, but it would be nice to have. Lots of possibilities for small or medium-sized conflicts involving Gulf of Guinea nations over oil, terrorism, piracy, fishing rights, etc.

ORIGINAL: Mgellis


To help with the general effort of adding more about Africa to the database, I have tried to track down as much information as I could find (mostly from Jane's Fighting Ships, but also some from Wikipedia and other sources) about Ghana's navy. Thanks for considering these!


GHANA


Lurssen PB 57 FAC

P 28 Achimota
P 29 Yogaga
Displacement: 389 tons full load
Dimensions: 58.1 m x 7.6 m. x 2.8 m
Main machinery: 3 MTU 16V 538 TB91 diesels; 9,210 hp(m) (6.78 MW) sustained; 3 shafts
Speed: 30 knots
Range: not given, but the Spanish Lazaga-class, which is very similar is listed as 700 naut. miles at 27 knots and 3,000 miles at 15 knots
Complement: 55 (5 officers)
Guns: 1 x OTO Melara 3-inch compact; 1 x Breda 40mm/70
Weapons control: LIOD optronic director
Radars: surface search/fire control: Thomson-CSF Canopus A; I/J-band; Navigation: Decca TM 1226C; I band
Operational Dates: 1981-present


Albatros (Type 143) FAC

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghana_Navy) says that two German Albatros-class FACS (P 27 Sebo and P 31 Dzata) were transferred in 2010 (so, Operational dates would be 2010-present, I suppose). I’m guessing the data would be the same as that listed in the database for the Albatros-class from 1988-2004 (listed as #1386)


P 33 Stephen Otu

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghana_Navy) also says a South Korean Chamsuri-class was donated in 2011 (Operational dates: 2011-present). Here is the Wikipedia data for the ship:

Class and type: Chamsuri-class patrol boat, Stephen Otu-class
Pennant: P 33 Stephen Otu
Displacement: 170 tonnes
Length: 37m (121 ft 5 in)
Beam: 7 m (23 ft 0 in)
Draft: 1.7 m (5 ft 7 in)
Propulsion: CODAG, 2 x MTU MD538 TU90 Diesel Engine
Speed: 37 knots (69 km/h; 43 mph)
Range: 600 nautical miles at 20 knots
Sensors and processing systems: 1 x STX RadarSys SPS-100k surface search radar, 1 x Saab CEROS fire radar and optronic sight
Electronic warfare and decoys: 2 x KDAGAIE Mk2 decoys
Armament: 1 x Bofors 40mm gun, 2 x Sea Vulcan (late model)

Information from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNS_Stephen_Otu_%28P33%29


Gepard Class Fast Attack Craft

Wikipedia says two were purchased from Germany in 2012 (Operational dates: 2012-present); these appear to be the same as the ones in #1381 in the database. As far as I can tell from the one image I could find, the Exocet missiles are still there, but I could be mistaken.


Lurssen FPB 45

Operational Dates: 1980-2010 (both commissioned in 1980; decommissioning date is a guess, based on the fact that the same ship names are used for the Albatross-class ships transferred in 2010; I’m guessing the Albatross-class ships are replacements for these two vessels)
Pennant numbers: P 26 Dzata; P 27 Sebo
Displacement: 269 tons full load
Dimensions: 44.9 m x 7 m x 2.7 m
Main machinery: 2 MTU 16V 538 TB91 diesels; 6,140 hp(m) (4.5 MW) sustained; 2 shafts
Speed: 27 knots
Range: 1,800 naut. miles at 16 knots; 700 naut. miles at 25 knots
Complement: 45 (5 officers)
Guns: 2 Bofors 40mm/70
Radars: Surface search: Decca TM 1226C; I-band


Defender Class
(already requested)

Ghana is listed as having seven of these (three in 2008, four more in 2010); Operational dates: 2008-present


Balsam Class PBO

(former USCG vessels)

Operational dates: 2001-present
Pennant numbers: P 30 Anzone (ex-WLB 407); P 31 Bonsu (ex-WLB 405)
Displacement: 1034 tons full load
Dimensions: 54.9 m x 11.3 m. x 3.8 m.
Main machinery: Diesel electric: 2 diesels, 1402 hp (1.06 MW); 1 motor; 1200 hp (895 kw); 1 shaft; bow thruster
Speed: 13 knots
Range: 8,000 miles at 12 knots
Complement: 53
Guns: 2 x 12.7 mm MGs
Radar: Navigation: Raytheon SPS-64(V)1


(Unfortunately, very little information is available on Ghana's newest class, the Snake-class 46.8m patrol vessels ordered from China. The Wikipedia page has their pennant names and numbers, and the fact that they were commissioned in 2012, but I could not find out anything else about them. Sorry.)

[KLAB]

Ref two current or soon (???) to be in service Russian surface vessels, there appear to be issues with the numbers and types of AAW systems, could the DB be amended please?

#2815 & #2305 SKR ADMIRAL GRIGOROVICH [Pr.1135.6M]

VLS for the 3S90M (SA-N-12 Grizzly)appears to be 36 cell not 24, (3 blocks of 12 close together in foredeck).

http://petrotimes.vn/ho-ve-ham-ten-lua- ... 73596.html
http://m1a2444.pixnet.net/blog/post/292 ... %E5%BF%AB6
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiral_G ... ss_frigate
http://www.mdc.idv.tw/mdc/navy/russia/11356m.htm
The construction photo shows the foredeck under wraps but counting the side "vents/hatches" seems to back up the theory of 3 sets of 12 in a close block and the builders model photos show a 36 cell for the Shtil system?
Unless anyone has any links or photos to indicate the contrary?

#2816 & #2310 SKR SERGEI GORSHKOV [Pr.22350]
VLS is 32 cell as in DB3K but should be capable of using both 9M96 (9M96M)(SA-N-21c), 9M96D (9M96DM) (SA-N-21d) missiles given its size and length.
The Gorshkov is intended as a Sovremennyy replacement with an AAW role, so it would be odd for it to have just relatively short range 9M96 SAM's.
Also the Grigorovich with its SA-N-12 40nm range was widely reported to be intended as a stop gap pending full production of the Gorshkov so it would seem odd for the newer replacement to have a shorter range (arguably more effective?) SA-N-21c with just 25nm range?

Can the Gorshkov be given 32 SA-N-21D or a combination mix of 24 D & 8 C's please?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiral_G ... ss_frigate

Regards
Karl

[Triode]

ORIGINAL: KLAB

Ref two current or soon (???) to be in service Russian surface vessels, there appear to be issues with the numbers and types of AAW systems, could the DB be amended please?

#2815 & #2305 SKR ADMIRAL GRIGOROVICH [Pr.1135.6M]

VLS for the 3S90M (SA-N-12 Grizzly)appears to be 36 cell not 24, (3 blocks of 12 close together in foredeck).


Regards
Karl

reality check :

0:09 , 0:12 12x2=24 "Shtil" VLS cells for "Grigorovich"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=9&v=PzLnKVXqE6I

[Broncepulido]

Yeah, thanks Triode, the same in Russian-Ships.info, but I didn't believe it, and is clear: (from nº01357 – 2x12 3S90E.1 «Shtil-1» SAM system VLS (24 missiles))
http://russianships.info/eng/warships/project_11356.htm

[KLAB]

Thanks all ref the Grigorovich, did notice the Russian ships entry for the Shtil was 24 cell as well but it was in a minority.

It does illustrate that creating an entry for the Project 23560E based on manufacturers PR models may be a bit premature?

Triode do you have any links to You Tube for construction of the Gorshkov ref the 9M96?

Regards
K

[trujillocorreo]

[FIXED DB v441 + WAD]

Hello fellow. Checking the catalog of export of systems of Defense air of ROSOBORONEXPORT, I have observed some points to correct DB3000 database.
For example the number of simultaneous channels in systems:
-S-300VM. 12 channels according to BD3000. 24 according to ROSOBORONEXPORT.
-BUK-M2E. 4 channels according to BD3000. 6 according to ROSOBORONEXPORT.






http://www.mediafire.com/?0wobrnne62i8ic7

Best regards.

[SASR]

[ADDED DB v441]

Request for USN Next Generation Jammer

IOC in 2021 for EA-18G only

"The Naval Air Systems Command awarded the contract modification to Raytheon, which had been awarded the initial $279 million contract in July 2013, then survived a protest by bidder BAE Systems and some budget reductions expected to delay its initial operating capability from 2020 to 2021."

As for the designation, there is none yet, so maybe something like AN/ALQ-XXX NGJ would do until we get more info

Here is a photo for loadout information
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3115

"The schematic above highlights an EA-18G Growler flying with Next Generation Jammers, fully loaded with preprogrammed electronic warfare measures developed at Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division Point Mugu. (U.S. Navy illustration)"
so it looks like we got......
2 X External Fuel Tanks
2 X Next Generation Jammers
2 x AGM-88Es

If you need any more information let me know and I will try to provide it.

[SASR]

[UPDATED DB v441]

ES-3601 on the Independence class LCS has received the destination AN/SLD-4(V)

http://sec.edgar-online.com/edo-corp/10 ... tion2.aspx
"The ES-3601 has received a U.S. Government nomenclature AN/SLD-4(V)"

[giantsquid]

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DEVELOPER'S NOTE: Database development slow-down!

Hey guys,

Just wanted to let you know that I have now re-directed my limited Command time (which is squeezed inbetween family life, day-job, workout, and various other interests) to write code. My code contributions have been rather limited lately and I need to add several new features and fix a few bugs before I can start working on the Advanced Strike Planner.

This means I will only fix reported errors/inaccuracies in existing platforms and only make critical additions, i.e. units needed for a scenario currently under construction. Nice-to-have stuff (that no-one will ever use in a scenario anyway haha) will not be added.

If there is anything you consider extremely important (...enough to justify spending time on adding / fixing, rather than having me working on code) then feel feee to post. If not then you'll find me burried deep down in the Command game engine.

Thanks! [:D]
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Hello everybody,

Where do I find the last version of the database?
It's not this one - http://www.warfaresims.com/?page_id=1876
Thanks

Francesco

[mikmykWS]

Its in the last beta but will also be shipped with 1.09 when available.

Mike

[Mgellis]

[NO IOC, MANUFACTURER'S DESIRE ONLY]

150-kw laser loadout for the Predator C.

Please, please figure out how to get this into the next version of the database! Seriously...flying killer robots with lasers. What's not to love?

It looks like this one is designed to hit ground targets as well as surface naval targets. Maybe for an initial version, until more data is available, just use the COIL as a template but add ground targets to the list of possible targets?

http://www.defensereview.com/new-laser- ... ing-laser/

I'm not sure how the 80-kw gatling laser is meant to be used...is it for ground vehicles in the AAA role?

May I also suggest, for hypothetical platforms, the ACL-130X Thor (i.e., a C-130 armed with a couple of these lasers...it's got enough space onboard for the power system) and maybe even the MVL-22X Osprey Terminator (i.e., an Osprey with all its cargo space eliminated so it can carry the power system for one laser...just the thing for taking off from an amphibious warfare ship, flying in low and fast, and taking out a few terrorists)?

Thanks for considering these ideas.

[Dysta]

Laser arm race will go extra ugly if OPFOR (for US) got them operational as well.

1980s' Star Wars hypocrisy will surely reborn.

[Excroat3]

[CONCEPT ONLY, NO OPERATIONAL]

New loadout for MQ-9:

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/new-maritime-capability-developed-for-mq-9-417133/

[e2204588]

[WAD, SENSOR IS ON PENETRATOR]

No sensor on #2868 - YJ-18 [3M54E Klub copy]
It is useless without any sensors.

[Rudd]

ORIGINAL: fool12342000

No sensor on #2868 - YJ-18 [3M54E Klub copy]
It is useless without any sensors.

Seems to work just fine for me, sensors are on the penetrator I believe

[thewood1]

ORIGINAL: Mgellis


150-kw laser loadout for the Predator C.

Please, please figure out how to get this into the next version of the database! Seriously...flying killer robots with lasers. What's not to love?

It looks like this one is designed to hit ground targets as well as surface naval targets. Maybe for an initial version, until more data is available, just use the COIL as a template but add ground targets to the list of possible targets?

http://www.defensereview.com/new-laser- ... ing-laser/

I'm not sure how the 80-kw gatling laser is meant to be used...is it for ground vehicles in the AAA role?

May I also suggest, for hypothetical platforms, the ACL-130X Thor (i.e., a C-130 armed with a couple of these lasers...it's got enough space onboard for the power system) and maybe even the MVL-22X Osprey Terminator (i.e., an Osprey with all its cargo space eliminated so it can carry the power system for one laser...just the thing for taking off from an amphibious warfare ship, flying in low and fast, and taking out a few terrorists)?

Thanks for considering these ideas.

My engineering opinion on this is that it is mostly marketing with still unproven abilities. The power capabilities of a drone, even one that size, is very limited...possibly impractical for maybe another 10 years.

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: thewood1

My engineering opinion on this is that it is mostly marketing with still unproven abilities. The power capabilities of a drone, even one that size, is very limited...possibly impractical for maybe another 10 years.

Agreed.

People usually forget about the optic-chemical amplifier underneath the laser turret, which is the core of the laser energy generator. For an energy to destroy a commercial quadcopter in 5 kilometers, it would need a big container of amp to generate such of power, like this picture below:



The much smaller laser platform will not guarantee its lethal energy output, but still can generate strong IR jamming beam, or focus many lasers to heat generator to produce power. These are viable options for a small platforms.

[e2204588]

ORIGINAL: Rudd

ORIGINAL: fool12342000

No sensor on #2868 - YJ-18 [3M54E Klub copy]
It is useless without any sensors.

Seems to work just fine for me, sensors are on the penetrator I believe

You're right, it is not DB problem.
For some reason, penetrator is not released sometimes.
I can not reproduce it again.

[conforoa]

[SOME ALREADY THERE, MINOR MODS DB v441, OLDER TYPES ASSIGNED TO PAUL]

Hello, Early French Strategic Missile, MSBS M1 have a Nuclear (not Thermonuclear) warhead MR.41 of 400 kt (in french sorry [;)])

MSBS M2 a Nuclear MR.41 of 500 kt

MSBS M20 a Thermonuclear warhead TN.60 of 1 mt


For all here, good job !!!

[conforoa]

[ALREADY THERE, MINOR MODS DB v441]

Not recent French Strategic Missile in DB [X(]
For all (another in french [:D])

MSBS M4A

MSBS M4B

MSBS M45

and the most recent MSBS M51