Everyone was at 100%.
I'm starting to think I brought serious overkill to this, but with my past of underestimating the enemy, I'll settle with this. It'll mean fewer losses on my end anyway. I can count on Trincomalee having half the forces that were at Colombo.
I'm only doing deliberate attack right now. I'll only shock if I'm certain I have enough of an advantage to seal the deal. In raw AVs, it looks like I have a 6-1 ratio, but I'm not sure how much the forts will slow this down.
I can say with certainty Ceylon will be mine. When I'm done here, I'll grab Attu and Diego. The defense battalion from Cape Town will eventually go to Diego.
I'll have to decide what's next. Calcutta will most likely be an uglier slog through the mud. Andaman Islands could be tempting to shut off the flow to/from Calcutta and Rangoon. I have to wonder if this is enough for CF to re-align KB to the west. If he does, I can try some adventures with the Gilberts and Marshalls. I only have to be sure first. I'm hoping by mid 1944, I'll have enough assault transports elsewhere to be a pain.
Contrary to my original plans, the War in the Pacific may have to be won in the west.
Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy(A) vs KenchiSulla (J)
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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
ORIGINAL: Mundy
I'm starting to think I brought serious overkill to this...
For morale considerations at the top command level -- if you follow my meaning -- better over than under. [;)] Looking good so far; I hope you can get Ceylon cleanly as you suppose, and then work your way up through Jap occupied India. Meanwhile show no mercy to those subs -- wipe them all out.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
Nicely done! Yea it was a little overkill but I definitely agree just getting a victory is important for you now.
If it were me now I would probably go for a land campaign in India. I don't think it will be as bad as you think given stacking limits and the open terrain. Maybe even land behind his lines with your Ceylon army. Its still going to be a while before you can challenge the Japanese at sea so land is where you should focus your resources.
If it were me now I would probably go for a land campaign in India. I don't think it will be as bad as you think given stacking limits and the open terrain. Maybe even land behind his lines with your Ceylon army. Its still going to be a while before you can challenge the Japanese at sea so land is where you should focus your resources.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
03 December 1943
My troops attack. Colombo was at fort level 6. I knocked it down to five and then simply took the base.
That was easy.
My late arriving ASW groups are chasing subs everywhere. No attacks by them except for one on my minesweepers. USN AMs come loaded for bear nowadays and went after it, just getting a minor hit. I think my ASW groups are pretty much deterring any of his subs from attacking. I've re-routed the patrol zones of my subs to overlap also. One of my subs took a shot at one of his, but missed last turn.
Colombo had about 22,000 supply when I took it. I should have it over 60,000 by the time my amphibs finish unloading. More will be on the way.
My jeep carriers are disbanded at Colombo. The amphib command group is unloading and will disband also. The amphibs will head back up north to haul in all the rest of the support forces.
All my USA paras are whole and moving to the northern port of Jaffna. The Indian paras are still being flown over. Two divisions are enroute to Koggala. About 2/3 of the rest are headed to Trincomalee. It's all just mopping up now. I was surprised because the two sub-units of the IJA 4th Division had AVs of 20 or less. They were pretty weak. I want to empty out Colombo, as I'm overstacked there right now.
Things are quiet in the air for now. I may decide to pound Raipur as he has a number of fighters based there. CF will be noticing all the recon visiting Calcutta and the surrounding bases there.
Time to wrap this up, recover and prepare for the next move.
My troops attack. Colombo was at fort level 6. I knocked it down to five and then simply took the base.
That was easy.
Ground combat at Colombo (29,48)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 28437 troops, 238 guns, 43 vehicles, Assault Value = 827
Defending force 147155 troops, 2745 guns, 2982 vehicles, Assault Value = 5858
Japanese ground losses:
910 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 73 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 15 (3 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Assaulting units:
15th Division
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
4th/A Division
4th/B Division
21st Fld AA Gun Co
26th Fld AA Gun Co
20th AA Regiment
34th Field AA Battalion
4th Air Defense AA Regiment
35th Field AA Battalion
63rd JNAF AF Unit
Defending units:
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
767th Tank Battalion
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st (Spec) Cavalry Division
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
5th Indian Division
25th Infantry Division
268th Motorised Brigade
Provisionl Tank Brigade
1st USMC Tank Battalion
2nd Marine Division
33rd Infantry Division
11th (East African) Division
766th Tank Battalion
3rd Marine Division
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
18th British Division
762nd Tank Battalion
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion
Americal Infantry Division
24th Infantry Division
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
4th Marine Division
7th Infantry Division
2nd British Division
1st Marine Div /5
205th Field Artillery Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
181st Field Artillery Battalion
251st Coast AA Regiment
96th Coast AA Regiment
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Ground combat at Colombo (29,48)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 145646 troops, 2626 guns, 2922 vehicles, Assault Value = 5855
Defending force 30661 troops, 371 guns, 86 vehicles, Assault Value = 768
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5
Allied adjusted assault: 1820
Japanese adjusted defense: 234
Allied assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 5)
Allied forces CAPTURE Colombo !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
12226 casualties reported
Squads: 303 destroyed, 199 disabled
Non Combat: 318 destroyed, 58 disabled
Engineers: 62 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 326 (260 destroyed, 66 disabled)
Vehicles lost 78 (77 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 10
Allied ground losses:
4860 casualties reported
Squads: 138 destroyed, 303 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 98 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 145 (29 destroyed, 116 disabled)
Vehicles lost 330 (58 destroyed, 272 disabled)
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
33rd Infantry Division
762nd Tank Battalion
Americal Infantry Division
767th Tank Battalion
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
11th (East African) Division
766th Tank Battalion
25th Infantry Division
1st (Spec) Cavalry Division
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
2nd British Division
2nd Marine Division
Provisionl Tank Brigade
7th Infantry Division
18th British Division
5th Indian Division
268th Motorised Brigade
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd Marine Division
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
24th Infantry Division
4th Marine Division
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st Marine Div /5
251st Coast AA Regiment
205th Field Artillery Battalion
181st Field Artillery Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
96th Coast AA Regiment
Defending units:
15th Division
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
4th/A Division
4th/B Division
34th Field AA Battalion
26th Fld AA Gun Co
4th Air Defense AA Regiment
20th AA Regiment
21st Fld AA Gun Co
35th Field AA Battalion
63rd JNAF AF Unit
My late arriving ASW groups are chasing subs everywhere. No attacks by them except for one on my minesweepers. USN AMs come loaded for bear nowadays and went after it, just getting a minor hit. I think my ASW groups are pretty much deterring any of his subs from attacking. I've re-routed the patrol zones of my subs to overlap also. One of my subs took a shot at one of his, but missed last turn.
Colombo had about 22,000 supply when I took it. I should have it over 60,000 by the time my amphibs finish unloading. More will be on the way.
My jeep carriers are disbanded at Colombo. The amphib command group is unloading and will disband also. The amphibs will head back up north to haul in all the rest of the support forces.
All my USA paras are whole and moving to the northern port of Jaffna. The Indian paras are still being flown over. Two divisions are enroute to Koggala. About 2/3 of the rest are headed to Trincomalee. It's all just mopping up now. I was surprised because the two sub-units of the IJA 4th Division had AVs of 20 or less. They were pretty weak. I want to empty out Colombo, as I'm overstacked there right now.
Things are quiet in the air for now. I may decide to pound Raipur as he has a number of fighters based there. CF will be noticing all the recon visiting Calcutta and the surrounding bases there.
Time to wrap this up, recover and prepare for the next move.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
2745 guns! Nicely done! [:D]
What direction did the retreated units take? Might they re-take the base in central Ceylon?
What direction did the retreated units take? Might they re-take the base in central Ceylon?
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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
They went southeast. My guys going to Trincomalee will cut them off if they try that.
I'm hoping I can bag a bunch of subs soon.
I'm hoping I can bag a bunch of subs soon.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
04 December 1943
The cleanup.
Amphibs are getting near the end of their unload. Colombo has the yellow exclamation mark instead of the red one now. I'm waiting for the troops to move to ease the stacking situation.
I've reassigned all my subs in the region to Colombo. I had 26 surrounding the island, which I've recalled, plus another two at Bombay now enroute. Four more in in the Calcutta/Rangoon area, and while reassigning their home base, I'll let them cruise. When my hoard gets fixed back up, I'll dump them in the area from Calcutta to the Malay straits.
ASW bagged another sub today, and beat up a second. I'm seeing fewer around -- something like 4 now.
Preliminary recon of the Calcutta area seems to indicate they're fairly weakly held. It's only the first day, so I'll give intel time to develop.
A second supply convoy is loading up at Cape Town for Colombo. A fuel convoy at Abadan is doing likewise on the fuel side.
Once Ceylon is secured, I'll have to figure out how to keep my troops to ease the stacking situation. I may have to base out of Madras for part of my forces.
The cleanup.
Amphibs are getting near the end of their unload. Colombo has the yellow exclamation mark instead of the red one now. I'm waiting for the troops to move to ease the stacking situation.
I've reassigned all my subs in the region to Colombo. I had 26 surrounding the island, which I've recalled, plus another two at Bombay now enroute. Four more in in the Calcutta/Rangoon area, and while reassigning their home base, I'll let them cruise. When my hoard gets fixed back up, I'll dump them in the area from Calcutta to the Malay straits.
ASW bagged another sub today, and beat up a second. I'm seeing fewer around -- something like 4 now.
Sub attack near Colombo at 28,47
Japanese Ships
SS I-162, hits 33, and is sunk
Allied Ships
DD Taylor
DD Meredith
DD Wadsworth
DD Thatcher
SS I-162 launches 4 torpedoes at DD Taylor
I-162 bottoming out ....
DD Meredith fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Wadsworth attacking submerged sub ....
DD Meredith attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-162 forced to surface!
DD Meredith firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Wadsworth firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Thatcher firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Meredith firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Wadsworth firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Thatcher firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Wadsworth firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Thatcher firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves
ASW attack near Colombo at 27,47
Japanese Ships
SS I-23, hits 3
Allied Ships
DD Isaac Sweers
DD Helm
DD Norman
SS I-23 is located by DD Isaac Sweers
I-23 diving deep ....
DD Isaac Sweers fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Norman fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Isaac Sweers fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Norman fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Norman attacking submerged sub ....
DD Norman attacking submerged sub ....
DD Norman is out of ASW ammo
DD Norman is out of ASW ammo
DD Norman is out of ASW ammo
DD Norman is out of ASW ammo
DD Norman fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Norman fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
Preliminary recon of the Calcutta area seems to indicate they're fairly weakly held. It's only the first day, so I'll give intel time to develop.
A second supply convoy is loading up at Cape Town for Colombo. A fuel convoy at Abadan is doing likewise on the fuel side.
Once Ceylon is secured, I'll have to figure out how to keep my troops to ease the stacking situation. I may have to base out of Madras for part of my forces.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
That was a seriously powerful army you landed in Colombo. Should that show up in the Indian subcontinent it would likely be enough to win you a victory there.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
I'm thinking so at this point.
Recon's indicating 15,000 troops in Calcutta, 1,800 at Diamond Harbor and 2,200 at Jessore. Doesn't look like much, does it? If I land there, I'll probably also take those coastal bases to the south at the same time. If/when he reacts to those, the rest of the troops in western India will be on the move then. I still have a rather large stack at Bezwada.
05 December 1943
I'm reminding CF that there's still a war going on in places not named "India".
I guess Nicks can't get the job done.
I-153 had two separate incidents west of Ceylon and took a combined twelve hit, all "soft" ones without the penetration type results. I'd guess damaged is racked up a bit on that one.
Some of the amphibs are heading north. Two are still at Colombo, but they're almost done. Soon I'll have a decent base set up there. A big supply convoy just finished unloading at Karachi. I've had enough supply runs going that it's almost a conveyor belt now. Indian paras are still getting flown across. They were a bigger job than I thought.
Recon's indicating 15,000 troops in Calcutta, 1,800 at Diamond Harbor and 2,200 at Jessore. Doesn't look like much, does it? If I land there, I'll probably also take those coastal bases to the south at the same time. If/when he reacts to those, the rest of the troops in western India will be on the move then. I still have a rather large stack at Bezwada.
05 December 1943
I'm reminding CF that there's still a war going on in places not named "India".
Morning Air attack on Suva , at 132,160
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 27
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 9 damaged
Japanese Ships
xAP Ohtaka Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Melbourne Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Port hits 4
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
264th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
14 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on Suva , at 132,160
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 6
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
xAP Ohtaka Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Melbourne Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 15000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
264th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 129 minutes
I guess Nicks can't get the job done.
I-153 had two separate incidents west of Ceylon and took a combined twelve hit, all "soft" ones without the penetration type results. I'd guess damaged is racked up a bit on that one.
Some of the amphibs are heading north. Two are still at Colombo, but they're almost done. Soon I'll have a decent base set up there. A big supply convoy just finished unloading at Karachi. I've had enough supply runs going that it's almost a conveyor belt now. Indian paras are still getting flown across. They were a bigger job than I thought.
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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 129 minutes
I guess Nicks can't get the job done.
congratulations on a good result, but I wouldn't count on Cannonfodder to stick with an 8000-foot patrol altitude. [:-]
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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
I guess I didn't look that closely. [:)] Anyway, it was just a one-and-done deal. Both of us have gotten into the habit of not repeating a raid like this.
06 December 1943
I may think twice about using the Indian paras next time. They're still getting flown over, support mostly from the looks of it. I want to clear the transports out of Madras and move the bombers in and oriented towards Calcutta. Recon's indicating a similar amount of troops as before. Calcutta has about 50 fighters and about 120 bombers living there right now.
I've sent the first 10 subs out from Colombo now. Six are covering the run from Rangoon to Malaya. The other four are headed towards Calcutta with the three already there. It looks like all his subs have bailed the Ceylon area. Two of my ASW groups were three hexes SE of Ceylon, which was way out of their patrol area. Probably chasing something out that ways. My fleet carriers are also headed to Colombo. Oklahoma's on her way to Cape Town. I don't have the drydock space to hold her for her repairs.
I meant to review my naval reinforcements, but forgot. I know my first Iowa is due in this month, plus another Essex along with one or two CVLs. The carriers will go to Pearl to build around Hornet. I guess she's my version of Big E in this game.
Two tank units outran my troops and reached Trincomalee. They'll sit tight as what's there is probably too much for them, despite having about 140 Stuarts present.
06 December 1943
I may think twice about using the Indian paras next time. They're still getting flown over, support mostly from the looks of it. I want to clear the transports out of Madras and move the bombers in and oriented towards Calcutta. Recon's indicating a similar amount of troops as before. Calcutta has about 50 fighters and about 120 bombers living there right now.
I've sent the first 10 subs out from Colombo now. Six are covering the run from Rangoon to Malaya. The other four are headed towards Calcutta with the three already there. It looks like all his subs have bailed the Ceylon area. Two of my ASW groups were three hexes SE of Ceylon, which was way out of their patrol area. Probably chasing something out that ways. My fleet carriers are also headed to Colombo. Oklahoma's on her way to Cape Town. I don't have the drydock space to hold her for her repairs.
I meant to review my naval reinforcements, but forgot. I know my first Iowa is due in this month, plus another Essex along with one or two CVLs. The carriers will go to Pearl to build around Hornet. I guess she's my version of Big E in this game.
Two tank units outran my troops and reached Trincomalee. They'll sit tight as what's there is probably too much for them, despite having about 140 Stuarts present.
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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
ORIGINAL: Sangeli
That was a seriously powerful army you landed in Colombo. Should that show up in the Indian subcontinent it would likely be enough to win you a victory there.
+1
5800 AV is a steamroller!
Hans
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
Better to have too much, I guess.
I've always had a habit of underestimating what I need, as my Baker Island adventure shows. Oddly enough, my supply runs have them growing and they're nearing parity to the Japanese on that island. Something like 115-130. If I can keep the supplies up while prevent him from getting any with my bombers at Canton, I may just be able to attrit him to death.
I want to wrap up Ceylon fairly quickly. The nice part about taking it is that it makes the Royal Navy relevant again. Troops seem to be moving about 12 miles a day, so it's taking a while to move them to the east side.
I'll need to tread carefully with the Calcutta op. I could see CF leaving that area deceptively weak, with KB waiting to pounce. I may consider landing at Cocanada/Vizagapatnam and just move overland to the east. That would give my forces at Bezwada a larger role in the deal. I have time to think about it, as it'll take at least a month to get everyone organized.
I've always had a habit of underestimating what I need, as my Baker Island adventure shows. Oddly enough, my supply runs have them growing and they're nearing parity to the Japanese on that island. Something like 115-130. If I can keep the supplies up while prevent him from getting any with my bombers at Canton, I may just be able to attrit him to death.
I want to wrap up Ceylon fairly quickly. The nice part about taking it is that it makes the Royal Navy relevant again. Troops seem to be moving about 12 miles a day, so it's taking a while to move them to the east side.
I'll need to tread carefully with the Calcutta op. I could see CF leaving that area deceptively weak, with KB waiting to pounce. I may consider landing at Cocanada/Vizagapatnam and just move overland to the east. That would give my forces at Bezwada a larger role in the deal. I have time to think about it, as it'll take at least a month to get everyone organized.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
For the prospective India op, what is wrong with moving by land from Madras, or whatever is your northernmost coastal base on that side? Troops on land can't drown, and the Bay of Bengal can be a deathtrap for shipping if the Japanese block the southern end.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
Probably nothing wrong with that. I suppose I could take half the force and rail them to someplace like Benares for a two-pronged deal.
I've got time to mull. I'm favoring something safer at this point. My paras could grab some rail junction behind the lines also. It'll just take longer and won't have the lightning strike effect of a big landing
I've got time to mull. I'm favoring something safer at this point. My paras could grab some rail junction behind the lines also. It'll just take longer and won't have the lightning strike effect of a big landing
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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
You're moving into '44 and it's time to set a pace for victory.
If you have the assets and strength for a landing close to your objective than don't be shy about bulling your way there.
Two months of ground slogging to get to the objective is a luxury you can no longer afford.
That being said, cover your behind and set a trap for they KB if you can.
My personal preference is Andmans over Calcutta.
Less chance of a naval air battle trapping you in the upper gulf.
Quickly built-up and well stocked with air it would completely alter the balance of power in the upper gulf placing air assets astride his sea lanes.
Places immediate pressure on Rangoon and southern Burma.
Calcutta, like taking the slow road to Calcutta represents the slow and methodical approach.
Time dictates the need to take a shot at the jugular instead of chopping off the limbs.
If you have the assets and strength for a landing close to your objective than don't be shy about bulling your way there.
Two months of ground slogging to get to the objective is a luxury you can no longer afford.
That being said, cover your behind and set a trap for they KB if you can.
My personal preference is Andmans over Calcutta.
Less chance of a naval air battle trapping you in the upper gulf.
Quickly built-up and well stocked with air it would completely alter the balance of power in the upper gulf placing air assets astride his sea lanes.
Places immediate pressure on Rangoon and southern Burma.
Calcutta, like taking the slow road to Calcutta represents the slow and methodical approach.
Time dictates the need to take a shot at the jugular instead of chopping off the limbs.
Hans
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
Several players have had the painful experience of Japanese BBs delivering nuclear bombardments to their troops on the coast of the Bay of Bombay. The road along the bay is dangerous, stay inland if you go that way.ORIGINAL: Mundy
Probably nothing wrong with that. I suppose I could take half the force and rail them to someplace like Benares for a two-pronged deal.
I've got time to mull. I'm favoring something safer at this point. My paras could grab some rail junction behind the lines also. It'll just take longer and won't have the lightning strike effect of a big landing
Like HansBolter, I was also thinking of an invasion of the Andamans, but I am not sure you have enough to challenge the full KB yet. I think you need another active front to keep KB busy far away before invading the Andamans.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
The Andamans were on my initial hit list, but the rest of the readership had shaky views on it.
Calcutta and its surrounding bases seem to be rather weakly held at this point and a quick strike could probably grab them quickly. With all the LCUs I have, I could contemplate taking Calcutta, Chittagong, Cox's, Akyab and the Andamans simultaneously. For the islands, I'd probably have the base forces enroute two days behind the invaders to set up shop quickly. I would also consider landing my naval air at the base for protection until the more permanent units get shipped over. I'd want at least two or three islands so that I have an interlocking protection scheme similar to what I have set up near Pago Pago.
I'd like to take Calcutta in the hopes that it eases the supply difficulties I'm having in India.
If I can get to Rangoon, I could think about a large force to start freeing areas of China. I'd probably get a load of Chinese troops if Chungking fell. Singapore would probably be part two of that move.
If KB orients to the west, I can make trouble in the Marshalls. Some good intel would be nice right about now.
Calcutta and its surrounding bases seem to be rather weakly held at this point and a quick strike could probably grab them quickly. With all the LCUs I have, I could contemplate taking Calcutta, Chittagong, Cox's, Akyab and the Andamans simultaneously. For the islands, I'd probably have the base forces enroute two days behind the invaders to set up shop quickly. I would also consider landing my naval air at the base for protection until the more permanent units get shipped over. I'd want at least two or three islands so that I have an interlocking protection scheme similar to what I have set up near Pago Pago.
I'd like to take Calcutta in the hopes that it eases the supply difficulties I'm having in India.
If I can get to Rangoon, I could think about a large force to start freeing areas of China. I'd probably get a load of Chinese troops if Chungking fell. Singapore would probably be part two of that move.
If KB orients to the west, I can make trouble in the Marshalls. Some good intel would be nice right about now.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
I believe moving into the Andamans in the near future would be very big mistake. Sure you can get stuck in the Bay of Bengal but that's further from the KBs staging areas than the Andamans are meaning the risk is definitely less. IMO you can't make a move like that until you are putting heavy pressure on the IJN in the Pacific which is still a ways away.
My thoughts are that you should aim to capture the Calcutta region and get some bases there and then you can think about bypassing Burma by landing in the Andamans. First start a land campaign while keeping some units in reserve prepping them for landings. Should the land campaign go well you can commit them there and if not you can land at Diamond Harbor in 3 months time.
My thoughts are that you should aim to capture the Calcutta region and get some bases there and then you can think about bypassing Burma by landing in the Andamans. First start a land campaign while keeping some units in reserve prepping them for landings. Should the land campaign go well you can commit them there and if not you can land at Diamond Harbor in 3 months time.
RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder
At this point I want to be able to grab things quickly, so the war doesn't go until 1950.
I'm going to try to get recon up across more of India. I'm not certain where his real "hard point" is with regard to troop quantities. Cocanada has the biggest group I've come across as of late. I can't believe he's focused in some little interior base somewhere.
I can restart my overland attack from Bezwada again. If Vizagapatnam still appears empty, I can drop paras there and choke off supply. It may take time to wear them down, but I'll probably do it in the end. I'll try to time this when I land at Diamond Harbor. I won't have to deal with the naval bombardments this time around.
Either way, I'll need a few months to get everyone gathered up, rested and refitted and trained up for the next move. Tonight if I remember, I'll post what's coming for reinforcements between now and April.
I'm toying with the idea of grabbing one of the Jimas up north. I'm building up a bunch of support forces in Seattle which would be useful for there. B-24s up there could wind up being a pain.
The difficult part is that most of my good assault transports are tied up in India. I'm getting plenty of LSTs, AKs and the like built up at Pearl, but I don't have any of the good people movers over there yet. I would think 1944 would see lots of these coming in. I'm not sure what's on the horizon for good combat divisions, either. I think I mostly have all I'm going to send to India either there or on the way now. My first Iowa will probably be sent that way also. I think an old slow RN BB is about to arrive also. (Resolution?). Once I have half a dozen fleet carriers at Pearl Harbor, can I start getting frisky there.
I'm going to try to get recon up across more of India. I'm not certain where his real "hard point" is with regard to troop quantities. Cocanada has the biggest group I've come across as of late. I can't believe he's focused in some little interior base somewhere.
I can restart my overland attack from Bezwada again. If Vizagapatnam still appears empty, I can drop paras there and choke off supply. It may take time to wear them down, but I'll probably do it in the end. I'll try to time this when I land at Diamond Harbor. I won't have to deal with the naval bombardments this time around.
Either way, I'll need a few months to get everyone gathered up, rested and refitted and trained up for the next move. Tonight if I remember, I'll post what's coming for reinforcements between now and April.
I'm toying with the idea of grabbing one of the Jimas up north. I'm building up a bunch of support forces in Seattle which would be useful for there. B-24s up there could wind up being a pain.
The difficult part is that most of my good assault transports are tied up in India. I'm getting plenty of LSTs, AKs and the like built up at Pearl, but I don't have any of the good people movers over there yet. I would think 1944 would see lots of these coming in. I'm not sure what's on the horizon for good combat divisions, either. I think I mostly have all I'm going to send to India either there or on the way now. My first Iowa will probably be sent that way also. I think an old slow RN BB is about to arrive also. (Resolution?). Once I have half a dozen fleet carriers at Pearl Harbor, can I start getting frisky there.