Naval and Defense News

[Cheechako]

ORIGINAL: B52H

The LCS will get OTH ASMs on its next deployment:
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defens ... /74477482/

Seems like the OTH will now be part of the surface warfare package. I think I read earlier that Australia was looking at adding a RF seeker to the JSM. If that could be added to the NSM, that could make it a nice passive missile with another seeker to increase pk.

[Broncepulido]

JLENS lose, how not?: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... nce-blimp/

[B52H]

China has tested a native combat aircraft derived from the SU-27 family: http://www.nationalinterest.org/blog/th ... u-34-14189

[Kitchens Sink]

Great picture concerning the Rogue JLENS. New tech vs. Old Tech

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: B52H

China has tested a native combat aircraft derived from the SU-27 family: http://www.nationalinterest.org/blog/th ... u-34-14189

Their reaction seems as immature as most of the Chinese military fanboys, it is indeed have an alleged test flight of Sino-Fullback, but numerous comments are heavily doubting it.

The LERX configuration instead of triple planes can be seen here:

[Triode]

About 3M-14 from representative of the General Staff of the Russian Navy, Rear Admiral Viktor Kochemazov:

"- Depending on the target, against which is used weapon: land or sea - depending on the route, taking into account the need to avoid obstacles on the ground, the whole shooting range of these missiles is less than 2,000 kilometers, - said the admiral."

Land or sea target? It seems 3M-14 radar , ARGS-14, while have only 20 km range makes 3M-14 anti ship capable , well ships also "radar contrasting targets" so not big surprise.


"Cruise missiles of this type are in service in Vietnam and India. However, the range of export version is limited to 300 kilometers."

So, Indian pr 11356 frigates and Vietnam pr 636.3 subs have export 3M-14E

http://www.rg.ru/2015/10/26/raketa-site-anons.html in russian

[Dimitris]

ORIGINAL: Dysta

ORIGINAL: B52H

China has tested a native combat aircraft derived from the SU-27 family: http://www.nationalinterest.org/blog/th ... u-34-14189

Their reaction seems as immature as most of the Chinese military fanboys, it is indeed have an alleged test flight of Sino-Fullback, but numerous comments are heavily doubting it.

The LERX configuration instead of triple planes can be seen here:

This looks heavily like a Photoshop job.

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: Sunburn

This looks heavily like a Photoshop job.

Seems I cannot lure anyone with these fanboy facades at this forum, but the media step right in it, and this I must point out.

What annoy me most is they just don't care, and treat these rumors as threat-baiting from Chinese.

[Hongjian]

http://www.marineforum.info/Daily_News/daily_news.html

Blog: all four SOVREMENNIY class destroyers currently in comprehensive refit.

http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2015/ ... class.html

The four imported Sovremenny Class DDG are currently undergo a midlife refit -- judging from the photos below, everything that can be removed has been removed. It would be interesting to see how many original Russian equipment will stay abroad and how many Chinese domestic counterparts will be introduced after the refit.

Looks like they will get some major MLU refit. VLS refit is pretty much a given. But the Sunburns have also been removed. Wonder what will replace them.

[Dysta]

For Sov-lovers, this is a brutal abuse to the iconic cold war destroyer.

But well, I hardly see Zumwalt as the icon of future naval warfare either.

[Hongjian]

The Sovremennys served the PLAN quite well as fast cruisers, despite their obsolete steam-plant propulsion. There's much hull life in them, and I can imagine that these 8000 ton ships will get at least 2x32 GJB-5860-2006 VLS like the 052D, as well as two PJ-38s and become full-fledged capital ships to escort the carrier (for once, because they are amongs the fastest ships in PLAN service). AShM is a question, but people so far rumor that they will possibly be the first to receive the ship-launched YJ-12A AShM (the one with the booster-stage in the rear) in place of the Moskits, so that their supersonic anti-ship loadout will not be changed.

With 64 large caliber VLS capable of loading YJ-18A AShM and eight dedicated YJ-12A slanted launch containers, the Sovremennys would be the most powerful classes in the PLAN in terms of missile armament, after the future Type 055.

[Broncepulido]

China has deployed PLANAF J-11 fighters to Woody Island (Phu Lam Island to Vietnam), largest island of the Paracels in the East Vietnam Sea. No reaction yet from the Vietnamese government (looking for a Chinese link probably from www.81.cn, photo showing J-11 with air-to-air loadout (2xPL-8+2xPL-15) landing in Phu Lam).

[Broncepulido]

Perhaps a fake news report, same photo I saw but text says nothing about the deployement: http://www.81.cn/syjdt/2015-10/31/content_6747809_5.htm

[Hongjian]

Type 022 FACs have been deployed to Yongxing/Woody Island, though.



You can see the lighthouse in this aerial photo:

[NakedWeasel]

I'm sorry, a lighthouse is significant why?

[Excroat3]

ORIGINAL: NakedWeasel

I'm sorry, a lighthouse is significant why?

It's proof of location, showing that the Type 22 is at Woody Island, and not some random other island

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

The Sovremennys served the PLAN quite well as fast cruisers, despite their obsolete steam-plant propulsion. There's much hull life in them, and I can imagine that these 8000 ton ships will get at least 2x32 GJB-5860-2006 VLS like the 052D, as well as two PJ-38s and become full-fledged capital ships to escort the carrier (for once, because they are amongs the fastest ships in PLAN service). AShM is a question, but people so far rumor that they will possibly be the first to receive the ship-launched YJ-12A AShM (the one with the booster-stage in the rear) in place of the Moskits, so that their supersonic anti-ship loadout will not be changed.

With 64 large caliber VLS capable of loading YJ-18A AShM and eight dedicated YJ-12A slanted launch containers, the Sovremennys would be the most powerful classes in the PLAN in terms of missile armament, after the future Type 055.

Ever solve the C3M issues? Last I heard they couldn't share data with the rest of the fleet. Not sure if this was fact or rumor but they tend to deploy with each other and other older units.

Thanks!

Mike

[Death6]

Any updates on the military build up on the artificial islands in the China Sea?

[Broncepulido]

Some troves in the unspected miscellaneous "Gallery" I and II sections, including construction numbers of the ten J-15 carrier fighters (updated today casually!):

http://chinese-military-aviation.blogsp ... ery-i.html

[Triode]

news from Russia

According to director of SRZ "Nerpa" Arkady Oganyan
http://www.redstar.ru/images/files/regi ... na-s-z.pdf page 3 in russian

before the end of this year "Nerpa" transfer to Navy two nuclear subs , K-335 "Gepard"(pr.9711 mistakenly known as 971M) and B-336 "Pskov" (pr.945A)

also according to VPK magazine
http://vpk-news.ru/news/25314 in russian
and Russian MoD site
http://structure.mil.ru/structure/force ... 524@egNews in russian

before the end of this year DVZ "Zvezda" transfer to Navy two nuclear subs , K-331 "Magadan" (pr 9710 aka Akula) and K-419 "Kuzbass"(pr971 aka Improved Akula)

what is interesting is modernization that submarines receive

As example, B-335 "Pskov" is first from pr.945/945A recive 945M upgrade ,sonar system MGK-540M "Kizhuch-945M" instead of MGK-540 "Skat-3",Kalibr-PL complex and UGST torpedoes

K-331 "Magadan" and K-419 "Kuzbass" recive 971M upgrade, sonar system MGK-540M "Kizhuch-971M" instead of MGK-540 "Skat-3", Kalibr and UGST torpedoes
both K-331 and K-419 now 971M ,but also there is difrences between them, K-331 built according to VAH-74 (Vibro-Accoustic Characteristics Demands-74) ,K-419 built by
VAH-80 (and FYI about diffrences in pr971 subs: K-157 "Vepr" built by VAH-80, have SAG -system of active suppression of noise in the range of 50-500 Hz ,and K-335"Gepard" built by VAH-80 ,have SAG and longer improved TASS)

So, even if they both now 971M ,Improved Akula still better than Akula [:)]

Info about upgrades from annual report of Taganrog Plant "Priboi"
http://disclosure.1prime.ru/Portal/GetD ... d3e9cc21a4 p.23-32 in russian
state contract 31401544741 (DVZ "Zvezda" buying MGK-540M for K-331 "Magadan" )
http://www.my-tender.ru/#!/tenders223/31401544741 in russian


K-335 "Gepard" does not recive 971M upgrade , only new Kalibr-PL missiles and UGST torpedoes
"Gepard" already have improved MGK-540 (early version of MGK-540M), sometimes because of that called pr.971M, but project number for "Gepard" is 9711,
Upgrade 971M is atempt to make other 971 as good as "Gepard"


So before the end of this year we could see significant improvments in ranks of Russian Navy submarines [:)]


It is possible that 971M upgrade includes not only MGK-540M installation.

P.S. about differences between VAH-74 and VAH-80 for pr.971, from magazine "Sudostroenie"("Shipbuilding") №1, 1998:
"In June, it passed the technical review of the project in 1 CNII MoD(Navy shipbuilding). Since that time, most disagreements on the draft had been settled, the discussion went on a normal working order. However, 1 CNII MoD suddenly required to reduce the noise level specification for submarine more than doubled, proving it a large number of implemented projects and reserves laid down in terms of noise. Note has been formulated as an ultimatum, otherwise the project is not recommended for approval. Chief designer, discussed these requirements with the Krylov Shipbuilding Research Institute and other industry organizations, has agreed to accept them. The concession was a very serious, as the number of frequency requirements on noise were tightened by 8-10 dB."