Freeze after placement saved BP phase --> fail conquest Denmark

[abulbulian]

I reported on this in the WiF development forum. It's a game stopper for us atm.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=3956591


I attached the axis and allied saves (manual) we had just before allied final production.

[abulbulian]

Bill and I restart from a previous production autosave and were able to get past this production (above) issue. But we finally got stopped after the conquest of Denmark was process. Too bad we were getting some momentum. I hope Shannon can determine the root cause and we can get our game moving again. Goal is 45 before x-mas

version 2.0.2.6
Severity : game stopper
Mode of Play : Net Play
Scenario : global war
Optional Rules : standard
Number of Players : 2
Place in Sequence of Play : conquest
Problem Description: Game hangs for allies after axis clicks through messages around Denmark conquest and then ends the phase. Allied player see some of the Denmark related messages, then can't do anything. Netplay console for axis after ending conquest phase says 'waiting' on the allies. Can't get past this point and have gone back to production saves and still get stuck on conquest phase for allies. I've attached the axis conquest autosave, I can also attach the allies conquest autosave if needed.

[abulbulian]

Channeling my developer skills and intuition here's what I suspect is the root cause for the bug. Yes, I was a developer before moving to mgmt.

The conquest of Denmark was a bit awkward by Germany.

- German unit moved into the capital (first) which cause naval assets to be captured, rebased, and destroyed.
- Fleeing naval units escaped to another Denmark port (northern most - not in front of map).
- A second German unit moved into this port with the naval units that just fled.
- Another round of naval assets to be captured, rebased, and destroyed.
- One of the naval units, not captured, (a DD I believe) did not leave the Denmark port (why not?).
- When the conquest phase started (axis side) it had the non-captured naval unit still in the port in Denmark. The German ground unit had vacated that port hex prior to the Conquest phase.
- I could see the naval unit get a blue strip (commonwealth - uk) as well as being disorganized.
- After ending the axis conquest phase, it froze on the allied side.

My theory is that the Danish naval unit (now under UK control) in a capture Denmark port is suppose to be either destroyed (since disorganized) or rebase since it's in an enemy controlled hex. Some algorithm when it becomes the allied conquest phase is not able to handle this situation.

I'm going to go back to a prior autosave with my netplay partner Bill and execute the conquest of Denmark differently. I'll take the other ports in Denmark, before taking the capital (w/the naval assets). Thus, the scenario on the Conquest phase won't have non-captured (axis) Danish ships in a port in conquered Denmark.

Please stand by...

Anything to add Shannon or others here?

[paulderynck]

In our playtest we had one captured and 3 destroyed CPs sitting in Frederickshaven, but the conquest processed fine and we are now in ND39. The destroyed CPs showing are a reported bug. Same thing happened with the Polish CA.

[Centuur]

ORIGINAL: abulbulian

Channeling my developer skills and intuition here's what I suspect is the root cause for the bug. Yes, I was a developer before moving to mgmt.

The conquest of Denmark was a bit awkward by Germany.


- One of the naval units, not captured, (a DD I believe) did not leave the Denmark port (why not?).

If this unit was not captured, than that's the bug which probably caused the problems in the conquest phase, especially if there is both a German and a Danish unit in that hex. They are probably not available, but if there are saved games from before the movement phase, I believe Steve would be very pleased with those.

[abulbulian]

So Bill and I went back to a autosave prior to land movement into Denmark. This time I left the capital for last. A few strange things about Denmark

- Bill (allies) says he was prompted to place 3 naval units, but when an axis unit moved into the port/capital dice were rolled for > 3 naval units. We think 7-8.

- After the naval rebase, capture, destroyed phase there were still 5 allied ships showing on the axis screen that had been prompted destroyed, since they had no where to rebase.

What happen this time is we got stuck after ending the axis naval 'return to base' phase. I'm almost positive this is another bug occurring because the the axis is showing those ships existing on the map (screen shot) and allies are not?

How can we edit our last autosave file to sync on the naval units in Copenhagen? I'm guessing that will solve our current game stopper.

Thanks

[paulderynck]

That screen is showing one captured CP (grey bar at top) and 4 destroyed CPs plus a destroyed Peder Skram all stacked with the 1-4 Div. Your opponent probably sees only the 1-4 & captured CP on his screen.

The lower number of prompts versus units might be because 2 CPs = 1 naval unit. Each CP is rolled individually for capture or sunk (since they can't escape). AFAICT the bug with enemy destroyed units staying on the other player's screen has yet to be fixed, but in our experience it has not stopped the game.

In your screen shot the main form is showing that the phase is DoW on Major Powers and your waiting for the Germans. Could it be the DoW form is behind your main map? When I see the DoW phase but no DoW form I look for it behind something else. You can try the following to get it to show up:
- roll up the Main Map, or
- alt-tab through the choices back to MWiF, or
- press F10 and close the resulting form

I don't know of a way to edit the file to fix the syncing. As we've advanced the game, it's worked itself out.

[abulbulian]

Paul,
The game did not freeze in the phase on the screen shot. The game froze after ending the 'return to base' phase. It was a game stopper.