Naval and Defense News

[Broncepulido]

More on the hypothetical J-18? concept (Su-34 alike):
http://chinese-military-aviation.blogsp ... craft.html
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-V7PktF05HvA/V ... 0/J-18.jpg

[Hongjian]

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

The Sovremennys served the PLAN quite well as fast cruisers, despite their obsolete steam-plant propulsion. There's much hull life in them, and I can imagine that these 8000 ton ships will get at least 2x32 GJB-5860-2006 VLS like the 052D, as well as two PJ-38s and become full-fledged capital ships to escort the carrier (for once, because they are amongs the fastest ships in PLAN service). AShM is a question, but people so far rumor that they will possibly be the first to receive the ship-launched YJ-12A AShM (the one with the booster-stage in the rear) in place of the Moskits, so that their supersonic anti-ship loadout will not be changed.

With 64 large caliber VLS capable of loading YJ-18A AShM and eight dedicated YJ-12A slanted launch containers, the Sovremennys would be the most powerful classes in the PLAN in terms of missile armament, after the future Type 055.

Ever solve the C3M issues? Last I heard they couldn't share data with the rest of the fleet. Not sure if this was fact or rumor but they tend to deploy with each other and other older units.

Thanks!

Mike

Some minor modifications on the datalink has been done some years before. But this MLU is a major one that has been planned for at least a decade, according to the most reliable leakers.

So, it is suggested that the PLAN wasnt too happy with the Sovs. Which is also why they never took part in the counter-piracy patrols off Aden.

[mikmykWS]

My guess is it won't happen although they can operate together just fine.

Mike

[Dysta]

Comic C919 has been officially revealed:





It is also not found in DB3000. I suggest we should add one, either prior to the first flight debut, or in actual service. Details below:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_C919

[Dysta]

More recent pictures of Tu-95MS with 8 Kh-101 sortie:

[Hongjian]

ORIGINAL: Dysta

Comic C919 has been officially revealed:

It is also not found in DB3000. I suggest we should add one, either prior to the first flight debut, or in actual service. Details below:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_C919

I would rather want a notional C919-based AWACS powered by the CJ-1000A (since the Leap-1X would probably be off-limits for a military plane). But this remains to be seen.

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

I would rather want a notional C919-based AWACS powered by the CJ-1000A (since the Leap-1X would probably be off-limits for a military plane). But this remains to be seen.

Good for range, not good for maintenance. CJ-1000A is aimed for civilian market, military applications will be unlikely because it isn't for rougher runway environment.

Not to forget Y-20 can also be converted to AWACS as well. If still insisted, an ASW version C919 installed with WS-20 engines is more likely than AWAC packages.

[Glenn Beasley]

http://worldwarwings.com/the-f-35-just- ... f35-canada, Interesting.

[Hongjian]

ORIGINAL: Dysta

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

I would rather want a notional C919-based AWACS powered by the CJ-1000A (since the Leap-1X would probably be off-limits for a military plane). But this remains to be seen.

Good for range, not good for maintenance. CJ-1000A is aimed for civilian market, military applications will be unlikely because it isn't for rougher runway environment.

Not to forget Y-20 can also be converted to AWACS as well. If still insisted, an ASW version C919 installed with WS-20 engines is more likely than AWAC packages.

Narrow-body planes are better suited for AWACS due to being more fuel efficient since less drag than converted military transports.

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

ORIGINAL: Dysta

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

I would rather want a notional C919-based AWACS powered by the CJ-1000A (since the Leap-1X would probably be off-limits for a military plane). But this remains to be seen.

Good for range, not good for maintenance. CJ-1000A is aimed for civilian market, military applications will be unlikely because it isn't for rougher runway environment.

Not to forget Y-20 can also be converted to AWACS as well. If still insisted, an ASW version C919 installed with WS-20 engines is more likely than AWAC packages.

Narrow-body planes are better suited for AWACS due to being more fuel efficient since less drag than converted military transports.

I rather think the opposite though. See how E-3 and E-767 offer superior endurances as well, they are also bigger than A320, B737, and C919. The older B707 and B767 are still have their viable purposes for military surveillance.

5500KM range is better than KJ-500, but still unacceptably short. Adding extra fuel tanks will be limited to the narrow-body, and hardly to take off from short runway. Y-20 or the future Y-30 would be a very capable STOL transports to be candidate for AWAC as I see it.

[Dysta]

Agreement brokes as the meeting is cancelled, SCS is about to catch on fire.


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/no-signing-jo ... 43519.html

[Hongjian]

ORIGINAL: Dysta

Agreement brokes as the meeting is cancelled, SCS is about to catch on fire.


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/no-signing-jo ... 43519.html

Except this means the exact opposite. No joint declaration against China = Status Quo remains.

The joint declaration was designed by the US to shame China into the corner and criminalize China's claim over 80% of the SCS - and only China's claim alone, not the similiarily sized and equally excessive claims of the other claimants.

Now, with no joint declaration, everything goes back to business as usual, which means the dispute involving all parties including China continues to persist. So, at most, we will see some fishermen getting shot and coast guard ships ramming each other, but at least no South China Sea war where the US supports and joins the other claimants to forcibly evict China's island holdings in order to realize the de-jure criminalization of China's claims.

/politics


Other news:

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... t-carrier/

Chinese Submarine Stalked U.S. Aircraft Carrier
Attack submarine sailed near USS Reagan south of Japan

Funnily, this one is exactly to the day 9 Years after the USS Kitty Hawk incident involving a Chinese Song-class SSK.

[Broncepulido]

Presence of J-11BH (land-based naval variant of J-11B) of the 25th Naval Aviation Regiment confirmed in this site, 31 october 2015 news (I found this Chinese site some years ago, but forget about it), and the site says "Don't get too excited though -- the 25th has done this sort of things since the mid 2000s with their older J-8IIs" :
http://china-defense.com/

YongXing Island is the same Woody Island:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woody_Isl ... China_Sea)

[xavierv]

Oto Melara, Bofors and BAE Systems Inc all in Technical Talks with DCNS Regarding FTI Frigates

While attending various defense exhibitions this Fall, it was brought to Navy Recognition's attention that the leading naval gun manufacturers all have started technical talks with DCNS on the future FTI frigates. The FTI will be a 4,000 tons class multi-role frigate developed from the design stage to answer French Navy needs as well as export customer requirements. According to DCNS, the FTI will benefit from the most advanced technology solutions, including planar array radar.

Read http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=3226

[Dysta]

Nicaragua drama, AKA environmental debate of canal project, has been marked a tick and proceed as planned:

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2 ... canal.html

CMANO map should be updated when it's open in 2019.

[Hongjian]

J-16 with PL-10, KD-88 and targeting pod, which looks like A-Star's STS-56.

[Hongjian]

http://www.network54.com/Forum/211833/t ... d+II+Laser

Low Altitude Guard II Laser Weapon - the successor of that quad-copter buster from last year's Zhuhai Airshow.

Too bad they dont talk about the power. The LAG-I had 10kw. And the LAG-II is suppossed to be more powerful.

http://www.popsci.com/china-joins-laser-arms-race

[Hongjian]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015- ... 795247.htm

Yaogan-28 launched. Nothing said about the sensor payload. Too bad Wikipedia stopped updating since YG-27.

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

http://www.network54.com/Forum/211833/t ... d+II+Laser

Low Altitude Guard II Laser Weapon - the successor of that quad-copter buster from last year's Zhuhai Airshow.

Too bad they dont talk about the power. The LAG-I had 10kw. And the LAG-II is suppossed to be more powerful.

http://www.popsci.com/china-joins-laser-arms-race

More importantly, it's vehicle-mounted instead of stationary. However, I'm still pretty certain it would be a huge machine for a mobile drone killer:

[AlmightyTallest]

Rheinmetall Air Defence - Oerlikon Skyshield High Energy Laser (HEL) Demonstration

Adaptation of the earlier gun mounted Skyshield.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fefSQZVGD1g&index=55&list=FLUbMa9kEYoLP3_Zlc2nzVPA