Very Disappointed

[Jagdtiger14]

If that is possible for Brazil to do in HOI, then I'm glad I never bought that game.

[aaatoysandmore]

Well, that was HOI I, I don't know if they could do it in HOI II or III cause I never bought them and played them. Well, I take that back I bought them for like $3.99 but I never played them.

To me the HOI's have always been "Making History" in pauseable real time. They both have wonky outcomes compared to what is written in books and video's of the history of WWII.

[demyansk]

I have changed my gaming experience over the last 35 years. I used to like the long drawn out games but now into fps and cool graphics. I am not a fan of rts but playing Euro escalation. I like decisive blue and I guess change is good to. I have all the grand start games as well.

[rhondabrwn]

Is there a "Brazil in Flames" expansion for World in Flames?

[aaatoysandmore]

ORIGINAL: demjansk

I have changed my gaming experience over the last 35 years. I used to like the long drawn out games but now into fps and cool graphics. I am not a fan of rts but playing Euro escalation. I like decisive blue and I guess change is good to. I have all the grand start games as well.

If you like FPS now and wargames check out Mount & Blade Warband. It's the most awesome FPS wargame I ever played and I don't even like FPS. This one is so different an unique as you can tell your men what to do and form battle lines. At first I was just charging and letting my ai men do most of the work but later I started to enjoy chopping heads off and making those perfectly timed swings of my 2hd axe off horseback.

Wonderful experience. Especially for someone who hates RTS and FPS mostly. There's a few of each I'll stomach but very rarely. If it's not turn based it's just not strategy to me mostly. To me strategy is thinking and taking a long time to think if I want like the old AH boardgames and early chess. Then of course they came along with speed chess and ruined just about all turn based gaming.

Thank the gods for Matrixgames and Slitherine. They just don't come out with the good ones fast enough. [:D] (Btw how's that Panzer Command (western front) game coming? [:'(]

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn

Is there a "Brazil in Flames" expansion for World in Flames?

warspite1

Rhonda there is no 'Brazil in Flames' as such. But all of South and Central America is included in the game and all (most?) South and Central American countries have units - quite a few in the case of the 'ABC' powers - Argentina, Brazil and Chile plus Mexico.

[aaatoysandmore]

Those look like just the starting units in the HOI game but then I could add a whole lot more to that as the game progressed. I had a navy and transports and a few planes. Marched over to the boot of Italy and as the Americans were going up it so did my Brazilians and on into Berlin. [:D]

After Berlin they marched on into Moscow and liberated it as the game didn't end just because I took Berlin. It was mostly over anyways once we took Italy out.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: aaatoysandmore

Those look like just the starting units in the HOI game but then I could add a whole lot more to that as the game progressed. I had a navy and transports and a few planes. Marched over to the boot of Italy and as the Americans were going up it so did my Brazilians and on into Berlin. [:D]

After Berlin they marched on into Moscow and liberated it as the game didn't end just because I took Berlin. It was mostly over anyways once we took Italy out.

warspite1

That's the Argentine starting forces.

Anyway. The Brazilians, like the Argentinians, and like almost all powers and for obvious reasons, do not start with all their units.

Here is the Brazilian force pool - with planes, convoy points, its army and navy.

[freeboy]

My dissppointmetn was everything to do with the release of a game and then, "well multi player is not up yet" its a complex and deep game and honestly the guys decided to make the computer game complex instead of capturing the essence of the initial game and making some extranious parts abstractions... I understand but it does lend the game to much more difficult learning curve, I played a few hours, then decided to wait for MP, then just gave up and moved on... wasted 100 or so.. ouch

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: freeboy

My dissppointmetn was everything to do with the release of a game and then, "well multi player is not up yet" its a complex and deep game and honestly the guys decided to make the computer game complex instead of capturing the essence of the initial game and making some extranious parts abstractions... I understand but it does lend the game to much more difficult learning curve, I played a few hours, then decided to wait for MP, then just gave up and moved on... wasted 100 or so.. ouch

warspite1

'They' did not decide to make the game 'complex'. The game is complex. Matrix/Steve/ADG agreed that the game would be made as per the board game - that was the deal; a faithful reproduction of the board game and thus as close as they could make it to the board game experience.

No idea of the numbers of course, but no doubt for everyone that wanted WIF Lite, there were those that wanted a board game re-make; I am certainly in that latter camp and would have been less than happy with some watered down variant.

Sorry you wasted all that cash, but as I said, you are not the first and sure won't be the last to misjudge a computer game!

[bairdlander2]

ORIGINAL: aaatoysandmore

Those look like just the starting units in the HOI game but then I could add a whole lot more to that as the game progressed. I had a navy and transports and a few planes. Marched over to the boot of Italy and as the Americans were going up it so did my Brazilians and on into Berlin. [:D]

After Berlin they marched on into Moscow and liberated it as the game didn't end just because I took Berlin. It was mostly over anyways once we took Italy out.

Ya right....anyone who has played HOI knows this is a total fabrication.[8|][8|]

[aaatoysandmore]

ORIGINAL: bairdlander

ORIGINAL: aaatoysandmore

Those look like just the starting units in the HOI game but then I could add a whole lot more to that as the game progressed. I had a navy and transports and a few planes. Marched over to the boot of Italy and as the Americans were going up it so did my Brazilians and on into Berlin. [:D]

After Berlin they marched on into Moscow and liberated it as the game didn't end just because I took Berlin. It was mostly over anyways once we took Italy out.

Ya right....anyone who has played HOI knows this is a total fabrication.[8|][8|]

Apparently you haven't played HOI I then. Buddy (insert) [:D]

Plus, I'm obviously a BETTER player than you. [:'(]

[bairdlander2]

Please tell me how Brazil achieved a casus belli against Germany?

[Zap]

ORIGINAL: bairdlander

Please tell me how Brazil achieved a casus belli against Germany?

I read (in his statement)that Brazil did it in conjunction with the Americans. Never played the game but Brazil doing what he said by itself would be unbelievable

[rhondabrwn]

If I recall the game, Brazil was suggested as a good "starter" Country to learn the game, so there were some credible possibilities.

[loki100]

ORIGINAL: Zap

ORIGINAL: bairdlander

Please tell me how Brazil achieved a casus belli against Germany?

I read (in his statement)that Brazil did it in conjunction with the Americans. Never played the game but Brazil doing what he said by itself would be unbelievable

not in the fantasy land of HOI 3 it isn't. There was one AAR with a world conquest by Albania. Like all Paradox games, its fun till you get bored of the ahistoric nonsense and realise you are effectively playing a space or fantasy 4x style game.